merchant wrote: ↑Fri May 08, 2020 7:24 am
Hey everyone, I got my system last year, picked it up in person. Just wanted to say thanks to everyone here for this thread, which was inspiring to me as I waited.
One of my favourite things to do is play with the delay in the freq shifter's insert point. Will take a long time for me to get bored of playing with it. Am trying different delays on it (Boss DD7, RSD10, RPD10, DOD DFX94, H8000, etc.) Anyone got good combos?
The TwinPeak panel's random pinging (maybe the Hordijk "hello world"?) is always such a beautiful sound too.
Only recently discovered the env follower is normalled to the shaper, giving you a lot of extra gain, you can get some really nice distortion this way. There are a lot of colours to find in the various shaper settings and playing with the input gain and input signal.
Simple percussion patch, but had to retype the description as I kept forgetting things I'd done in this patch...surprisingly complex.
Hordijk System percussion Triple LFO with cross modulation resulting in polyrhythms, to Dual Env gate input, CVing the VCA with a sine wave from Harm Osc, into 24db Filter, bandpass out into envelope follower and shaper, distorted, sent to Phasor and Freq Shifter, and FS insert point into Boss DD7 delay. Plenty of CV added.
Tiny clip from about an hour of recording with loads of different sounds...
Listening back over the clip it just sounds really simple, and you could probably get a similar sound in many other ways. But what's brilliant about the Hordijk system is you have control at so many points, and the control you have almost always sounds really good. The envelopes are excellent and are fully CV'd. The Phasor and FreqShifter have many many different colours in there and also take 1v/oct CV. It's really another voice. I could go on.
Glad you love your system and that the thread has been useful.
I use the DD7 delay, simple but efficient. Also a Strymon BlueSky reverb with the system. Nothing more.
EnvF is normalized to Shaper, Phaser and FrqShifter. The Shaper is indeed very cool.
I would also like to see a pic of that patch. Very nice patch.
merchant wrote: ↑Sat May 09, 2020 2:10 am
Cheers all, didn’t realise the other normallings from the follower. I didn’t think I documented the patch but I kind of did...see below.
It seems quite easy to create rich, complex patches on the Hordijk with relatively few cables.
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Great. Thanks a lot.
The normalizations are after the preamp of the EnvF not the CV out, just to be clear.
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jmelland wrote: ↑Fri May 08, 2020 10:00 am
Sounds great! Glad to see you uncovering some of the great corners in the system. It's one of the 2 finest modular systems around. Cheers!
Just of of curiosity, what is the second finest one? I hope it is in 2d place as well Hordijk's the best
jmelland wrote: ↑Fri May 08, 2020 10:00 am
Sounds great! Glad to see you uncovering some of the great corners in the system. It's one of the 2 finest modular systems around. Cheers!
Just of of curiosity, what is the second finest one? I hope it is in 2d place as well Hordijk's the best
haha! Well, I'm a gigantic Buchla lover. After all my time with synthesis, these two systems are the only things I can recommend. I don't have enough room in my heart for Serge (two is enough for me!), but I love the sounds there too. But, I can't steer people away from euro hard enough. It's just so cheap and mostly digital, and well.. basically crap. I've had 25k worth of euro and sold every single piece and am so happy to be rid of it. the funny thing is, you notice that the biggest of players like Malekko, and Verbos are basically Buchla builders that started selling modules and basing most of their stuff of Buchla designs.... anyway that's a point that can be argued, but my point is valid... I don't want to get off topic, the moral of the story here is that the Hordijk system is of the finest electronic instruments a person can buy.
jmelland wrote: ↑Fri May 08, 2020 10:00 am
Sounds great! Glad to see you uncovering some of the great corners in the system. It's one of the 2 finest modular systems around. Cheers!
Just of of curiosity, what is the second finest one? I hope it is in 2d place as well Hordijk's the best
haha! Well, I'm a gigantic Buchla lover. After all my time with synthesis, these two systems are the only things I can recommend. I don't have enough room in my heart for Serge (two is enough for me!), but I love the sounds there too. But, I can't steer people away from euro hard enough. It's just so cheap and mostly digital, and well.. basically crap. I've had 25k worth of euro and sold every single piece and am so happy to be rid of it. the funny thing is, you notice that the biggest of players like Malekko, and Verbos are basically Buchla builders that started selling modules and basing most of their stuff of Buchla designs.... anyway that's a point that can be argued, but my point is valid... I don't want to get off topic, the moral of the story here is that the Hordijk system is of the finest electronic instruments a person can buy.
Okay. I would rather be a Serge fan but the Buchla is great too. I used to have an Easel. The interface and possibilities were huge but my heart was too attached to the Hordijk that I sold it.
That's great. I do love serge, but I have my hands full! I also play bass sax and contrabass clarinet, piano, and Guitarviol... not to mention I also use the Macbeth Elements, Monopoly, Waldorf Quantum, Therevox and TVS Pro in scores as well (and orchestra too!)... I don't need every kind of system...
BUT! The bottom line is, you know what you love and you got it for your own music. That's the best thing you can do. Cheers!
jmelland wrote: ↑Fri May 08, 2020 10:00 am
Sounds great! Glad to see you uncovering some of the great corners in the system. It's one of the 2 finest modular systems around. Cheers!
Okay. I would rather be a Serge fan but the Buchla is great too. I used to have an Easel. The interface and possibilities were huge but my heart was too attached to the Hordijk that I sold it.
im curious - the benjolin and rungler are rad designs...i heard something severance (a member here did with 2 benjolins and feedback - an ambient piece - just absolute perfection - but that was not a ful hordjik system.
would love to know if anyone can point to any musicians that show off the hordjik system's capabiliities?
To say that math is important because it is useful is like saying that children are important because we can train them to do spiritually meaningless labor in order to increase corporate profits. Or is that in fact what we are saying?
-Paul Lockhart
jmelland wrote: ↑Thu May 14, 2020 5:38 pm
That's great. I do love serge, but I have my hands full! I also play bass sax and contrabass clarinet, piano, and Guitarviol... not to mention I also use the Macbeth Elements, Monopoly, Waldorf Quantum, Therevox and TVS Pro in scores as well (and orchestra too!)... I don't need every kind of system...
BUT! The bottom line is, you know what you love and you got it for your own music. That's the best thing you can do. Cheers!
Yes I saw pics of your studio. Love it BTW.
Exactly, as long as everyone is happy with what he's doing with his gear the rest doesn't matter.
wuff_miggler wrote: ↑Thu May 14, 2020 7:07 pm
im curious - the benjolin and rungler are rad designs...i heard something severance (a member here did with 2 benjolins and feedback - an ambient piece - just absolute perfection - but that was not a ful hordjik system.
would love to know if anyone can point to any musicians that show off the hordjik system's capabiliities?
Check Todd Barton's Youtube channel. Not just Hordijk but you will learn lots of stuff. And Todd is a great guy
Also check Richard Scott's Youtube(s). I believe he has 2 accounts. You'll find extreme use of the Hordijk. I wish I could patch the system like him. Excellent musician. Does he teach to standard people?
AlHill70 on Instagram has a nice collection of Hordijk Patches too.
tanks Neovintage!
this is pretty fucking rock and roll:
To say that math is important because it is useful is like saying that children are important because we can train them to do spiritually meaningless labor in order to increase corporate profits. Or is that in fact what we are saying?
-Paul Lockhart
Dumb question: I just sold my old Rungler/Dual Fader etc. panel. I'm getting an updated panel from Rob. Do I send the power cables with the old panel or keep them to use with the new one? Caught between eurorack and dotcom logic here... I'd assume that I send them, but...
Also, the connectors are really difficult to remove. Any tricks?
ba1 wrote: ↑Tue May 26, 2020 6:10 pm
Dumb question: I just sold my old Rungler/Dual Fader etc. panel. I'm getting an updated panel from Rob. Do I send the power cables with the old panel or keep them to use with the new one? Caught between eurorack and dotcom logic here... I'd assume that I send them, but...
Also, the connectors are really difficult to remove. Any tricks?
You send the power cable- Rob will send you a new one with your new panel.
Connection to power should be MOTM style header unless he’s changed things... there is a little lip/lock at the bottom.
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"If you want to find the secrets of the universe, think in terms of energy, frequency, and vibration." - Tesla
BTByrd wrote:Know what's annoying? Making all your products bright fucking yellow and bespangling them with nutsacks. But I digress...
I predict that someday I'm gonna buy Richard a beer. And when it happens I'm gonna come to page 99 of this thread and prove that I'm psychic.
experumental musicians are some of the best at making faces.
What sucks half the time is when they think what they're doing is wierder than it is - when the faces dont match the wierdness of sounds...its just awkward. Richard doesnt fall into this camp
To say that math is important because it is useful is like saying that children are important because we can train them to do spiritually meaningless labor in order to increase corporate profits. Or is that in fact what we are saying?
-Paul Lockhart
olesandström wrote: ↑Sat Jul 11, 2020 6:24 am
Quick question: are Hordijk modules and Eurorack compatible CV-wise or is there a danger of damaging either system when interconnecting?
yes, rob actually has a case that has a bottom row of eurorack built in.
Hordijk's the best
