A whole load of awesome coming my way

brickman · Post by **brickman** » Mon Apr 18, 2011 5:04 am

I just wanted to share with u guys , after 2 years of drooling over a Modcan B system , its finally ordered , now I just have to wait until June(ish) sometime for it to arrive . I am so excited

Not a huge system but enough to get me started :

01B VCO
58B VCDO
40B Dual Multimode
60B Quad Env
61B Quad LFO
13B Dual VCA
27B Dual Mixer
49B Atten

7thDanSound · Post by **7thDanSound** » Mon Apr 18, 2011 5:27 am

Congrats! I'm in the same boat as you, ordered, paid and waiting! And I've got a quite similar setup coming. Man these are good times to be a modular buff!

haricots · Post by **haricots** » Mon Apr 18, 2011 7:51 am

nlaudadio · Post by **nlaudadio** » Mon Apr 18, 2011 9:20 am

7thDanSound wrote:Man these are good times to be a modular buff!

That's certainly the truth.

AnalogAssailant · Post by **AnalogAssailant** » Mon Apr 18, 2011 11:29 am

Very nice.

You'll be glad you got the quad lfo/env, lots of power crammed in those two.

rezzn8r · Post by **rezzn8r** » Mon Apr 18, 2011 11:41 am

congrats!!!

dude · Post by **dude** » Mon Apr 18, 2011 12:26 pm

congrats!

Scooter McCrae · Post by **Scooter McCrae** » Mon Apr 18, 2011 12:42 pm

Agreed; that is an excellent starter system with lots of horsepower per square inch. A great choice getting an analog and a digital oscillator as well -- that's how I started my Modcan system and have never looked back.

Welcome to the coolest club in the world!

Scooter McCrae

brickman · Post by **brickman** » Mon Apr 18, 2011 1:08 pm

Im wondering just how much ground I'll be to cover with just the 2 oscillators . Can the Quad go into audio range ?

What are u guys using as a midi-cv converter ?

dude · Post by **dude** » Mon Apr 18, 2011 1:12 pm

both the quad env and quad lfo can go into audio ranges. they are difficult to coax into proper tracking behavior though. i don't mess with midi much but i use an external box, that moog mp201 pedal. i use that box much more for aux tap tempo lfos though. i wonder if you have thought about the new 3vco as opposed to the 01 osc? its heart is filled with beef and many mystical powers are contained there as well. if you are bored some day, check out youtube for videos/demos of these. you can see my channel in my sig. it is almost completely dedicated to modcan. and of course lots of other folks here also have videos of modcan!

dude · Post by **dude** » Mon Apr 18, 2011 2:23 pm

i should mention that while the quad digi modulator modules definitely get into audio territory, they have a frequency ceiling at mid audio rates. they can be cool as fm sources or for droney things but you'll want either dedicated vcos or filters (sine osc) in order to get tracking and sonic range/flexibility.

brickman · Post by **brickman** » Mon Apr 18, 2011 2:32 pm

Hey dude , I did have the 3vco down instead of the VCDO then thought I get a wider range of tone with a digital + analogue osc , but its on the next batch along with the digital delay & phase module , but thats gonna take a while . The 3vco meandering demo shows of its tone really well . Love the pitch bend down , deeeeeeelicious .

dude · Post by **dude** » Mon Apr 18, 2011 2:40 pm

honestly, the 3vco has more in common with the 01 osc than the vcdo. if you are looking for a wider range of tone than 3vco/miniwave/ dual vdo and vcdo are your go to guys.

in terms of the next batch, consider the dual frequency shifter as well possibly in place of the phaser/timbre. The dual FS has been knocking my socks off. way more fun than phaser/timbre imo, but then i LOVE bruces digi stuff and a lot of folks like to stick to analog.

voicetospirit · Post by **voicetospirit** » Mon Apr 18, 2011 3:51 pm

Sweet dude, you will love it!

brickman · Post by **brickman** » Mon Apr 18, 2011 3:59 pm

dude wrote:honestly, the 3vco has more in common with the 01 osc than the vcdo. if you are looking for a wider range of tone than 3vco/miniwave/ dual vdo and vcdo are your go to guys.

in terms of the next batch, consider the dual frequency shifter as well possibly in place of the phaser/timbre. The dual FS has been knocking my socks off. way more fun than phaser/timbre imo, but then i LOVE bruces digi stuff and a lot of folks like to stick to analog.

I went for the 01B because I want a really good simple pure tone , the 3vco is definitely on the list though , sounds great from your demos .
Re. Dual FS , I prefer the tone of the analogue version , but who knows , if funds allow I'd get both

The phaser is a must , the sound of it blows my head off every time I listen to it . Cant stop my mouth from making the waaaaaaaaauuuuuuuuuhhhhhhhh sound , its embarrassing

Along with the Mode Machines KPR-1 , its the sweetest sounding phaser I've heard online .

7thDanSound · Post by **7thDanSound** » Mon Apr 18, 2011 4:19 pm

Tell me if I should start my own anticipation thread but this is what I'm getting:

22B MiniWave - Because I-must-have-8-bit! Also, it does distortion, sequencing, quantizing, weird LFO'ing and what not

31B 4VCA - Useful, versatile, mixing, VCA, CV and audio. What else to say?
40B Dual Multimode - Need some kind of filter and thought this might be most useful in a small system
60B 4EG - Useful, versatile, low audio, FM duties, cool modes that sort of thing
61B 4LFO - fucking blows my mind. That is all.
66B Control - oh yeah! Wanted to try Bruces digital CV generating stuff and this is a unique thing I can imagine a million things to do with.
70B 3VCO - I just can't leave good enough alone.

All in all, I think I have a very powerful system coming my way soon (we both seem to have) and I really can't wait!

sandyb · Post by **sandyb** » Mon Apr 18, 2011 4:23 pm

brickman wrote:Im wondering just how much ground I'll be to cover with just the 2 oscillators . Can the Quad go into audio range ?

What are u guys using as a midi-cv converter ?

i've got 3 rows of modcan and only two dedicated oscillators - 2 vcdo.
those alone would keep me happy but i've also got the quad lfo and dual lfo for other audio rate stuff if i need it.

congratulations on your purchase - you'll enjoy it lots!

brickman · Post by **brickman** » Mon Apr 18, 2011 4:34 pm

Looks pretty similar 7thDan , man its exciting ! That 3VCO....

Love the support on Muff

rezzn8r · Post by **rezzn8r** » Mon Apr 18, 2011 4:37 pm

brickman wrote: Not a huge system but enough to get me started :

01B VCO
58B VCDO
40B Dual Multimode
60B Quad Env
61B Quad LFO
13B Dual VCA
27B Dual Mixer
49B Atten

just in case you were open to suggestions on this order

(sounds like it's not too late to make changes with Bruce

but ask dude 8_) ) I present the following;

01B VCO
58B VCDO
40B Dual Multimode
60B Quad Env
61B Quad LFO
31B 4VCA instead of 13B Dual VCA
09B 3x1 Mixer instead of 27B Dual Mixer
49B Atten

The 4VCA fits really well with the Quad EG and LFO. It also works as a 4x1 Mixer. This is part of the reason I suggest a 3x1 Mixer to replace the Dual Mixer. Other pluses for the 3x1 are the clip LED, and the inverted out. The only cool thing you loose from the Dual Mixer is the Offset Voltage on the CV side, but if a 66B Control was in your future...
Do you have something specific in mind for the 49B? The Quad LFO has a level control for the outputs, and the 40B has bipolar attenuated inputs. If you're thinking of attenuating FM inputs on the VCOs, then I might suggest patching an EG/VCA combo instead, as it produces much better results (IMHO). Perhaps a 48B Mult instead of the 49B Attn? Do you currently plan to use Y-cables to send signals to multiple destinations?

Just some friendly suggestions

rezzn8r · Post by **rezzn8r** » Mon Apr 18, 2011 4:43 pm

7thDanSound wrote:Tell me if I should start my own anticipation thread but this is what I'm getting:

22B MiniWave - Because I-must-have-8-bit! Also, it does distortion, sequencing, quantizing, weird LFO'ing and what not
31B 4VCA - Useful, versatile, mixing, VCA, CV and audio. What else to say?
40B Dual Multimode - Need some kind of filter and thought this might be most useful in a small system
60B 4EG - Useful, versatile, low audio, FM duties, cool modes that sort of thing
61B 4LFO - fucking blows my mind. That is all.
66B Control - oh yeah! Wanted to try Bruces digital CV generating stuff and this is a unique thing I can imagine a million things to do with.
70B 3VCO - I just can't leave good enough alone.

All in all, I think I have a very powerful system coming my way soon (we both seem to have) and I really can't wait!

w00t!!! party-time!!!

I can say the 22, 31, 40, 60 & 61 are all great modules. I don't have a 66 or a 70, but they look and sound pretty sweet :booty:

7thDanSound · Post by **7thDanSound** » Mon Apr 18, 2011 5:34 pm

Thanks Rezz

brickman · Post by **brickman** » Mon Apr 18, 2011 5:39 pm

rezzn8r wrote:
brickman wrote: Not a huge system but enough to get me started :

01B VCO
58B VCDO
40B Dual Multimode
60B Quad Env
61B Quad LFO
13B Dual VCA
27B Dual Mixer
49B Atten

just in case you were open to suggestions on this order (sounds like it's not too late to make changes with Bruce but ask dude 8_) ) I present the following;

01B VCO
58B VCDO
40B Dual Multimode
60B Quad Env
61B Quad LFO
31B 4VCA instead of 13B Dual VCA
09B 3x1 Mixer instead of 27B Dual Mixer
49B Atten

The 4VCA fits really well with the Quad EG and LFO. It also works as a 4x1 Mixer. This is part of the reason I suggest a 3x1 Mixer to replace the Dual Mixer. Other pluses for the 3x1 are the clip LED, and the inverted out. The only cool thing you loose from the Dual Mixer is the Offset Voltage on the CV side, but if a 66B Control was in your future...
Do you have something specific in mind for the 49B? The Quad LFO has a level control for the outputs, and the 40B has bipolar attenuated inputs. If you're thinking of attenuating FM inputs on the VCOs, then I might suggest patching an EG/VCA combo instead, as it produces much better results (IMHO). Perhaps a 48B Mult instead of the 49B Attn? Do you currently plan to use Y-cables to send signals to multiple destinations?

Just some friendly suggestions

I already changed the dual VCA this morning ! Mmm , I'd forgotten about a mult , for no logical reason I'd rather use that than go with the Y-cables .
I kinda picked the 49B to give me more flexibility with gain staging , I guess its probably redundant given the fact I already have a Quad VCA . I'll see if I can change that tomorrow , appreciate the heads up rezzn8r

dude · Post by **dude** » Mon Apr 18, 2011 7:31 pm

an external mult and/or attenuator panel would likely end in better use of modcan real estate and save a ton of cash. those are both dead simple and passive.

7thDanSound · Post by **7thDanSound** » Mon Apr 18, 2011 11:15 pm

I'm a little curious about the mult workings of the Modcan since I sometimes ran into trouble with the .com. It seemed it would have needed buffered mults. Here's hoping the Modcan don't

dude · Post by **dude** » Tue Apr 19, 2011 2:09 am

i have never needed buff'd mults with my system if that makes you feel any better but it is hard to say. i know the modcan one is passive so...tell me patch that you fear needing a buff mult for...i will patch it and report back, or even snag video of it.

i think it is less of a question of how the mult works and more of a question of the input impedance of the powered modules (which seem to work as desired across the board)? amirite? i actually don't know shit about this stuff though.

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