More music with the Grove Audio PMR and the Q150

spinach_pizza · Post by **spinach_pizza** » Mon Mar 14, 2011 9:14 pm

Here is another piece exclusively using the Grove Audio PM Resonator and the Dotcom Q150. I really like using these two filters in tandem.

http://soundcloud.com/spinach-pizza/alm ... er-orlande

bwhittington · Post by **bwhittington** » Mon Mar 14, 2011 9:21 pm

This stuff is tops. Great work!

JohnLRice · Post by **JohnLRice** » Mon Mar 14, 2011 9:41 pm

Say, what reverb are you using? DotCom spring or one or more different plug-ins or?

monofon · Post by **monofon** » Tue Mar 15, 2011 3:11 am

Like Nesciens mater virgo virum before this one is another completly outstanding performace! My deepest respect!

doctorvague · Post by **doctorvague** » Tue Mar 15, 2011 8:28 am

Most Excellent!

How many overdub passes did this take?

RichardC · Post by **RichardC** » Tue Mar 15, 2011 1:52 pm

Very fine work!

spinach_pizza · Post by **spinach_pizza** » Tue Mar 15, 2011 2:21 pm

Thanks, guys, for listening!

John, no I don't have the dotcom reverb. I use plugins for reverb, ever since my MX400 died (and I've never bothered to get it fixed). I use the plugins that came with Sonar, plus I really like Reaktor Spacemaster!

Doctorvague, the piece was written for 8 separate vocal parts, and how many times each was overdubbed varied depending on the particular phrase and my "orchestration" of that phrase. Each "voice" is variously represented at any given time from one recording to three sometimes four recordings. Each recording captured two or three oscillators in tandem.

kindredlost · Post by **kindredlost** » Tue Mar 15, 2011 3:42 pm

I can't imagine the work this took. Truly skilled sound design Richard. I'm amazed at the blend considering the amount of voices.

How do you decide the shape of the PMR filter for each timbre? Is it predetermined or do you just tweak until it shapes what you're after?

spinach_pizza · Post by **spinach_pizza** » Tue Mar 15, 2011 11:21 pm

kindredlost wrote:I can't imagine the work this took. Truly skilled sound design Richard. I'm amazed at the blend considering the amount of voices.

How do you decide the shape of the PMR filter for each timbre? Is it predetermined or do you just tweak until it shapes what you're after?

Hi David, thank you.

I don't predetermine much with the PMR, I decide by ear when I tweak. Actually for this piece, I pretty much ignored the lowest band, and I'd say that at least 80% of my adjustments were frequency and gain for the two higher bands. I used it in bandpass, both normal and extended ranges.

Scot Solida · Post by **Scot Solida** » Wed Mar 16, 2011 9:21 am

Wow. Just... wow.

Jason Brock · Post by **Jason Brock** » Wed Mar 16, 2011 5:03 pm

Amazing.

Christopher W. · Post by **Christopher W.** » Wed Mar 16, 2011 5:55 pm

The rest of us will really have to raise our game if you keep posting tracks of this calibre.

Bob Borries · Post by **Bob Borries** » Fri Mar 18, 2011 2:31 pm

WOW this is Carlos Quality, what a ringing endorsement for the PMR. Still patiently waiting for mine.

spinach_pizza · Post by **spinach_pizza** » Fri Mar 18, 2011 6:43 pm

Bob Borries wrote:. . . the PMR. Still patiently waiting for mine.

Thanks!

Still patiently waiting for John Burdick to return my emails.

spinach_pizza · Post by **spinach_pizza** » Sat Mar 19, 2011 10:30 am

spinach_pizza wrote:
Bob Borries wrote:. . . the PMR. Still patiently waiting for mine.
Thanks!

Still patiently waiting for John Burdick to return my emails.

John Burdick is a great guy to deal with, and I feel bad that I complained here when he is swamped with stuff to deal with.

Grove Audio modules are top notch in build quality and in function!

relaxing · Post by **relaxing** » Sun Mar 20, 2011 12:53 pm

spinach_pizza wrote:Each "voice" is variously represented at any given time from one recording to three sometimes four recordings. Each recording captured two or three oscillators in tandem.

When you say each voice is 1-4 overdubs, is because each was played with a different timbre/patch to build up the end sound? Meaning if you had 4x the modules, you could have played the voice in one pass?
Or was it more simply to get a thicker or chorus-y effect due to micro timing variations?

I hope I made that clear enough, I realize it's sort of a subtle distinction...

spinach_pizza · Post by **spinach_pizza** » Sun Mar 20, 2011 1:57 pm

relaxing wrote:
spinach_pizza wrote:Each "voice" is variously represented at any given time from one recording to three sometimes four recordings. Each recording captured two or three oscillators in tandem.
When you say each voice is 1-4 overdubs, is because each was played with a different timbre/patch to build up the end sound? Meaning if you had 4x the modules, you could have played the voice in one pass?
Or was it more simply to get a thicker or chorus-y effect due to micro timing variations?

I hope I made that clear enough, I realize it's sort of a subtle distinction...

Hi, I think I understand your question. One of my goals with my recordings to sound like an ensemble of a bunch of instruments or sounds all being played together. This is true for each track I've put on Soundcloud, whether "synth" sounding or not.

So to achieve that feel, I prefer to record each overdub separately, with differences (often subtle) in timing and other settings as well. For a given part of the music, the patches are usually the same or very similar, but with the parameters altered slightly or manipulated a little bit differently each time it's played. If I did have 4x the number of modules I wouldn't want to record them all in one pass, because I don't think that I would be able to adequately control the expression of each individual voice.

It's very time consuming, but I think it's worth it.

dude · Post by **dude** » Mon Mar 21, 2011 12:13 am

man, i have literally never listened to three whole pieces in a row on soundcloud let alone all by one artist. i am hereby voting for you to be king of the galaxy. if EVER you release this material or anything in an album please let us know so we can buy it!!!!

here is a pic of js bach

relaxing · Post by **relaxing** » Mon Mar 21, 2011 9:03 am

spinach_pizza wrote:
relaxing wrote:
spinach_pizza wrote:Each "voice" is variously represented at any given time from one recording to three sometimes four recordings. Each recording captured two or three oscillators in tandem.
When you say each voice is 1-4 overdubs, is because each was played with a different timbre/patch to build up the end sound? Meaning if you had 4x the modules, you could have played the voice in one pass?
Or was it more simply to get a thicker or chorus-y effect due to micro timing variations?

I hope I made that clear enough, I realize it's sort of a subtle distinction...
Hi, I think I understand your question. One of my goals with my recordings to sound like an ensemble of a bunch of instruments or sounds all being played together. This is true for each track I've put on Soundcloud, whether "synth" sounding or not.

So to achieve that feel, I prefer to record each overdub separately, with differences (often subtle) in timing and other settings as well. For a given part of the music, the patches are usually the same or very similar, but with the parameters altered slightly or manipulated a little bit differently each time it's played. If I did have 4x the number of modules I wouldn't want to record them all in one pass, because I don't think that I would be able to adequately control the expression of each individual voice.

It's very time consuming, but I think it's worth it.

Got it

All the work paid off beautifully. Well done.

nlaudadio · Post by **nlaudadio** » Wed Mar 23, 2011 9:34 am

Wow. Fantastic work.

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