5U Filter shootout. Now with added tweedy goodness.

Christopher W. · Post by **Christopher W.** » Sun Feb 27, 2011 2:36 pm

[video][/video]

I'm not entirely happy with the audio on this one - the mic on the camera distorts really easily and not in a good way.

Still, it'll give you something of a flavour of the differences.

diophantine · Post by **diophantine** » Sun Feb 27, 2011 3:22 pm

Fantastic!! Great to hear & see these all in operation side-by side, and without all kinds of other stuff going on too.

A wonderful public service you've provided here; my wantlist has been duly updated.

Thanks!

JohnLRice · Post by **JohnLRice** » Sun Feb 27, 2011 3:27 pm

Nice demo, Chris! Makes me want to buy more filters!

sunsinger · Post by **sunsinger** » Sun Feb 27, 2011 3:40 pm

Nice demo.
Have you tried using a line output from the synth? Do a click pop at the beginning of the demo and sync the vid sound the audio pop.
Poof, no more mic distortion.

I keep trying to do a straight demo like this. Just the straight product demo.
I just cant stay away of creating music and dropping fx in while I go. I know that folks hate it when I do this.

JohnLRice · Post by **JohnLRice** » Sun Feb 27, 2011 4:30 pm

sunsinger wrote:I keep trying to do a straight demo like this. Just the straight product demo.
I just cant stay away of creating music and dropping fx in while I go. I know that folks hate it when I do this.

I

everything you do, Ron!

And I understand . . .most of my 'pure' demos try to turn into something 'musical' by the end and often things that I had intended to be just equipment or technique demos turn into full blown music videos.

I'm more of a musician/composer than a scientist I guess but . . . when my music composition/performance sucks . . . . I label it 'test' or 'demo'!

Christopher W. · Post by **Christopher W.** » Sun Feb 27, 2011 5:09 pm

sunsinger wrote:Nice demo.
Have you tried using a line output from the synth? Do a click pop at the beginning of the demo and sync the vid sound the audio pop.
Poof, no more mic distortion.

Yeah, that's a good idea, only I lack any video editing capabilities (though as I'm just getting 'round to exploring what YouTube offers they might have something along those lines on the site).

I'd actually like to be doing it direct to a videocam, but I'm presently saddled with only a 4 year old Canon that's primarily a camera that they grafted video capabilities onto. If anyone can suggest a good, budget-friendly and small video camera with 1/8" or 1/4" input(s) bundled with some basic PC software I'd be grateful.

JohnLRice · Post by **JohnLRice** » Sun Feb 27, 2011 5:42 pm

I haighly recomend and use Sony Vegas Movie Studio Platinum Pro 9 for all my YouTube videos and I really love it! The current version 10 goes for about $70 or so. (there is also a more stripped down version for about $40)
http://www.sonycreativesoftware.com/moviestudiope

sduck · Post by **sduck** » Sun Feb 27, 2011 5:46 pm

I made a video something along these lines a while ago - it's gotten very few views, so I'll post it here again - not competing with Mr. Tweed, rather complementing his video, as we don't share any of the same filters...

[video][/video]

hellohihowareyou · Post by **hellohihowareyou** » Sun Feb 27, 2011 6:19 pm

Great videos, guys.

The CS-80 filter is ridiculously smooth.

sunsinger · Post by **sunsinger** » Sun Feb 27, 2011 6:38 pm

JohnLRice wrote:
sunsinger wrote:I keep trying to do a straight demo like this. Just the straight product demo.
I just cant stay away of creating music and dropping fx in while I go. I know that folks hate it when I do this.
I everything you do, Ron! And I understand . . .most of my 'pure' demos try to turn into something 'musical' by the end and often things that I had intended to be just equipment or technique demos turn into full blown music videos. I'm more of a musician/composer than a scientist I guess but . . . when my music composition/performance sucks . . . . I label it 'test' or 'demo'!

Thanks John... that's very kind of you.
I don't even go through the trouble to make cool viddies like Chris did, or the complex ones you do. (This coming from someone who occasionally does sound design and mixing for film & TV)

One day I'd love to do a viddie, and I keep promising to do it.
Chris has shown the right approach here. Just pick up the damn camera and do it!!!

@ Chris, a camera with external audio inputs is the best overall solution if you don't know video editing. I've got Adobe Premier, and cant use it at all.

kindredlost · Post by **kindredlost** » Sun Feb 27, 2011 8:25 pm

Great demo Christopher and sduck. I've recently been going silly for a few more filters but only have a couple to show for it right now. I'm currently compressing a video (actually two) for viewing later that is a sort of weird "filter shoot-out". It is two different construction methods of the same filter design. ?WTF?

The video's here are of several different types of filters and the things that often make me wonder are the differences between similar types of filters. I have an Oakley Super Diode Ladder filter coming in and want to compare it to the Sea Devils diode ladder filter. The video I'm working on has a filter design similar to the Q150 so it will be fun to compare them as well. My Oakley VC-SVF is similar to the Q107 and needs to have a comparison video made too.

I really enjoyed the Mega Ohm Audio and Buchla Clone LPG demos. I have neither and haven't heard any really good examples with video up till now. Thanks for the demonstrations. They are entirely different from my Cyndustries QLPG.

kindredlost · Post by **kindredlost** » Sun Feb 27, 2011 8:30 pm

Oh, and also - I can't seem to make great demos of strictly the modules either. I always get worried the musical aspects of it will be too boring so I end up with complex patches of entirely too elaborate of a sound to tell what is really going on with a single module. Seems there are a bunch of us in that basket around here.

You guys are doing well with these videos. Good quality too.

Scooter McCrae · Post by **Scooter McCrae** » Sun Feb 27, 2011 9:22 pm

Very nice, Chris. That Sea Devils Filter sounds especially nice to my ears -- damn that's some nasty resonance it has! I think that and the MegaOhm were my favorites of the bunch, but they all sound kinda great in their own way.

Also really enjoyed the hand flourish at the end. It went perfectly with the tweed.

Scooter McCrae

Synthbuilder · Post by **Synthbuilder** » Fri Mar 04, 2011 3:04 am

kindredlost wrote:My Oakley VC-SVF is similar to the Q107 and needs to have a comparison video made too.

The one thing you have to bear in mind when comparing Oakley modules is that different issues can sound different to one another. The Oakley SVF issue 1 is a totally different beast to the Oakley SVF issue 5.

And as for Diode Superladders - well the new one sounds considerably different to the older ones. It's worth remembering this when buying second hand units as some sellers, unaware of this, link their sales pitch to the current web pages and sound samples.

Some one told me I should abandon the issue numbers and give each one a different name.

And for no reason whatsoever I shall use this emoticon:

Tony

wyrtti · Post by **wyrtti** » Fri Mar 04, 2011 5:35 am

Thank you both for these videos!

They make me want to buy new filters...

7thDanSound · Post by **7thDanSound** » Fri Mar 04, 2011 6:37 am

Really nice demo Chris, glad you got yourself in the game! Making videos has been my way back into synths and I haven't had this fun with my machines in years. Never was much of a musician and what skills I might have had are long gone due to lack of training. Demos however, are fun and mostly drive themselves.

Keep posting and more tweed and scotch please!

Christopher W. · Post by **Christopher W.** » Fri Mar 04, 2011 7:28 am

Thanks, Nik.

I'm still trying to find a camera that works for me. Went to Best Buy yesterday and it was an exercise in futility because none of the affordable video cameras I found have an audio input. I'm not going to get megabuck studio results regardless, but it would be nice to have something other than $300 speakers playing into a crappy onboard mic (complete with room acoustics).

I probably should just record the audio separately, but it seems like such a hassle. I'm all about the laziness.

kindredlost · Post by **kindredlost** » Fri Mar 04, 2011 7:58 am

Synthbuilder wrote:The one thing you have to bear in mind when comparing Oakley modules is that different issues can sound different to one another. The Oakley SVF issue 1 is a totally different beast to the Oakley SVF issue 5.

Point taken. I have the Issue 5 model and I'm so new to Oakley modules (foreign until Paul Darlow's efforts) that I'd have no idea of an "all Oakley comparison". Regardless, the Q107 is fundamentally the same as the Oakley SVF so it does warrant a comparison.

I must include the "it's bacon" emo with any thought of Oakley...

doctorvague · Post by **doctorvague** » Fri Mar 04, 2011 8:44 am

Thanks for posting these, guys!

7thDanSound · Post by **7thDanSound** » Fri Mar 04, 2011 1:32 pm

Christopher Winkels wrote:I probably should just record the audio separately, but it seems like such a hassle. I'm all about the laziness.

Well, I guess it depends. I do that and sync by hand. Editing my movies takes like 15-25 minutes (when it isn't stop motion

) so I think I can live with it. Sometimes though, when cutting the video the speed gets screwed up so the clip gets out of sync with the separate audio further on. That sucks.

I have crappy lighting in my studio and really need to get a better camera to handle the low light conditions.

thiagozt · Post by **thiagozt** » Thu Mar 10, 2011 1:56 am

thanks for posting these

I need a PLS so bad....

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5U Filter shootout. Now with added tweedy goodness.

5U Filter shootout. Now with added tweedy goodness.