Macbeth M5/M5N/M5O? Remake

hellohihowareyou · Post by **hellohihowareyou** » Wed Feb 23, 2011 6:02 pm

I did some searches and couldn't find this topic, although I'll be surprised if I am the first to ask....

Is there any possibility that Ken will be making any more M5/M5N's?

The 5U format looks beautiful, and I already have an MOTM system, but I like the semi-modular nature of the M5.

There is always used, but I'm pretty sure every other wiggler is trying to grab them as soon as they are up for sale...

edit: POLL

krv · Post by **krv** » Thu Feb 24, 2011 2:50 am

I voted for I would buy more than one..... that's my feeling
There is no hope though....
Six months ago when I fisrt start talking with Ken about is MK 1 modules he said "NO WAY! if you want MacBeth and don't want to go euro just get MK1"

tIB · Post by **tIB** » Thu Feb 24, 2011 3:44 am

I would love to buy one, unfortunately I probably fit into the broke dreamer category... confirmed since as yet I've not been able to afford the backend to go with my dual osc.

jenamu6 · Post by **jenamu6** » Thu Feb 24, 2011 3:49 am

That poll isn't complete....

where's the option "already have one."?

Finally got a chance to brag.

jl · Post by jl » Thu Feb 24, 2011 9:48 am

What happened to the 5u modules? I have been looking at the AH site almost everyday for about 6 weeks and haven't seen them. I asked in another thread and got no answer. I would prefer the modules, but might consider an m5 if they aren't actually happening. However, if they aren't happening--even though it seemed like they were going to be released last month--then I worry about waiting around for an m5 that never comes. I know he is just one dude, but he gets me all worked up waiting for awesomeness --- then silence.

Fidgit · Post by **Fidgit** » Thu Feb 24, 2011 10:15 am

being broke is not the only reason not to want / buy one...
there are other comparable synths in this ballpark. think GRP A8, fenix II / III etc.

hellohihowareyou · Post by **hellohihowareyou** » Thu Feb 24, 2011 3:57 pm

I've already sent money to Fenix and there is no question that it is a unique and fascinating piece.
You can spend 25% less, but then, you're not getting an M5.

Let's throw it into perspective, you can buy a Fender Stratocaster for $1000, you can buy a premium Les Paul for $3000. Guitar geeks aside, they don't function very differently and after a couple pedals, the tone will be different but comparable.

Point is, if you want a Macbeth, you want the things that Macbeth does well.

The "I'm broke" poll option was meant as a joke for all of the people who want one but just can't swing it.

hellohihowareyou · Post by **hellohihowareyou** » Thu Feb 24, 2011 3:59 pm

On the same topic, there are many people who would tell you that buying a Fenix or and sort of analog modular is crazy given what you can do with software. You might argue that it just doesn't sound or feel the same, but to them, all analog is overpriced.

It's music. No one is wrong.

krv · Post by **krv** » Thu Feb 24, 2011 4:02 pm

jl wrote:What happened to the 5u modules? I have been looking at the AH site almost everyday for about 6 weeks and haven't seen them. I asked in another thread and got no answer. I would prefer the modules, but might consider an m5 if they aren't actually happening. However, if they aren't happening--even though it seemed like they were going to be released last month--then I worry about waiting around for an m5 that never comes. I know he is just one dude, but he gets me all worked up waiting for awesomeness --- then silence.

You'd better contact Ken directly... moment is near

krv · Post by **krv** » Thu Feb 24, 2011 4:03 pm

Fidgit wrote:being broke is not the only reason not to want / buy one...
there are other comparable synths in this ballpark. think GRP A8, fenix II / III etc.

Completly different machine... as I often read on this forum: "apples and oranges"

Popski · Post by **Popski** » Thu Feb 24, 2011 4:20 pm

got one! big white bastard. love it to death

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Popski · Post by **Popski** » Thu Feb 24, 2011 4:28 pm

I still voted 'I'd buy one' because I love it enough to want another..
with the expressionist I could do a 6 voice M5 stack..

sheeeeeeeeit!

BTByrd · Post by **BTByrd** » Thu Feb 24, 2011 5:28 pm

Popski wrote:got one! big white bastard. love it to death

Dayum, man! I had already dreamed of your setup. Except mine had 18U of Modcan in addition to the whitewash voyager, M5n and theremin.

But seriously... well done sir!

Popski · Post by **Popski** » Thu Feb 24, 2011 6:59 pm

BTByrd wrote:
Popski wrote:got one! big white bastard. love it to death

Dayum, man! I had already dreamed of your setup. Except mine had 18U of Modcan in addition to the whitewash voyager, M5n and theremin.

But seriously... well done sir!

totally!... a smallish Modcan B system is next on the list (plus video synth modules). I got financially stomped on in Decemebr/January though with a bunch of unforeseen expenses so it's going to take me a while to recover..
until then I've got 100 half populated pcbs I can attend to.

Ken MacBeth · Post by **Ken MacBeth** » Fri Feb 25, 2011 4:08 am

Popski!.......................what a lovely setup!! That Voyager just looks great with the M5N! .....and a MAQ16 and theremin too!

chiasticon · Post by **chiasticon** » Fri Feb 25, 2011 7:46 am

nice setup, popski! question tho: why do you have the vcf2 audio output patched into the vcf1 audio input which is normalled to vcf2 audio output? likewise, why do you have the lfo1 output patched into where the lfo1 input is normalled? are your normalled connections effed? (i have this issue on my 2600. it sucks.)

as for another m5n/m5 run... it'd be awesome, but i understand ken not wanting to do one. they're ridiculously big and i can imagine that alone presented a huge hassle to him. not to mention it's easier to sell $500 oscillators than $5k synthesizers.

i'd buy another tho, if i ever came across one and had the cash/space.

modularland · Post by **modularland** » Fri Feb 25, 2011 8:41 am

Have any M5 or M5N users been able to get theirs vcos tracking for polyphony? I could never get that to work somehow...

jenamu6 · Post by **jenamu6** » Fri Feb 25, 2011 9:25 am

modularland wrote:Have any M5 or M5N users been able to get theirs vcos tracking for polyphony? I could never get that to work somehow...

uh.....it's a mono synth?

You mean using the osc's with other modules....cause the M5 only has 1 VCA (2 if you count the ringmod too)

I sometimes use it to make 2 different sounds at once.....using the tingmod as a second vca and patching both adrs's separate ........never heard any tracking problems, but I might be tone deaf.

I do notice that I'm not able to get it to track more than 2 octaves.

Orbless · Post by **Orbless** » Fri Feb 25, 2011 11:03 am

I would love to have one

Popski · Post by **Popski** » Fri Feb 25, 2011 1:12 pm

chiasticon wrote:nice setup, popski! question tho: why do you have the vcf2 audio output patched into the vcf1 audio input which is normalled to vcf2 audio output? likewise, why do you have the lfo1 output patched into where the lfo1 input is normalled? are your normalled connections effed? (i have this issue on my 2600. it sucks.)

as for another m5n/m5 run... it'd be awesome, but i understand ken not wanting to do one. they're ridiculously big and i can imagine that alone presented a huge hassle to him. not to mention it's easier to sell $500 oscillators than $5k synthesizers.

i'd buy another tho, if i ever came across one and had the cash/space.

In that pic, M5n isn't actually patched (voyager gate, cv going to mults?) but there is something weird about the normalling of vcf2 and the VCA on my unit. Everytime I go to diligently figure it out though I get distracted.

I must admit I assumed I could do a 3 voice homophonic patch using the expressionist. I haven't tried that yet. I'm going to go give it a whirl now

chiasticon · Post by **chiasticon** » Sat Feb 26, 2011 1:06 am

ah that makes sense! was just curious. hope the normalling on yours isn't busted, tho

rasseru · Post by **rasseru** » Sun Feb 27, 2011 6:21 am

i would. i wanted one for years, took me till now to save up and they were discontinued ages ago.

gutted.

Ken MacBeth · Post by **Ken MacBeth** » Sun Feb 27, 2011 11:49 am

Hi All- I posted this to another thread for your interest!
viewtopic.php?p=409306#409306

rasseru · Post by **rasseru** » Fri Mar 04, 2011 5:07 pm

Ken MacBeth wrote:Hi All- I posted this to another thread for your interest!
viewtopic.php?p=409306#409306

wrong thread mate - we needed 'new run of M5M model synths being produced'....

i love the self contained-ness of it. really is it that much of a windup to produce?

shame... loads of us are after semi-modulars 2600 style...

jtai · Post by **jtai** » Thu Apr 21, 2011 2:53 am

I'm a broke dreamer but what would a used M5N sell for these days?

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