Fat analog oscillator for bass

digikal · Post by **digikal** » Wed Jan 19, 2011 3:06 am

Looking for an analog osc to provide overweight basslines...Maybe thinkin of Wiard osc .....Experienced bass fiends can you offer me advice ? Obviously need it to be tight tracking wise..

anselmi · Post by **anselmi** » Wed Jan 19, 2011 3:45 am

what kind of bass? deep sines? raw filtered saws?

wiard is cool and vintagey, as is the RS95 and of course macbethÃ‚Â´s ones...then you got the z3000 with a more precise tone but analog all the way and capable of great bass

the uLFO is another favorite of some wigglers (although I never tried one)
then you got the MFB osc-2, that got a close tone resemblance with vintage roland synths

also some other stuff like filters and some audio processors like wavefolders and saturators could help

I also got a lot of bass action just using one half of the HD
check this thread

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phono1337 · Post by **phono1337** » Wed Jan 19, 2011 3:46 am

OSC303 is a perfect bassline osc, inexpensive also, however its not released yet, its a couple of weeks away though

http://www.dinsync.info/2011/01/quick-l ... -come.html

anadeji · Post by **anadeji** » Wed Jan 19, 2011 3:50 am

hehe 'phat'

REwire · Post by **REwire** » Wed Jan 19, 2011 3:56 am

I'd recommend the Bubblesound uLFO. It doesn't go real high so would make the best bassy analog osc (par PlanB M15) you can get now IMO.

The right filter is needed too to pass the right frequencies through and focus on the ones you need. The lowest beefiest filter I've ever had was the Doepfer A-105 SSM filter. STG's Sea Devil and Arp filters are good too.

Too bad Moog doesn't make Euro modules, the one in the M-107 Freq Box was the warmest osc I've heard.

Dan

digikal · Post by **digikal** » Wed Jan 19, 2011 3:58 am

Anselmi, thx for advice..
Primarily an osc that does very deep subby sines, and is also capable or raw, rich saws...

mantiwhore · Post by **mantiwhore** » Wed Jan 19, 2011 5:54 am

A to the F to the G.

slow_riot · Post by **slow_riot** » Wed Jan 19, 2011 5:59 am

metasonix r54 plus wiard boogie. worry about tracking later. phat doesn't begin to describe.

failing that.. macbeth, analogue systems . maybe afg.

tuj · Post by **tuj** » Wed Jan 19, 2011 7:29 am

afg and saw animator

bsmith · Post by **bsmith** » Wed Jan 19, 2011 7:39 am

Malekko Unkle oscillator is an excellent call for this.

gomora · Post by **gomora** » Wed Jan 19, 2011 8:18 am

M15 can do a deep and round analog sound
AFG for more futuristic distortion bass.

waveshapers will help too.

phase ghost · Post by **phase ghost** » Wed Jan 19, 2011 8:22 am

Every oscillator (or combo of oscillators) is capable of fat bass. It's all how you patch it up and dial it in.

Crash Test Specialist · Wed Jan 19, 2011 8:36 am

My AFG is capable of earth-shaking bass - patched through the Doepfer Wasp Filter produces some really nasty stuff! Love it!

Kakihara · Post by **Kakihara** » Wed Jan 19, 2011 8:57 am

M15

Or Hz Donut bottom half playing at 1 oct lower than top half, making it modulate the top guy a bit, using their separate output and independant level, mixed back together and passed in a boogie... that can shread your ears

felix le chat · Post by **felix le chat** » Wed Jan 19, 2011 9:04 am

phase ghost wrote:Every oscillator (or combo of oscillators) is capable of fat bass. It's all how you patch it up and dial it in.

I don't know actually, but maybe the original poster wants to use only one oscillator for bass (without any further processing). In this case, I have no idea which one is the best.

Otherwise, most people make bass sounds using an oscillator (or a mix of 2 or 3 oscillators) processed into either a lowpass filter or a waveshaper (using both can be good too of course). The lowpass method is easier to work with, because it is intended to remove harmonics from a rich signal, making a "deeper" sound. A waveshaper can add some harmonics to a very deep sound (like a sine), but can also remove some harmonics from a rich signal, so it may be more difficult to get direct results with it (my waveshaper has not arrived yet so I cannot tell you in practice).

In both cases, I agree that filter or waveshaper choice is more important than oscillator choice.
Currently I only have ONE very simple oscillator (Analogue Solutions VCO-6HP), the others being either serviced or not available for sale yet, and when using it with a Boogie or Borg 1 filter plus a single envelope generator, it can certainly produce a wide range of great bass tones. In this minimalistic 3-module example, of course the filter has to be used as both a lowpass filter (possibly resonant) and a lowpass gate. This works well with optical filters. If you have a 'normal' filter, the cutoff frequency may not be low enough for cutting the sound completely; in this case adding a second envelope generator and a VCA is mandatory.

Most compact oscillators have square, triangle and saw waves but it's difficult to find one with a sine wave. The upcoming Bubblesound VCO-8HP includes a sine wave. Besides this, some people use a resonant filter as a sine oscillator. Some filters cannot go to very low frequencies when doing this; in my compact system, the Filtare SE3 is the current best filter for this application.

Flc

franzschuier · Post by **franzschuier** » Wed Jan 19, 2011 11:21 am

Old Shool -uLFO or VCO2RM or Macbeth
New Shool -VCO6

The AFG can do great bass, but i think shines doing leads and stuff. IMHO

audioCTRL · Post by **audioCTRL** » Wed Jan 19, 2011 11:48 am

Self oscillating MMF-1

Limey · Post by **Limey** » Wed Jan 19, 2011 12:14 pm

not analog but very obesesounding: the e340

Transistor · Post by **Transistor** » Wed Jan 19, 2011 12:25 pm

Cough up the HP and go

A

F

G

or search the threads for what osc for brutal bass Q's and see this same answer have the highest share

VanEck · Post by **VanEck** » Wed Jan 19, 2011 12:35 pm

Transistor wrote:Cough up the HP and go

A

F

G

or search the threads for what osc for brutal bass Q's and see this same answer have the highest share

THIS.

AFG is awesome for bass, and also has a built in sub out for extra BEEF when needed.

wetterberg · Post by **wetterberg** » Wed Jan 19, 2011 1:14 pm

anadeji wrote:hehe 'phat'

Hehe +1000
also; "for bass". I'm tempted to just write "all of them", really.

Even the humble basic a-100 modules have this down in abundance!

felixer · Post by **felixer** » Wed Jan 19, 2011 1:45 pm

felix le chat wrote:difficult to find one with a sine wave

not really: a110. process other waveforms with a105 ssm filter .... and bob's your uncle

now if you want don to be your uncle get another a110, mod for lin fm and get an a101-2 lpg .... you can even have both at the same time 8_)
edit: should you happen to also desire a 'wicked uncle ernie' get geiger counter and/or plague bearer

anselmi · Post by **anselmi** » Wed Jan 19, 2011 2:09 pm

franzschuier wrote: Old Shool - VCO2RM
New Shool -VCO6

for me both VCO-2RM and VCO6 sounds VERY close (or identical) in the matched waveforms and both are very new school analog sounding

monroe · Post by **monroe** » Wed Jan 19, 2011 2:17 pm

rs95e. perfect tracking. perfect. buy mine: $240 shipped.

donics · Post by **donics** » Wed Jan 19, 2011 2:48 pm

What have i used?

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Fat analog oscillator for bass

Fat analog oscillator for bass