285e tips n tricks?

[dkcg]

Just showed up in the mail.

Any tips or tricks on this thing?

Can't wait to hear how it's up/down stereo mix sound is with small freq shifts.

[dougcl]

pm'd

[Kent]

I found that it swept too fast to be used in the same manner as I would use the Cwejman FSH-1 for Stereo Chicanery. Even with an external voltage. But what do I know. It's still fucking cool and the decision of 285e vs 297 was the hardest of them all.

says that Doug is emailing you about the feedback oscillator trick and some tasty others.

[dkcg]

I found that it swept too fast to be used in the same manner as I would use the Cwejman FSH-1 for Stereo Chicanery. Even with an external voltage. But what do I know. It's still fucking cool and the decision of 285e vs 297 was the hardest of them all.

says that Doug is emailing you about the feedback oscillator trick and some tasty others.

Not a big deal, between the 285e up and down outputs and a little swirling tomfoolery with the 227e, I'm sure I could get myself pretty satisfied. It's gonna be odd having a ringmod/frequency shifter, I haven't had one in a while.

Doug was emailing me some society secrets, stuff I can't say in public or the Knights of Buchlar would cut my tongue out.

One space left....hopefully gone in a few weeks...

But I still want the 223e and the 297.

[Guidotoons]

Everybody uses stuff differently.

I found that the balanced modulator section is highly useful as well. The ultimate ring modulator! CV control of this section is real useful as well.

This does not function like, say the old Bode freq shifter where I used to use it as a creamy phase shifter-ish processor. I use the 285e to add harmonics to an existing patch or as another vco.

I like to send a signal into the unit and feed the up/down outs hard left & right, then modulate with an FM signal or the SOI or LFO. Fun!

Experiment! I have stumbled onto some cool techniques by doing stuff "wrong" as well.

[prscrptn]

I have always believed that the 2 space powered boat was made for the 255 & 297.

[tesla]

This does not function like, say the old Bode freq shifter where I used to use it as a creamy phase shifter-ish processor. I use the 285e to add harmonics to an existing patch or as another vco.
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I agree,but like i posted before,try with your voice and you get a complete different idea of what it can do,in fact then you will realize it sounds creamy,i don't know why this isn't the case using vco's from the system

[Guidotoons]

I found that it swept too fast to be used in the same manner as I would use the Cwejman FSH-1 for Stereo Chicanery. Even with an external voltage. But what do I know. It's still fucking cool and the decision of 285e vs 297 was the hardest of them all.

says that Doug is emailing you about the feedback oscillator trick and some tasty others.

Oh, you'll still want a 297. MM, mmm good!

Have fun!

[Kent]

And a 297 is what I opted for in this initial purpose. I had to stop somewhere. I knew that I'd get the other in the 12 or 18 panel system that I will probably start designing in 8 months or so.

[dkcg]

I have always believed that the 2 space powered boat was made for the 255 & 297.

I believe you are correct.

Would be really cool to build a 2 space boat into an old lunchbox.

Sad thing is I could see filling a 12u boat if I had the money. the 24 space boat looks too big n clunky for me. Although, lyonel's double 24 space looks sexy!

[Kent]

I hate to talk ill of another man's wares, but if I just observe and report, then things are as they are or appear.

The 24-panel case is not very sturdy at all. I'm surprised at how much 'give' and lateral sway there is. They are also far to big to be considered portable. FYI, on that last bit there. I'm opting for 2 x 18 or an 18 and a 12.

[dkcg]

I'm opting for 2 x 18 or an 18 and a 12.

Talk of a second case even before you got your first one?
You didn't just jump in the deep end, you got a deep sea diving suit on there.

[Minimoog56]

I am enjoying a full 18 with just "e" mpdules and a sidecar 6 powered boat with 2X 258v, a 254v, the Pendulum Ratchet and the soon to arrive Mod Mod. That leaves me with one free space that I am reserving for another Eardrill module (LFO?) etc. If I fill that my next step is to get another 6 boat but unpowered and connected with some custom ears to the the powered 6 boat. I would put the 222e touch surface back in there and another three modules as they come out. I like the idea of a six by two 12U +18U.

[Kent]

I'm opting for 2 x 18 or an 18 and a 12.

Talk of a second case even before you got your first one?
You didn't just jump in the deep end, you got a deep sea diving suit on there.

In art & love (if they are really any different from each other [not in the way that I roll! ]) I don't believe in half-measures.

I literally planned out my 1st and 2nd cases at the same time. There is too much goodness out there for just one case.

P.S. Just take a look at our man Lyonel. He buys a Vostok as his first modular synth and then jumps right into a double 24-panel!

[Lyonel]

[dkcg]

In art & love (if they are really any different from each other [not in the way that I roll! ]) I don't believe in half-measures.

I literally planed out my 1st and 2nd cases at the same time. There is too much goodness out there for just one case.

P.S. Just take a look at our man Lyonel. He buys a Vostok as his first modular synth and then jumps right into a double 24-panel!

In that case, no pun intended, I think I subconciously also have a 2nd case going. That's become the new dream case for me.

A couple nights ago I was working on a polyphonic patch that I actually played with a midi keyboard. It was a lot of fun hearing "standard" synth sounds, felt like an alien clone of a minimoog. But I started wishing I had 3 or 4 of the same oscillators to achieve true polyphony. I could easily see a second case providing those 2-3 additional same voices, or even one case dedicated to polyphony, a la Lainhart.

These Berkley dragons are so much harder to chase than those smaller quicker euro dragons. I dunno if that's good or bad.

[prscrptn]

Unfortunately this has always been my problem with Buchla...

I have never been able to say enough; I always want more than I can fit/afford.

[dkcg]

EThis does not function like, say the old Bode freq shifter where I used to use it as a creamy phase shifter-ish processor. I use the 285e to add harmonics to an existing patch or as another vco.

I've only briefly used an ASys "Bode" shifter and used to own a Cwejman. The Cwejmen sounded quite different.

I see what you mean by adding harmonics, it's very useful for that. I've been experimenting with it all morning, and it's a lot of fun and useful for changing timbre in a way I'm not used to in the buchla.

Fun times.

[Guidotoons]

I've been experimenting with it all morning, and it's a lot of fun and useful for changing timbre in a way I'm not used to in the buchla.

Fun times.

That is what is so cool about these. No "set rules" need apply!

Have fun!

[exeterdown]

Sometimes all the harmonic oscillator insanity can make a demo hard to understand. Would anyone be willing to chuck some vocal samples through this thing to give a better impression of what it is and isn't doing?

Would be greatly appreciated.