Bring on the random

[Blairio]

err... NLC Sloth anyone? slow Random voltages on two axes (+/- 8 Volt, +/- 3 volt) with cycle times of around 15 minutes (for the quickest one!).

Great for modulating colour & timbre of Braids patches.

Very Cool.

[Pris]

If you ever get the chance to grab a Cwejman RG6, take it.
It is worth the high price.

[R.U.Nuts]

S&H + white noise and expand from there...

Certainly one way to do it!

Also, Turing for easy to manipulate sequences.

Indeed. The SSF UltraRandom is two S&H channels, with white noise sources. Plus a clock normalized to drive the
S&Hs, plus slew limiters on the outputs, plus a pulse density output (gives you varying degrees of _time_ randomness,
like having the speed of your MATHS cycle-done itself driven by a S&H with controllable amounts of deviation. Plus
some vactrol action slew limiting. Plus some other stuff I forgot, but it's right there on the faceplate so no menu diving or
three-fingered Vulcan death pinch to make it happen.

The only thing it doesn't do is quantize the voltages out like a Sputnik. But it does other things the Sputnik doesn't.

It's a five-star module. Pair it with a Turing and you are good to go.

- Bill

Yeah you're right those dedicated random modules cram a lot of functionality in little space and ar probably less expensive than a number of smaller modules that can deliver the same functionality. The big downside of them is that they're not that open ended since a lot is normalized internally and not available as patch points. That's why I'd prefer a combination of smaller modules. For example take the possibilities a bread and butter S&H offers if you don't plug white noise into it's input. Example: plug the triangle wave of a VCO into the S&H input. Clock it with a trigger sequence. Run a division of your master clock into the hard-sync input of the VCO: poor man's random CV sequenzer. Use the square output of that VCO instead of the triangle and the master clock to trigger the S&H: poor man's random trigger sequencer

[wsy]

Yeah you're right those dedicated random modules cram a lot of functionality in little space and ar probably less expensive than a number of smaller modules that can deliver the same functionality. The big downside of them is that they're not that open ended since a lot is normalized internally and not available as patch points. That's why I'd prefer a combination of smaller modules. For example take the possibilities a bread and butter S&H offers if you don't plug white noise into it's input. Example: plug the triangle wave of a VCO into the S&H input. Clock it with a trigger sequence. Run a division of your master clock into the hard-sync input of the VCO: poor man's random CV sequenzer. Use the square output of that VCO instead of the triangle and the master clock to trigger the S&H: poor man's random trigger sequencer

The SSF URA is good that way. Lots of normals with interrupting jacks.

You have incoming patch points for S/H A and B inputs (white noise is normalled to them), you have a clock FM
input and and the clock normals to an external clock input; the electronic slew normals to S/H B, the vactrol slew normals
to the random pulse generator (with knob and jack), and a third slew comes from a noise source without a normal, but you can influence
it in direction and probability which
is what it's supposed to be .

I'm probably getting something wrong as well.

The manual is here: https://static1.squarespace.com/static/ ... ev1.00.pdf

The URA is one of the few modules I have that I would change NOTHING on (the Chronoblob is another. And maybe MATHS. But that's pretty much it...).

- Bill

[geremyf]

Don't forget The URA clock tracks 1V/octave as well!

[R.U.Nuts]

Yeah you're right those dedicated random modules cram a lot of functionality in little space and ar probably less expensive than a number of smaller modules that can deliver the same functionality. The big downside of them is that they're not that open ended since a lot is normalized internally and not available as patch points. That's why I'd prefer a combination of smaller modules. For example take the possibilities a bread and butter S&H offers if you don't plug white noise into it's input. Example: plug the triangle wave of a VCO into the S&H input. Clock it with a trigger sequence. Run a division of your master clock into the hard-sync input of the VCO: poor man's random CV sequenzer. Use the square output of that VCO instead of the triangle and the master clock to trigger the S&H: poor man's random trigger sequencer

The SSF URA is good that way. Lots of normals with interrupting jacks.

You have incoming patch points for S/H A and B inputs (white noise is normalled to them), you have a clock FM
input and and the clock normals to an external clock input; the electronic slew normals to S/H B, the vactrol slew normals
to the random pulse generator (with knob and jack), and a third slew comes from a noise source without a normal, but you can influence
it in direction and probability which
is what it's supposed to be .

I'm probably getting something wrong as well.

The manual is here: https://static1.squarespace.com/static/ ... ev1.00.pdf

The URA is one of the few modules I have that I would change NOTHING on (the Chronoblob is another. And maybe MATHS. But that's pretty much it...).

- Bill

Yes, just had a quick look at the manual. Great module. But I'd still prefer two independent S&Hs because you can clock them from different sources.

[wsy]

Don't forget The URA clock tracks 1V/octave as well!

That's right; it's also a VCO/LFO. ::-)

You could do a lot worse and still have a really nice module. :-)

- Bill

[nigel]

Yes, just had a quick look at the manual. Great module. But I'd still prefer two independent S&Hs because you can clock them from different sources.

If I'm understanding the demo, you can input a separate clock for the second S/H. So, yeah, it has that too!

[geremyf]

And there is actually a third S&H with the toggle A/B output.

[R.U.Nuts]

Yes, just had a quick look at the manual. Great module. But I'd still prefer two independent S&Hs because you can clock them from different sources.

If I'm understanding the demo, you can input a separate clock for the second S/H. So, yeah, it has that too!

Yes you're right. I checked that again. But S&H A is permanently hardwired to the internal clock so no external clock for S&H A.

[Roy72]

Yes, just had a quick look at the manual. Great module. But I'd still prefer two independent S&Hs because you can clock them from different sources.

If I'm understanding the demo, you can input a separate clock for the second S/H. So, yeah, it has that too!

Yes you're right. I checked that again. But S&H A is permanently hardwired to the internal clock so no external clock for S&H A.

But the Toggle A/B can be clocked synced, so you can get 2 synced and one that is never synced.

[beepbeep]

The random gods have spoken. A Wogglebug v2 will soon be en route. I'll probably try some other randoms as well, but this will give me a good start. Thanks everyone.

I'm leaning toward the Nano Rand as I'm trying to keep my eurorack small. The Sputnick looks cool to but is way to big. I may stick to the random theme and see what comes my way used.

[BLogic12]

wogglebug mk2 is a solid choice.

there was this thread on random recently too, check it for more perspectives:
viewtopic.php?t=171460&highlight=

[strangegravity]

S&H + white noise and expand from there...

I second this. Instead of a multi-function module why not accumulate the foundation blocks of random. Then you have more patch options.

S&H, noise, quantizers, slope detectors, and complex LFOs. I have a PHG Chain Reactor. I can spin up some wonky LFOs or Triggers. I also have an Ultra Wave LFO which has noise and random as LFO wave choices.

[richc90]

As much as I love my wogglebugs, I crave more random: next on my shopping lists are the A149/1-2 and maybe a sloth.

[memes_33]

spent some time with the URA cutsheet on a flight yesterday- certainly more intuitive than PTG. might have to figure out a way to get this thang in my rack now!

[beepbeep]

richc90, but in your signature you are selling a wogglebug?

As much as I love my wogglebugs, I crave more random: next on my shopping lists are the A149/1-2 and maybe a sloth.

[richc90]

note the plural: i have two at the moment and am selling one to allow me to get some different flavours of random.

[beepbeep]

S&H + white noise and expand from there...

I didn't realize until last night that Disting's S&H had noise built in, so I was thinking that I couldn't do this, but it does have noise.

Really dug it, I alternated between using the e355 and a plain as clock and used the random out, well everywhere. Still looking forward to the wogglebug as I want to free up the Disting, but this is a good start.

[beepbeep]

note the plural: i have two at the moment and am selling one to allow me to get some different flavours of random.

Just teasing you man. The Sloth is on my short list as well.

[beepbeep]

Does any use Disting's Shift Register Random Dual Triggers? Just read about it in another thread, next on my tryout list.