What is your end goal?

hollowman · Post by **hollowman** » Sat Nov 05, 2016 3:39 pm

interesting idea of an end goal...

I want to enjoy and explore alternative structures of sound that I don't feel capable of making with my synths.

Dr. Sketch-n-Etch · Post by **Dr. Sketch-n-Etch** » Sat Nov 05, 2016 10:36 pm

hollowman wrote:interesting idea of an end goal...

I want to enjoy and explore alternative structures of sound that I don't feel capable of making with my synths.

Well, why not? I mean, why can't you make those sounds with any of your synths, and what would it take to be able to make said sounds with synths?

blt · Post by **blt** » Sat Nov 05, 2016 10:57 pm

To create a wall of modular so large and unwieldy, that when I attempt to squeeze that last VCA into the upper left corner, and it's almost in after taking a fine layer of paint and drywall off, the center of gravity of the monstrosity I've assembled finally tips in the wrong direction, and I'm crushed beneath the now unmovable weight, and as my blood leaks out and becomes the marinara to the sea of spaghetti formed by the miles of patch cords, I just hope the last thing I see is the soft glow of a green or red led, not a violently bright blue led.

Fuck blue leds.

tgcheal · Post by **tgcheal** » Tue Nov 08, 2016 4:20 pm

blt wrote: I just hope the last thing I see is the soft glow of a green or red led, not a violently bright blue led.

Fuck blue leds.

This was incredibly poetic

neuroportal · Post by **neuroportal** » Tue Nov 08, 2016 4:50 pm

blt wrote:Fuck blue leds.

I like to think that someone, somewhere, has this tattooed.

bernwerlin · Post by **bernwerlin** » Wed Nov 09, 2016 11:42 am

Don't we all, for the most part, have the same goal? To build the "perfect" rig for ourselves?

southphillysynths · Post by **southphillysynths** » Wed Nov 09, 2016 1:04 pm

I share a lot of similar opinions with you.

My original goal was to be able to just play with this incredibly esoteric gear and just hear what comes out of it.

then it was to learn to compose this other worldy music and be a 'composer' my dad (who I live with) is always like I wan't to hear you 'play' the thing. Anytime I load up a major sequence and put some reverb on it he's like yeah that's it!! I don't really care about composing at this point.

I mostly like making drone music. I love just zoning out and patching and listening to what comes out of my gear. At this point my end goal is to make a few recordings and maybe put them on cassette for friends. But mostly It is just a means to explore sound. As long as I'm doing that I don't really worry about things.

I have bought and sold a lot of the hot new gear. I have built up a larger system recently with much more basic building blocks than I have worked with previously. I'm much happier with my system because it's cheap, I'm not worried about what is the next new module that I 'HAVE' to buy. I'm using junky old rack reverbs and effects that are dirt cheap and to me get the jobs done anyway!

I think that a lot of people run into too many option, too much money etc. There are a great number of small, relatively cheap complete voices now that can get you started. If you build up a system that has a lot of functionally dense complex things and you don't have like a vca or basic lfo it can be very frustrating to figure out the basics when your looking at some complex like serge type stuff.

I would say take your time and buy a few small things until you know what direction you want to go. I bought way more than I needed and got on the hype train for a lot of different things. for my drone music now I can you almost any old monosynth with a taped down key and a few pedals to still be 'exploring sound' and having a good time.

I also have built a good number of things. I find that I find building almost more fun than actually using what I've built. I have sold a lot of the stuff I built or traded it for a larger amount of cheap stuff. I recently built some pretty expensive module kits and ended up trading them for like 10 modules of basic doepfer stuff that I'm much happier with. I traded three modules for like half of my system! Building can be super rewarding and I feel like some people build a huge system just to build and don't end up having as much fun playing it as building! that's totally ok too!

anyway hope this helps!

Trilo · Post by **Trilo** » Wed Nov 09, 2016 1:20 pm

bernwerlin wrote:Don't we all, for the most part, have the same goal? To build the "perfect" rig of ourselves?

Poldenstein · Post by **Poldenstein** » Thu Nov 10, 2016 5:01 am

My end goal is enlightenment!
More seriously, my life is such a nightmare that building and jamming with my modular is the only thing that keeps me alive.

hollowman · Post by **hollowman** » Thu Nov 10, 2016 7:03 am

Dr. Sketch-n-Etch wrote:
hollowman wrote:interesting idea of an end goal...

I want to enjoy and explore alternative structures of sound that I don't feel capable of making with my synths.
Well, why not? I mean, why can't you make those sounds with any of your synths, and what would it take to be able to make said sounds with synths?

the patching options, the basic options.

jos3no · Post by **jos3no** » Thu Nov 10, 2016 7:38 pm

death by snu snu

mousegarden · Post by **mousegarden** » Fri Nov 11, 2016 2:01 am

I could do with a few goals right now, I'm sick of just drifting.

acidbob · Post by **acidbob** » Fri Nov 11, 2016 3:41 am

I wanna make tracks you can dance to

mousegarden · Post by **mousegarden** » Fri Nov 11, 2016 4:26 am

acidbob wrote:I wanna make tracks you can dance to

In my case you'd have hard job on your hands...

FearKonstruktor · Post by **FearKonstruktor** » Sat Nov 12, 2016 3:35 pm

For now, it's just a making tunes to chill a bit from everyday routine))

Fierball · Post by **Fierball** » Sun Nov 13, 2016 6:48 am

Reading these stories, I'm amazed at how similar many of our back stories are.

I'm also a 40-something who's spent his whole like as a network systems consultant. Building hardware, building software, building networks... I dabble in EE. Design my own boards. In the early days of "drones" (still don't like that word) I wrote a ton of microcontroller code, but eventually China took over, and now you can buy them for US$10.

I grew up in a very musical family, we still play together at family get togethers, but music has always been a neglected hobby for me. I find that at this point in my life, I really want to pursue it more, and with my soldering station at my side, I'm finding modular to be a great way to broaden my horizons.

I understand digital intuitively. Software and micros just make sense, but beautiful analog circuitry has always been a bit of black magic to me.

My end goal is to LEARN. Hopefully along the way I make some noises that please me (and maybe others), but the learning is the thing for me.

dumbledog · Post by **dumbledog** » Mon Nov 14, 2016 4:08 pm

acidbob wrote:I wanna make tracks you can dance to

YEAAAAAAHHHH I WANNA DANCE WITH SOMEBODY

I WANNA FEEL THE HEAT WITH SOMEBODY

Hi5 · Post by **Hi5** » Mon Nov 14, 2016 4:41 pm

End Goal = Bangers

asgood · Post by **asgood** » Wed Nov 16, 2016 1:06 pm

Basically, to make music and explore composition as a dynamic, symbiotic relationship between myself and the emergent properties of the material world.

Seriously, I love the tension between the desire to compose and the ability to let things become what they will become.

Just want to keep refining that ability to know what I'm doing so I can get to interesting results more quickly.

Short-term goal would be to do some sort of live performance.

Infinity Curve · Post by **Infinity Curve** » Wed Nov 16, 2016 8:26 pm

There is no goal, only the journey.

sackley · Post by **sackley** » Wed Nov 16, 2016 10:51 pm

Infinity Curve wrote:There is no goal, only the journey.

Truth

MrNezumi · Post by **MrNezumi** » Thu Nov 17, 2016 12:33 am

Infinity Curve wrote:There is no goal, only the journey.

Or perhaps the journey is the goal.

monads · Post by **monads** » Thu Nov 17, 2016 1:51 am

Infinity Curve wrote:There is no goal, only the journey.

However...

"There is no goal, only the journey", to the end....the end is a journey to the goal, which is a journey....

and so an endless repetitive cycle......

neuroportal · Post by **neuroportal** » Thu Nov 17, 2016 4:10 am

monads wrote:
Infinity Curve wrote:There is no goal, only the journey.
However...

"There is no goal, only the journey", to the end....the end is a journey to the goal, which is a journey....

and so an endless repetitive cycle......

Unless the goal is the journey - in which case congratulations.

Infinity Curve · Post by **Infinity Curve** » Thu Nov 17, 2016 11:02 am

Setting a goal is like picking a destination. I'd much rather wander aimlessly and see where it takes me. I do this for fun, no pressure, no outside influence, just me and the machine, interacting and feeding off each others energy. Sometimes I wonder who is more in control, but it hardly matters, as long as I am having fun and the sounds keep changing. I may start a patch with something in mind, but often times, throughout the process, the sounds that come out suggest different things or approaches, and end up going in a different direction - just roll with it and see where you end up. I enjoy my time much more since I stopped caring about output and releasing shit and just enjoy the moment and the interaction.

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