Optomix Rev 2

jimmie · Post by **jimmie** » Tue Jan 12, 2016 7:21 am

Very interesting. I wonder if I'll get new one or not..

craigie77 · Post by **craigie77** » Tue Jan 12, 2016 7:32 am

johnwynberg wrote:
craigie77 wrote:nice,,,, saves patching it as a compressor...
What's the compressor patch? I don't remember having seen it. Though I haven't read discussions about the Optomix in ages, so maybe I just forgot.

just a bog standard comp patch... applies too almost every VCA

mult yer audio into a Env extractor ( maths Ch 1 if you got it )
Invert the Env then Offset it so the VCA goes from Fully open to ducking

done!

p_ache · Post by **p_ache** » Tue Jan 12, 2016 8:14 pm

Having a possibility to use it as envelope is very nice in a small system, especially since you have 2 channels of it! I wanted to buy one, now I think I will just wait a bit.

johnwynberg · Post by **johnwynberg** » Wed Jan 13, 2016 5:41 am

p_ache wrote:Having a possibility to use it as envelope is very nice in a small system, especially since you have 2 channels of it! I wanted to buy one, now I think I will just wait a bit.

Exactly my thought. I could also do with a couple of envelopes at the top of my 12U case, where I have my Optomix, whilst keeping the functionality of an Optomix. I'm willing to pay up to £50 for the added functionality, but more than that, not sure.

johnwynberg · Post by **johnwynberg** » Wed Jan 13, 2016 5:51 am

craigie77 wrote:
johnwynberg wrote:
craigie77 wrote:nice,,,, saves patching it as a compressor...
What's the compressor patch? I don't remember having seen it. Though I haven't read discussions about the Optomix in ages, so maybe I just forgot.

just a bog standard comp patch... applies too almost every VCA

mult yer audio into a Env extractor ( maths Ch 1 if you got it )
Invert the Env then Offset it so the VCA goes from Fully open to ducking

done!

Ah, the envelope follower patch with Maths… I always found it a bit tricky, to get the right level, to track changes accurately, at least when playing my Theremini through Phonogene or the Metasonix reverb (dry). If the new Optomix saves me having to use Maths to get it working as a compressor, that’s a significant plus.

Has nobody bought one of the new Optomix yet, and kind enough to share first hands-on impressions?

damase · Post by **damase** » Wed Jan 13, 2016 10:02 am

Its not out or even announced yet and could even be false still... Right?
Either way i think the new improved damp circuit is the main thing that would make my current optomix jealous.

johnwynberg · Post by **johnwynberg** » Wed Jan 13, 2016 10:08 am

damase wrote:Its not out or even announced yet and could even be false still... Right?
Either way i think the new improved damp circuit is the main thing that would make my current optomix jealous.

I doubt it could be false. I trust the guys from London Modular. They even tweeted about it.

But, yes, it hasn't been officially announced by Make Noise. I assume they must be pretty busy preparing for NAMM.

moremagic · Post by **moremagic** » Wed Jan 13, 2016 10:30 am

make noise have updated their website but theres nothing about this on the optomix page. i hope we'll hear something about this later

PolarIceCaves · Post by **PolarIceCaves** » Wed Jan 13, 2016 10:44 am

moremagic wrote:make noise have updated their website but theres nothing about this on the optomix page. i hope we'll hear something about this later

ohhh cool update!
loved the old one

Carrousel · Post by **Carrousel** » Wed Jan 13, 2016 10:44 am

I should imagine it's true. The V1 optomix has been discounted at numerous retailers over the last month or two.

ym2612 · Post by **ym2612** » Wed Jan 13, 2016 11:45 am

Cool, I'm interested to hear this. I set the Damp parameters on my old Optomix pretty low and never touched them after that.

modernage · Post by **modernage** » Wed Jan 13, 2016 1:37 pm

I've been wanting to get an Optomix again after trading mine a while back, but have preferred the idea the LxD since it's a bit smaller and I never really messed with the controls on the Optomix much when I had it. I think I'm going to wait until Make Noise uploads one of their overview videos before I make a decision on what to buy.

Footkerchief · Post by **Footkerchief** » Tue Jan 19, 2016 12:23 am

New faceplate and feature list is up: http://www.makenoisemusic.com/modules/optomix

High Wolf · Post by **High Wolf** » Tue Jan 19, 2016 6:05 am

Not a big difference with v1 is it? Which is ok, I mean if it was a really different module then it would have a different name...

PolarIceCaves · Post by **PolarIceCaves** » Tue Jan 19, 2016 8:35 am

The new version is on the right. Much more clean look, nice update!

cthonist · Post by **cthonist** » Tue Jan 19, 2016 8:51 am

That's awesome, I literally just sold mine but I'm probably going to go and get the new one pretty quickly... 2 compressors & AD envelopes in 8hp on top of all its other functionality is too good to pass up

joem · Post by **joem** » Tue Jan 19, 2016 6:36 pm

PolarIceCaves wrote:The new version is on the right. Much more clean look, nice update!

I never had a problem with the older design (I'm a fan of MN's confusing-at-first-glance style), but yeah, the new one is still better, with only minor changes. Love the additional functionality too. This update seems to be what'll finally push me over the edge to get an Optomix, even though I already have enough LPGs....

lintfresh · Post by **lintfresh** » Tue Jan 19, 2016 7:43 pm

Not clear on how this would be considered compression. It's still going to filter out high frequency as amplitude is reduced which is not a behavior of true compression. At best you can call it "low pass compression" I suppose.

Footkerchief · Post by **Footkerchief** » Tue Jan 19, 2016 8:24 pm

lintfresh wrote:Not clear on how this would be considered compression. It's still going to filter out high frequency as amplitude is reduced which is not a behavior of true compression. At best you can call it "low pass compression" I suppose.

Is filtering out high frequency what DAMP does? I thought it had more to do with suppressing the vactrol's boinginess independent of the filter cutoff, but I've never been clear how that works electronically.

rapdotcom · Post by **rapdotcom** » Tue Jan 19, 2016 9:21 pm

moremagic wrote:make noise have updated their website but theres nothing about this on the optomix page. i hope we'll hear something about this later

A bit off topic but the new website looks great.

That said - the new optomix definitely looks great - never was too keen on the first version.

Spartacus · Post by **Spartacus** » Tue Jan 19, 2016 9:32 pm

Anyone know the new price?

ctte2112 · Post by **ctte2112** » Tue Jan 19, 2016 11:53 pm

Spartacus wrote:Anyone know the new price?

Judging by London Modular's website, it's the same price.

Opnotic · Post by **Opnotic** » Wed Jan 20, 2016 12:17 am

Judging by eye the Grayscale panel should fit still, -if it's possible to find another one. Then I guess I'd have to remember which is V1 and which is V2 (easy enough).

cthonist · Post by **cthonist** » Wed Jan 20, 2016 12:20 am

Footkerchief wrote:
lintfresh wrote:Not clear on how this would be considered compression. It's still going to filter out high frequency as amplitude is reduced which is not a behavior of true compression. At best you can call it "low pass compression" I suppose.
Is filtering out high frequency what DAMP does? I thought it had more to do with suppressing the vactrol's boinginess independent of the filter cutoff, but I've never been clear how that works electronically.

Adjusting DAMP with CONTROLl at a constant level definitely affects the high frequencies that get let through

As for it not being true compression.... Well a LPG's not a 'true gate' either, so what? I don't think anyone was expecting 2 channels of studio-grade compression. Sidechaining with LPG response is pretty useful and sounds good. I plan to get several dedicated compressor modules, but I'll definitely get this as well for slightly different applications

Blairio · Post by **Blairio** » Wed Jan 20, 2016 12:20 am

PolarIceCaves wrote:The new version is on the right. Much more clean look, nice update!

Interesting that the mk2 module has round nuts for the Damp and Control sockets, while the nuts on all the other sockets are hexagonal. mmm. Maybe improves the sound? Or allows a wee bit more space for the labels? Anyway, nice attention to detail.

I don't use side chain compression, so my mk1 Optomix will continue to do me just fine.

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