Roland System 1m price drop in the near future?

[xtinct]

Now that we about to see the Moog Mother-32 hit the eurorack market, any speculation on how quickly Roland will feel the pressure to price drop there System 1m?

[DSC]

I would imagine it depends how successful it has been so far.
Do we have any idea if they plan to release more modules?
Seriously, if they do, it would be a good indication of where the euro market is right now.

[windspirit]

Sorry but do you mean whether Roland or Moog will release more modules? Im curious if we will see anything else from DSI as well.

[RecycleYourPets]

I would imagine both are going to wait and see how the holiday season treats them as they both have low-mid price points which are good for entry level users

[BTByrd]

The premise of this thread makes no sense. Neither the Moog nor the Roland is a replacement for the other. The idea that Moog's entering the semi-modular market would somehow make Roland -- and only Roland -- change their prices doesn't hold up. The MSRP for both is the same and they're not substitutes.

[DSC]

The premise of this thread makes no sense. Neither the Moog nor the Roland is a replacement for the other. The idea that Moog's entering the semi-modular market would somehow make Roland -- and only Roland -- change their prices doesn't hold up. The MSRP for both is the same and they're not substitutes.

On the surface your statement makes sense. But since we are now in uncharted territory for both Moog and Roland (and DSI for that matter) this becomes less about their actual entry products and more about how 'on fire' the euro market is. Any crack in pricing from any of these guys will tell us a lot of where this cottage industry will go. You figure Roland probably did at least a run of 3000 units. Moog is probably somewhere half of that and who knows how much faith Dave has in it, but I guess we will see.

[BTByrd]

Given that we haven't seen any price drops in any Euro modules while the number of manufacturers and modules has exploded, I still don't think the OP's question makes any sense. Synths and modules don't tend to get price-dropped until they're about to be discontinued (and that's not especially common). Both Moog and Roland are jumping into a hot market that appears to be getting hotter by the minute. Why should we think that they'd have to drop their prices because of the "competition" when that's never happened in this market?

[kwaidan]

Given the recent price drop of the revamped Korg MS-20 line, I think the question is valid. I believe Korg also dropped the price of their Odyssey reissue. I took a deep loss with the MS-20 mini and will probably never buy another Korg product.

Unlike Korg, Native Instruments, or Yamaha, Roland seems more reliable with regards to pricing. However, there are quite a few keyboard versions of that M1 on sale used at Guitar Center. In fact, the M1 also has popped up recently.

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Why should we think that they'd have to drop their prices because of the "competition" when that's never happened in this market?

Not a matter of if, but when. These companies HAVE to turn profits, no matter what. If all of them release new modules at the upcoming winter Namm, then we know it is hotter than ever, but all it would take is someone like Korg to drop in with a low price budget line series of modules and this industry would have some fall out.

[dumbledog]

Given the recent price drop of the revamped Korg MS-20 line, I think the queI believe Korg also dropped the price of their Odyssey reissue.

Nah, street price has been a grand all year, and that's what Sweetwater's listing it as at least.

But the System 1m has only been out what, five months? Seems a bit early for a price drop unless it just flat out isn't selling.

[evileye0702]

One may not be the substitute for the other but that doesn't mean they aren't competitors. A person with a fixed amount of money in their pocket would have to pick one over the other.

All that being said I don't think we are going to see any significant price drops any time soon. The entry prices are pretty aggressive and if interest here is any indication, they are moving quite well. Maybe next year around this time. Keep in mind that we've hardly seen any modules drop in price. If they were to issue new models we might see it happen though

[TifaretMusic]

Didn't the regular System 1 get a pretty significant price drop when the 1m came out? I wouldn't be surprised to see a price drop on the 1m at some point, but probably not till next year at the earliest.