Stilson Hammer mkII = performance sequencer!

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Just had an hour to play this evening so a super quick jam :)

https://soundcloud.com/kel/imeglee

edit: actually, 45 mins looking at time stamps, includes recording and uploading taking photo and shit haha - super fast hour!!
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Detroit-Berlin----Hebden Bridge...funky minimal workout. Defo up my strasse.

There is some serious fun down the rabbit hole with the probability in this sequencer.

Timing sounds seriously awesome/funky on this one.

:guinness: :guinness: :guinness:

Played around the other night and realized that you can literally have the thing sound like it has the timing of a deranged monkey, which can also be good in a different way
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Finally... the recognition I deserve haha :hihi:

Joking of course, but Detroit-Berlin----Hebden Bridge made me laugh, thank you wireangel

I totally agree, always liked the SH, but this latest update puts it right up there with the very best, really fast to program these funky lines too.

Here's the patch:

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Baddcr wrote:Detroit-Berlin----Hebden Bridge
While I think I know what you used for the samples, you posted the pic as being your patch. Was there another module off camera that was part of the new "Detroit-Berlin Hebden Bridge" sound?
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Hey jwise

No, not at all, however there is a mixing desk (Presonus 32.4.2) and I was using the reverb on there and some eq, compression etc...

I'm proper tickled that the "Detroit-Berlin Hebden Bridge" sound is now apparently a thing - can't stop giggling :goo:

p.s. if you know what the samples are please let me know because I just put the Radio Music on random and I honestly have no idea what they are :D
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37, 48, 59, 64, 73, 80, 89, 96

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Baddcr wrote:Just had an hour to play this evening so a super quick jam :)

https://soundcloud.com/kel/imeglee

edit: actually, 45 mins looking at time stamps, includes recording and uploading taking photo and shit haha - super fast hour!!
Like it Steve
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wireangel wrote:Detroit-Berlin----Hebden Bridge...
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Duel Hammers.

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Worwell wrote:Duel Hammers.
Nice dua/elity of wordplay as well.
You mention Assimil8r.... know something?
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mt3 wrote:You mention Assimil8r.... know something?
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It was mentioned here that it is going to be released around NAMM. https://www.muffwiggler.com/forum/viewt ... 02#2677702

Looking forward to that one. Should pair well with the Stillson Hammer.
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anyone knows if a real song mode/ chaining of patterns is planned for the future.

also is the pattern change per track or do all tracks change when changing the pattern?
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BrokenBo wrote:anyone knows if a real song mode/ chaining of patterns is planned for the future.

also is the pattern change per track or do all tracks change when changing the pattern?
With the new CV Pattern change... "song mode" is already possible. Create a chain of patterns that form a song, and then sequence the CV Input to cycle through the patterns to create the song.

Patterns are changed in groups of four.
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How are you doing this please?

I can't get it to work, had three attempts at it now, the latest I am using ch4 from SH to send a voltage over 5V (locked to the gate) with a gate through an envelop with attack and decay set to 0, so it just creates a very short pulse at a specific voltage. Slide, Speed, Count, Delay, and extended parameters all set to 0.

The display flickers as it receives the signal so I have filmed it in slow motion and display very quickly changes to 3 or 4 random patterns but the next preset does'nt load.

I am usually pretty good with things like this, but it's making me feel stupid, what am I missing?

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I'm just using static voltage from external sources. I've done it with an Octone, a voltage offset from Samara, and Pressure Points. Maybe try something other than SHmkii for CV input?
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Thanks :)

A static voltage makes no sense, how would you determine 'when' to make the change? If it's a constant 5V+ then it would just keep changing patterns every time it got to the end of the current pattern.

I'll give it a go, maybe can make it work by sending static voltages and specifically selecting a pattern rather than trying to do the next/previous approach.

Thanks again... :)
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Patterns are preset to voltage values.
Pattern 1 = 0v
Pattern Advance Mode = 5v
Other patterns are selected via other voltage values.
Pattern 2 = 0.15v ~
Pattern 3 = 0.30v ~

I'm not sure what the exact voltage values are. Assuming 32 patterns divided by 5v to assume 0.15v per pattern select.

At least that's how I recall it working (away from rig at moment).
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Thanks, easier to parse than the manual :)

Pattern selection is in semitones!

Unfortunately it's still not working... :sadbanana:

Going to leave it now, maybe it will work next time? :)
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[quote="Baddcr"]Finally... the recognition I deserve haha :hihi:

Joking of course, but Detroit-Berlin----Hebden Bridge made me laugh, thank you wireangel

Hey, glad you appreciated it! I always think that synths sound more at home on Northern climes. Besides, 'daft' Yorkshire folk have been fine pioneers of the electronic sound.

Nice rig too! I didn't see the radio at first, as it was dressed up as a Harvestman module. Nice attention to detail. Not a million miles away from my case. Will post below.
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Duel Hammers!!!

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Worwell - loved the slabs of sound and sense of space. Never thought of having 2 of the beasts but the cross-patching would be amazing. I tend to use different tracks for CV's and Gates to create more evolving/phasing sequences, especially with the Argos Bleak thrown in.
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Continuing a theme of 'doubles' I have watched the Suzanne Ciani talk from Red Bull a few times (mainly to check out the Buchla) and at one point she mentions 'double gating', which I was having trouble understanding what she meant. I think she is passing a stream of sounds that have already been shaped by VCA and CV though a second process to create shifts in the stream.

More of a West Coast idea, I think, as my old Serge had a bunch of DUSG's etc that you could patch up to pulse and cross modulate etc. I just picked a second Polivoks Env/VCA so set up a quick patch with each side of PH mkii going to a Polivoks VCA and then each into a separate side of Double Andore, both sides set to cycle independently.

I think you could get more structured using a single voice and use both sides of the DA in series using the EOC pulses etc to create some interesting rhythmic shifting.

So to get back on topic, this is a single sequence from the Hammer routed to 2 independent voices (gated differently and using some of the probability functions), with each voice being 'double gated'.

The sequence is a single take. I did a second pass with the same patch, just with the sources mangled into a percolating percussive sequence. still exhibits similar phasing. Delay and Reverb from Eventide and Audio Damage plug ins in Live.

Picture of patch is the one in upload I did to the pics of systems thread.

https://soundcloud.com/cen-8/co4ll3sc
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Yep - that works wireangel :D

Great post - thanks for sharing!!

Liking the double hammering too Worwell

Great to see more photos and music being posted in the Harvestman section - good stuff everyone - good vibes :banana:
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Post by wireangel »

Cheers Baddcr!!!When you really start to dig in, the hammer is bonkers.

Definitely enjoying the liveliness of this part of the forum. So much thought and variety going into what people are doing.
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A couple items while exploring a current patch:

1. Does anyone else experience issues with loading presets while in External clock mode? If I load a new preset, and hit reset (as it loads upon Track 1-Step 1), I can't seem to consistently have the new preset appear. Sometimes it works, most times not. Switching to internal clock for a moment will cause it to load properly. Clocking it from Zorlon Cannon MkII at a glacial pace in this case. Feels like user error! :despair: :doh:

2. Having currently patched up a fairly complex patch, and while wrapping my head around some of V2.0, I've had a thought about the "Expander". Would anyone (Gov?) think it's possible to have a few jacks that output static CV set within the menu saved with each preset? These could be routed to CV ins throughout a system to control LFO/Tempo rates, Filter or VCO offsets, VCAs for modulation control, Wavetable location, etc.

3. To expand on that concept, and I think this is a real stretch, might it be possible to save the settings of MkII modules within the SH presets? Obviously there would have to be some kind of ribbon cable connection for normaling, maybe using the existing ports. Hertz Donut tracking, waveforms, mod destination. Kermit settings (at least the digital mod destination and rate setting). Zorlon Cannon clock settings. This would be incredible for patch evolution and performance.

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sackley wrote:3. To expand on that concept, and I think this is a real stretch, might it be possible to save the settings of MkII modules within the SH presets? Obviously there would have to be some kind of ribbon cable connection for normaling, maybe using the existing ports. Hertz Donut tracking, waveforms, mod destination. Kermit settings (at least the digital mod destination and rate setting). Zorlon Cannon clock settings. This would be incredible for patch evolution and performance.

:omg: :ripbanana:
This kind of integration is what I'm hoping to see in the mk III modules...
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