Which LPG?

stephentrask · Post by **stephentrask** » Wed Apr 08, 2015 8:15 pm

Dogma

Hey there. You say the Thomas White LPG is "with all the mods (the Verbos mod and another i cant remember) is the sweetest of LPGs."

Can I ask couple of questions? Is the Verbos mod a correction to the circuitry based on Mark discovering an error in the commonly used schematic?

Is the other mod switching out two of the usual C3 Vactrols for the C4 Vactrol?

stephentrask · Post by **stephentrask** » Wed Apr 08, 2015 8:15 pm

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dmod · Post by **dmod** » Thu Apr 09, 2015 1:49 pm

Optomix is a safe bet as it sounds great and is a solid design. Love mine! Thomas White sound good from what I have heard too.

carlosnyb · Post by **carlosnyb** » Thu Apr 09, 2015 2:09 pm

dmod wrote:Optomix is a safe bet as it sounds great and is a solid design. Love mine! Thomas White sound good from what I have heard too.

The Optomix' design is brilliant, yes, I can imagine it's fun to play with the damping and strike inputs, and to have two LPG's in one module like that. If I get another LPG it would probably be an Optomix.

orangehexagon · Post by **orangehexagon** » Thu Apr 09, 2015 4:53 pm

carlosnyb wrote:
dmod wrote:Optomix is a safe bet as it sounds great and is a solid design. Love mine! Thomas White sound good from what I have heard too.
The Optomix' design is brilliant, yes, I can imagine it's fun to play with the damping and strike inputs, and to have two LPG's in one module like that. If I get another LPG it would probably be an Optomix.

Yes, but beware the bleed and potentially super fast vactrols. No two Optomix are the same.

IMO, nothing beats a pinged Borg.

nectarios · Post by **nectarios** » Tue Dec 22, 2015 9:39 am

I find the MMG and Optomix to remove crusial top end info at max settings.

On the search for LPGs that have bite when opened fully.

MMG manual describes the Trimmer 2 for calibrating how much the cut off will open, although it says its not recommended to be played with...

alamandra · Post by **alamandra** » Tue Dec 22, 2015 10:18 am

Don't really know a whole lot about lpg's nothing at all compared to most in this thread. Because for one thing they actually own them lol. I'm going to break myself in with one of these...

bobbcorr · Post by **bobbcorr** » Tue Dec 22, 2015 10:59 am

orangehexagon wrote:
carlosnyb wrote:
dmod wrote:Optomix is a safe bet as it sounds great and is a solid design. Love mine! Thomas White sound good from what I have heard too.
The Optomix' design is brilliant, yes, I can imagine it's fun to play with the damping and strike inputs, and to have two LPG's in one module like that. If I get another LPG it would probably be an Optomix.
Yes, but beware the bleed and potentially super fast vactrols. No two Optomix are the same.

IMO, nothing beats a pinged Borg.

MindMachine · Post by **MindMachine** » Wed Dec 23, 2015 11:06 pm

alamandra wrote:Don't really know a whole lot about lpg's nothing at all compared to most in this thread. Because for one thing they actually own them lol. I'm going to break myself in with one of these...

Holy moly that thing sounds fantastic. Thanks for pointing this one out.

craigie77 · Post by **craigie77** » Thu Dec 24, 2015 7:29 am

Make Noise LxD??

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BLogic12 · Post by **BLogic12** » Thu Dec 24, 2015 7:50 am

+1 for the ryo aperture!
Replaced my Pitts lpg. The Pitts ping decay was just way to fast for me, didn't find it very musically useful.
The vactrol seems just right on the aperture, has a good rage of fast/slow ping just by changing the tripper length a few ms.
More examples in the aperture thread
1ms ping:
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5ms ping:
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calaveras · Post by **calaveras** » Thu Dec 24, 2015 8:35 am

I've got an Optomix. It's actually pretty great as a LPG. But I also really like passing CV through it. That is what makes that mix out so effing cool! Sending two CVs to the same place with different pings.

I tried the dual Borg down at Control and was massively underwhelmed. I suppose that perhaps I was not hitting it with a hot enough gate as others have mentioned. It just sounded dirty, unclear and very slow.
Have to give it another chance and try bonking it with a gate boosted by an offset or VCA. Still, I dont need to engage in any such tomfoolery to get the optomix to ping satisfactorily. I'm still going to get one when I start working on a row of Malekko/Wiard.

One thing I like to do, is set up a simple patch with an OSC running through one channel of the opto. Then once I get it sloping just right I patch an LFO or some other modulation source through it instead.
I find it way easier to hear the action of the controls when it's simply closing on a bright square wave then when it is closing on an LFO .

Spartacus · Post by **Spartacus** » Sun Jan 17, 2016 10:45 am

Does anyone have an opinion of the Doepfer 101-2 vs the PGH LPG? I have the chance to buy used ones.

imxtristan · Post by **imxtristan** » Sun Jan 17, 2016 11:03 am

vytis wrote:Pittsburgh Modular LPG!
Can be used as an LPG, a resonant filter and a VCA.
Clean/Bright sound if you want. Dirty and dark if you adjust the attenuator.
I love it.

Yep, agreed. I have two because it serves two distinct functions very well.

As a filter, it can scream in the most delightful way- I love using it for lead sounds. It's aggressive nature cuts through the mix well.

But I also love kick drum sound achieved from pinging it- it's brutal. I'll even take it a step further by low pas filtering the kick into a tight, compressed house shaking kick drum. You can even feed it waveforms while pinging it to achieve a tuned kick.

exper · Post by **exper** » Sun Jan 17, 2016 12:04 pm

Spartacus wrote:Does anyone have an opinion of the Doepfer 101-2 vs the PGH LPG? I have the chance to buy used ones.

I found the doepfer much more versatile. Cleaner sound as well. Still not much of a ring to it, but still sounded far better to me ears than the Pgh. Plus the logic switching is really useful. With the right input and settings you can actually create multiple drum sounds.

Spartacus · Post by **Spartacus** » Sun Jan 17, 2016 1:51 pm

Thanks a lot exper. Although I've only just joined the forum, I've been reading it for a couple of month and I discern a negative opinion of Doepfer modules. I think I'll give it a try.

hinterlands303 · Post by **hinterlands303** » Sun Jan 17, 2016 3:07 pm

exper wrote:
Spartacus wrote:Does anyone have an opinion of the Doepfer 101-2 vs the PGH LPG? I have the chance to buy used ones.
I found the doepfer much more versatile. Cleaner sound as well. Still not much of a ring to it, but still sounded far better to me ears than the Pgh. Plus the logic switching is really useful. With the right input and settings you can actually create multiple drum sounds.

I very briefly put my 101-2 up for sale after I got the LxD until I came to my senses. The Doepfer doesn't ring like the MN stuff but it gives you a ton of control over the sound. The logic stuff is really useful as well. Even if you only use it as a low pass filter it's worth it's space in the case.

dumbledog · Post by **dumbledog** » Mon Jan 18, 2016 4:20 pm

How do you like the LxD?

cthonist · Post by **cthonist** » Tue Jan 19, 2016 8:56 am

If anyone's about to buy an LPG, Optomix v2 was just announced! Added compression & envelope generation capabilities for both LPGs (unpatched, strike in causes envelope out; audio in to damp in now acts as sidechain compression)

lud · Post by **lud** » Tue Jan 19, 2016 9:02 am

LXD is an excellent module - compact, reasonably priced and sounds excellent. An excellent companion to Optomix and Maths

hinterlands303 · Post by **hinterlands303** » Tue Jan 19, 2016 9:50 am

dumbledog wrote:How do you like the LxD?

I really, really like it. So much that I immediately thought of selling my 101-2 as I mentioned above. But now I think they're the perfect pair. The LxD sounds very natural to me while the 101-2 sounds scientific if that makes any sense (although it can also get mean in LP mode).

I should note that I tried out two LxDs at Detroit Modular before buying and the bottom channel on the two units sounded VERY different from one another. One of them had a decay that was so long it was pretty much unusable unless you were making timpani sounds. I think we measured it at a full 10 seconds. The one I ended up getting is perfect - it still has a nice decay but totally manageable.

vytis · Post by **vytis** » Tue Jan 19, 2016 10:09 am

I own/have owned the following LPGs:

Make Noise Optomix
Make Noise LxD
Doepfer A-101-2
Pittsburgh LPG
Pittsburgh Synthesizer Box (it has the LPG circuit)
Malekko Boogie (well, sort of LPG)

To me the LxD and Optomix are the easiest to use. I really love the Strike input. If I had a super small system, I would get one or two LxDs and be happy with it (I did have two recently). As I now have 12U and gone all-Doepfer with a row of Malekko, I have kept the A-101-2, the Boogie and bought a Dual Borg which is due to arrive any day. Totally happy this way too. In fact, I'd happily replace the Boogie with two A-101-2s and call it a day. By the way, I don't go too extreme with resonace on the A-101-2. Two-thirds maximum. Otherwise it starts to squeal in a not-so-pleasant way. In Both mode it's just right.

I have to agree that the LxDs I had were VERY different sounding on the bottom section. One had super short decay, the other one was almost twice as long. I have one boxed still, very cool module...

The Pittsburgh LPG I modified with a different vactrol and it made a big difference. Sounded identical to the Optomix on non-resonant settings. But as a filter, the resonance was gorgeous!

The bottom line is, I wasn't disappointed with any one of them!

FatRocky · Post by **FatRocky** » Tue Jan 19, 2016 10:17 am

i want a Thomas White dual lpg and two RYO Apertures with greyscale panels and ill be more than happy!

anyone here tried the ryo Optodist as lpg ? any comment on that?
also , i heard something about using MMF1 as lpg?

Phil999 · Post by **Phil999** » Tue Jan 19, 2016 10:18 am

is there an LPG that shuts the gate completely like a VCA? I have Endorphin.es Terminal and two LxD's, they all bleed quite much.

listentoaheartbeat · Post by **listentoaheartbeat** » Tue Jan 19, 2016 11:57 am

FatRocky wrote:anyone here tried the ryo Optodist as lpg ? any comment on that?

Well, it's not a LPG (or any sort of low pass filter for that matter) so you cannot use it as one.

It squares up the peaks of a signal, thus adding harmonics. Therefore you can use it for doing just the opposite of a LPG. Send it a sine or a triangle, strike it with your gate, and get a nice percussive sound that starts with lots of harmonics and decays into whatever you sent in.

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