What one module really takes your system to the limit

AAG · Post by **AAG** » Mon Mar 02, 2015 8:40 am

@ETP: Did not mod it myself, was lucky and found a used, modded one for cheap. The mod looks ridiculously simple, though. There is information somewhere on Doepfers website.

@far: At the moment I use S&H mainly as a compositional tool to create polyphony.* For example I could have one simple sequence running a lead melody or bass line and hold some values for controlling other VCOs, sampling at odd intervals and triggering the voices controlled by the sampled voltages later (as in a beat or two later). This allows me to make harmonic compositions that are rather complex for a system without sequencers (I use gate signals and mixers for sequencing at the moment). Here's an example:

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This little thing was made in one take, no sequencing other than the A-161 patched up to an 8 channel DC mixer. S&H is fun.

*Polyphony in the harmonic, compositional sense, not in the synth-tech sense.

gottberg · Post by **gottberg** » Mon Mar 02, 2015 8:52 am

@AAG + Mort Rouge - Are you suggesting the same thing?

4130photo · Post by **4130photo** » Mon Mar 02, 2015 9:26 am

gottberg wrote:This :

^^ This

After downsizing my system to a rather smallish 9U/72HP i was finally able to afford a switch to all Stackcables, and for my patching this makes a major difference.

And also the Erbe Verbe is something i don't want to miss

Mort Rouge · Post by **Mort Rouge** » Mon Mar 02, 2015 9:34 am

gottberg wrote:@AAG + Mort Rouge - Are you suggesting the same thing?

Yes and no. Swedish people think alike (composition high five, AAG

), however, I'm specifically hinting at voltage accumulation. I'm planning to do a video demonstration later, but just writing a good, pedagogical script is a challenge

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gottberg · Post by **gottberg** » Mon Mar 02, 2015 9:44 am

Mort Rouge wrote:
gottberg wrote:@AAG + Mort Rouge - Are you suggesting the same thing?
Yes and no. Swedish people think alike (composition high five, AAG ), however, I'm specifically hinting at voltage accumulation. I'm planning to do a video demonstration later, but just writing a good, pedagogical script is a challenge .

I'm very curious about this voltage accumulation strategy of yours... a pedagogical video would be much appreciated!

pfaffenberg · Post by **pfaffenberg** » Mon Mar 02, 2015 11:57 am

+1 for the Flame Tame.

Only module I have never thought once of selling. Another's on the way lol

TechnoPrisoner · Post by **TechnoPrisoner** » Mon Mar 02, 2015 12:42 pm

for me is the Make Noise Teleplexer !!!!

FUN FUN FUN FUN FUN FUN !!!!!

euxine · Post by **euxine** » Mon Mar 02, 2015 12:51 pm

For you folks tipping hats to Matrix Mixers and S&H chains - do you think it's worth jumping right in, or waiting until you're solid with the rest of the rack?

I'm not new to synthesis theory, but still reeling at the number of combinations. Spent 4 hours with an envelope follower yesterday..

Mort Rouge · Post by **Mort Rouge** » Mon Mar 02, 2015 2:08 pm

euxine wrote:For you folks tipping hats to Matrix Mixers and S&H chains - do you think it's worth jumping right in, or waiting until you're solid with the rest of the rack?

I'm not new to synthesis theory, but still reeling at the number of combinations. Spent 4 hours with an envelope follower yesterday..

Well, that is a question you can keep on asking you forever, right

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Follow your interests. If you are curious about what an envelope follower can do, think about that and make patches in your head. If you are interested in S&H, think about that.

These things are best learnt driven by your own curiosity, one or two modules at a time! Even if you have lots of modules in your rack you haven't learned yet, if you are hungry for S&H, go for it and buy one. You will learn lots about your other modules in the process as well, because a S&H is really something you need to have other modules to work with, for apparent reasons (and this is also the pedagogical bonus of not buying multi-function modules like Maths or Noisebug - DIY!).

Please take my opinions with a grain of salt, I would hate to cause you any financial woes

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AAG · Post by **AAG** » Mon Mar 02, 2015 2:34 pm

euxine wrote:For you folks tipping hats to Matrix Mixers and S&H chains - do you think it's worth jumping right in, or waiting until you're solid with the rest of the rack?

I'm not new to synthesis theory, but still reeling at the number of combinations. Spent 4 hours with an envelope follower yesterday..

In my opinion a small, dual S&H module is part of a basic setup. Apart from tricky sequencing tricks and that stuff, it's useful as a random source together with a noise generator or for analog bit crushing. I'd get the new Ladik S&H or a used Doepfer S&H and start experimenting. These are affordable modules that can do a lot.

maudibe · Post by **maudibe** » Mon Mar 02, 2015 2:43 pm

OMG - deciding on one super-valuable module is hard. Most of my rig falls into this category!

The PEG is pretty unique and can go quite away to insert great rhythm.

The Disting is a Swiss Ary Knife of modules. Don't always use my two, but know that if I need a certain function they most likely have got it covered.

Finally, got to say the Brains, 2 * Pressure Points, 2 * Analog Memory plus big Doepfer voltage addressable switch has got to be the killer. Takes half a case, but fuck it is great

But I couldn't do anything without my Pam's Workout!

In conclusion, if you have a well worked out rig, then every module has its place - they are all great!

Demi Jon · Post by **Demi Jon** » Tue Mar 03, 2015 12:03 am

fac · Post by **fac** » Tue Mar 03, 2015 1:33 am

Ardcore for me. I have two Ardcores in my 80-space MU system and one in my 9U eurorack.

Like someone above said, I love modules that make the modular play itself, but among those my favorite is the Ardcore because I can program it to do lots of crazy stuff and when it becomes boring I just program it to do something else. Whatever it's doing, it's always something original.

nofuture · Post by **nofuture** » Tue Mar 03, 2015 6:21 am

Stackcable makes a huge difference in term of possibility and pleasure when patching. I also kill my bank accoubt to go full stackcable for my ~170U and it really makes a differences.

I think about S&H, because I've no trigger dependant random source ATM, just M4L random via Alyseum ms-812.

I also think about investing in some logic modules to create self evolutive patch but not the financial priority for my eurorack ATM.

Post by **Joe.** » Tue Mar 03, 2015 6:27 am

nofuture wrote:my ~170U

euxine · Post by **euxine** » Tue Mar 03, 2015 7:35 am

@AAG & Mort Rouge - thanks as always for great responses! You both rock.

flo · Post by **flo** » Tue Mar 03, 2015 8:56 am

No S/H in 170U?

silkynight · Post by **silkynight** » Tue Mar 03, 2015 9:20 am

Demi Jon wrote:

TOtally and absolutely

i would also had a Triatt. 8_)

nofuture · Post by **nofuture** » Tue Mar 03, 2015 2:51 pm

Wahh,, I'm really tired these times...

I meant 170 HP ...

Is this even possible to be enough rich and crazy to have 170 U of euroCrack ?

flo · Post by **flo** » Tue Mar 03, 2015 3:49 pm

I'm not sure I was entirely serious

Mort Rouge · Post by **Mort Rouge** » Tue Mar 03, 2015 4:01 pm

euxine wrote:@AAG & Mort Rouge - thanks as always for great responses! You both rock.

Thank you

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nofuture wrote:Is this even possible to be enough rich and crazy to have 170 U of euroCrack ?

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AAG · Post by **AAG** » Tue Mar 03, 2015 4:32 pm

euxine wrote:@AAG & Mort Rouge - thanks as always for great responses! You both rock.

Thank you for the kind words.

anderson303 · Post by **anderson303** » Tue Mar 03, 2015 4:48 pm

fac wrote:Ardcore for me. I have two Ardcores in my 80-space MU system and one in my 9U eurorack. .

Are programming this yourself in arduino?

EDIT: I looked at the module before I read the rest of your post... That must be awesome, programming your own modules, anytime you feel like it

Dogma · Post by **Dogma** » Tue Mar 03, 2015 5:19 pm

I want an ardcore but Im wondering if the abbey rd one might be better to dip my toes into

I swear if someone made a module that could be a number of different things - so disting, ardcore, ect but with the a visual building block programming language so in fact all the plumbing would be in the background so when inspiration strikes you can QUICKLY AND EASILY pull up a quad LFO or sequencer ect....

anderson303 · Post by **anderson303** » Wed Mar 04, 2015 1:19 am

I've listened to all of your modules and as unique and impressive as they all are in their own way, they seem pretty personal. To answer my original question if I dare so myself, and after 2 weeks with my 13 modules, it would seem that the answer is not one module but many MORE. More modules will take my system to the (un)limit. I need more VCAs for sure, I think I might need more cables, I have enough VCOs and LFOs (for now) but I need more VCFs and more of everything else basically. More space, more racks... I need more discretionary funds to take my system to the (in)limit.

But please keep the suggestions coming, with 2500+ out there, it's great finding the cream of the crop.

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What one module really takes your system to the limit