ben_hex wrote:Patching the livewire AFG into the malekko Borg 2 filter and twiddling the cut off knob. Hooked since.
Ha I was actually going to post nearly the exact same thing... I had a tiny modular and was enjoying playing with it but not really getting what I wanted from it... I added an afg and it was a lot better but still wasn't quite what I wanted... It was fun but didn't really sound as good as some of my other synths. Added a Borg 2 and .mix and suddenly everything that came out of the thing sounded amazing. That was the day I was sold on modulars and sold almost all of my other synth junk.
It's no strictly modular but my ah-ha moment was when I realized I did not need to create recordings for others to truly get the most out of my equipment investment. As long as I enjoyed the journey and the sounds created along the way, it was worth every penny.
Modular really pushed this to the next level. I discovered sound design is truly where it's at for me and the ability to modulate the sounds to such an extent provided entertainment with virtual no boundaries.
stike wrote:Wow - just reading all these - so many things to look forward to.
I'm looking forward to a lot of these things too.
I'm pretty new, so most of my ah-ha moments have been while reading through the Maths illustrated patch manual
evileye0702 wrote:It's no strictly modular but my ah-ha moment was when I realized I did not need to create recordings for others to truly get the most out of my equipment investment. As long as I enjoyed the journey and the sounds created along the way, it was worth every penny.
Modular really pushed this to the next level. I discovered sound design is truly where it's at for me and the ability to modulate the sounds to such an extent provided entertainment with virtual no boundaries.
Good point! And the "righteous" way, I would agree!
My biggest a-ha so far has been - I usually end up making the most interesting sounding stuff when I sit down to play/toy around with the modular, more than think "now I'm going to make a track". A vague idea or trying to capture a feeling or simply experimenting with a small part of the modular will usually snowball into something more interesting. If I sit down and think "now, I'm going to be make a good track", it'll usually turn out really bland and dull.
Soundifferent wrote:...when I discovered logic modules!
Then, some years later, when I got my PLOG and used it with audio sources!
My interest is peaked! I am borrowing a spock, wonder if similar -ness can be acheived
The logic changes at audio rate are what the PLOG does so well. The Spock module is a good but rather straight forward logic module. I use both but the PLOG is the real treat for audio rate modulation.
Here is an example with a Pressure Points...
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I guess an epiphany for me was learning to do with just multiple oscillators in sync and ring modulators. Weaning off the filter teat was painful but enlightening.
Soundifferent wrote:...when I discovered logic modules!
Then, some years later, when I got my PLOG and used it with audio sources!
My interest is peaked! I am borrowing a spock, wonder if similar -ness can be acheived
The logic changes at audio rate are what the PLOG does so well. The Spock module is a good but rather straight forward logic module. I use both but the PLOG is the real treat for audio rate modulation.
Here is an example with a Pressure Points...
[video][/video]
I guess an epiphany for me was learning to do with just multiple oscillators in sync and ring modulators. Weaning off the filter teat was painful but enlightening.
Only been in the game for a few weeks (and only got my first osc on thursday), but so far I've been hit with a hard case of "uh-huh, this is gonna get WAY costy, WAY fast" Also pretty sure I've made the right desicion, this satisfies my dual interest in making music and experimenting excellently
I don't know if I've had many specific moments but I have found modular to be a real learning experience and the types of modules have changed a great deal as my system has grown.
One of my first realisations was modulating a single input signal with an LFO through any type of module tends to have a signature sound that you soon get fed up with. I got a synth with 3 oscillators and started using them as modulators.
At that point my modular became a synth rather than as FX box that it started as. I then realised just how powerful modular oscillators are.
I like the warm analogue sound but I found myself wanting to go further. I discovered The Harvestman and other aggressive modules.
I discovered voltage controlled mixing for creating highly complex sounds.
I added a sequencer but I still don't use it. I did however discover the possibilities of sequencers for rhythm and using logic for modifying them. I've also added a couple of generative modules, also for rhythm.
I'm still discovering things, I don't expect I'll ever stop.
I have managed to figure out some general things about modulars:
- Some modules are complex so read the manual.
- Some manuals are incomplete so also read threads here!
- You can use anything as a modulation source.
- You can manipulate modulation sources.
- You can modulate anything with any of those modulation sources.
- You can do unexpected things - feed an LFO into an input and use the signal as modulation.
- Many modules are sensitive to input levels, this is especially so of filters.
- You don't have to use filters in the traditional subtractive way, you can use them to clean, enhance or dirty signals.
evileye0702 wrote:It's no strictly modular but my ah-ha moment was when I realized I did not need to create recordings for others to truly get the most out of my equipment investment. As long as I enjoyed the journey and the sounds created along the way, it was worth every penny.
Modular really pushed this to the next level. I discovered sound design is truly where it's at for me and the ability to modulate the sounds to such an extent provided entertainment with virtual no boundaries.
Good point! And the "righteous" way, I would agree!
My biggest a-ha so far has been - I usually end up making the most interesting sounding stuff when I sit down to play/toy around with the modular, more than think "now I'm going to make a track". A vague idea or trying to capture a feeling or simply experimenting with a small part of the modular will usually snowball into something more interesting. If I sit down and think "now, I'm going to be make a good track", it'll usually turn out really bland and dull.
Been well inspired by this thread.
Won't go into too many details of the patch playing at the mo, but the most bizarre sections are a e560 delay from a short decay from a osc. opening up a Borg filter that was being fed by a e350 that is being lightly morphed by a Jupiter Storm.
Another part of the patch had me finally using the band pass of a Erica Polivoks to trigger a kick from a Vermona DRMiii, very fast and rhythmical.
Other outs from the Jupiter Storm are controlling other sections of the patch including rotate and skip of a SCM.
So yeah, great thread to help me think well of the box. Loving the sound of this patch.
Soundifferent wrote:...when I discovered logic modules!
Then, some years later, when I got my PLOG and used it with audio sources!
My interest is peaked! I am borrowing a spock, wonder if similar -ness can be acheived
The logic changes at audio rate are what the PLOG does so well. The Spock module is a good but rather straight forward logic module. I use both but the PLOG is the real treat for audio rate modulation.
Here is an example with a Pressure Points...
I guess an epiphany for me was learning to do with just multiple oscillators in sync and ring modulators. Weaning off the filter teat was painful but enlightening.
Man, that is amazing! Sounds so close to a bowed double-bass and then nothing like it. Great stuff!
Feeding the Quantimator with a melody then send the 3 pitch outputs to different sound sources and then in turn feed them random related triggers from the Zularic Repeatitor or Grids. Result is a harmonious, rhythmic symphony! Aha moment for me..
Wracked with Guilt wrote:I very quickly patched the AFG’s Animated Pulse & Alien Saw waveforms into a pair of A-124 Wasp filters and set the outputs to a mixer then to the TipTop Z5000 with a long reverb, then randomly patched in a bunch of slow LFOs into the AFG’s inputs. Total noobiness. Imagine my surprise when all of a sudden this immense glacial drone emerged out of nowhere. I was completely blown away with the AFG - my "Ah Hah!" moment. I quickly fired up the laptop and recorded my first wiggle into Reaper - it distorted a bit but I was so proud I ended up putting it on YouTube, bless.
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me like a lot it took me in and drove me arround.. dig the video too.
btw how did you achieve parts heard beyond the main drone that have overlapping long release notes with subtle hints of melody... almost as if its someting polyphonic. was it just overdub or something else?
thanks
kindredlost wrote:The logic changes at audio rate are what the PLOG does so well. The Spock module is a good but rather straight forward logic module. I use both but the PLOG is the real treat for audio rate modulation.
[video][/video]
wheew this sounds like a cello playing legato and tremolo, sul de pont - with all the harmonics coming out. i am AMAZED.
it took me in and drove me arround.. dig the video too.