Video: Tony Horsman's Shumovik 2 composer/performance system

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Video: Tony Horsman's Shumovik 2 composer/performance system

Post by RichyHo » Mon Sep 15, 2014 6:19 am

This is something my Dad (Tony Horsman) has been working on for months. It's an automated composition and performance system using an Arduino and a whole load of Doepfer modules. He calls it the Shumovik II.

He'd really appreciate any comments and feedback you may have and would be more than happy to answer any questions (via me as he's not a member here..... yet ;-).

I only had time to record this on my phone so apologies that the sound isn't as hi-fi as it should've been to do this thing justice

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Post by ben_hex » Mon Sep 15, 2014 6:22 am

What exactly do you mean by automated composition and performance system?

Something that generates it's only pitch/gate information (composition, thinking in terms of melody, intervals, rhythm etc) and also CV information for tonal changes, routing changing switching etc?
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Post by Summa » Mon Sep 15, 2014 6:26 am

How cool is your dad? I love it! Please tell us more! :tu: :yay:

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Post by RichyHo » Mon Sep 15, 2014 6:37 am

I'm trying to convince him to get an account here so he can better answer your questions and respond to your comments. I've only spent half an hour watching and listening to the output of his system so wouldn't really be doing it or him justice by second-guessing how it all works!

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Post by Riggar » Mon Sep 15, 2014 6:39 am

Yes - tell us about the big plastic box in the middle!

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Post by ETP » Mon Sep 15, 2014 6:41 am

HahaHA your dad´s a crazy wiggler. i don´t know what´s going on here, but looks interesting. what do the amperemeters? what does the computer?

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Post by RichyHo » Mon Sep 15, 2014 6:50 am

I've just phoned him and he's going to set up an account here on Muffs tonight. :tu:

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Post by bkinsman » Mon Sep 15, 2014 7:21 am

Wow, that was amazing.
Beautiful work!
What was the lead-ish sound?

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Post by TonyHo » Mon Sep 15, 2014 7:40 am

ben_hex wrote:What exactly do you mean by automated composition and performance system?

Something that generates it's only pitch/gate information (composition, thinking in terms of melody, intervals, rhythm etc) and also CV information for tonal changes, routing changing switching etc?
By automated composition I mean that in each piece all the notes played (and their durations) are determined using stochastic algorithms in the Arduino code.

By automated performance I mean that once a note and its duration have been determined, the Arduino sends out the required signals to the synth modules to generate it. So each piece is performed as it is composed, one note or group of notes at a time.

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Post by TonyHo » Mon Sep 15, 2014 7:57 am

ETP wrote:HahaHA your dad´s a crazy wiggler. i don´t know what´s going on here, but looks interesting. what do the amperemeters? what does the computer?
For the middle one-third of each piece, the Arduino switches on a signal that goes to the transpose input to the two quantisers. That signal is time-variant, and (for example) its slew rate is modulated randomly.

The two meters helped me to set up this part of the patch, with the one on the right now providing a live display of the signal routed to the transpose inputs.

The Arduino Mega computer supplies gate and pulse output signals to the synthesiser. It does not generate any CV signals whatsoever. It also drives the VGA display. CVs, including all pitch CVs, are all sourced from synth modules.

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Post by TonyHo » Mon Sep 15, 2014 8:06 am

bkinsman wrote:Wow, that was amazing.
Beautiful work!
What was the lead-ish sound?
The lead-ish sound is a simple sawtooth with a touch of vibrato and chorus+reverb. Fairly slow attack and decay, with long release give it an expressive feel. There is no between-note variation in amplitude.

I spent quite a while adjusting envelope timing and sustain level, listening to the result in the context of the other sounds.

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Post by bkinsman » Mon Sep 15, 2014 8:10 am

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Great work tony, looking forward to hearing what else you can make thing do!

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Post by RichyHo » Mon Sep 15, 2014 4:01 pm

I'll duck out now and let my Dad find his feet (and hopefully some new, like-minded friends) on Muffs.

:cat2: Cheers!

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Post by Daisuk » Mon Sep 15, 2014 5:40 pm

Damn. That's pretty impressive. I'd love to hear and see more. :yay:

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Post by Dcramer » Mon Sep 15, 2014 11:26 pm

Wow :hail:

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Post by ignatius » Mon Sep 15, 2014 11:46 pm

this is rad!

enjoying the sounds and tunes.. would love to hear some line level recordings of this thing.

nice project.. well done. i think it's great.

also would love to hear evolutions of this whenever that happens.

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Post by paperCUT » Tue Sep 16, 2014 2:25 am

That looks insane Tony, very nicely done :nana:

More recordings please!

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Post by RichyHo » Tue Sep 16, 2014 4:25 am

TonyHo wrote:One piece from a sequence of several, as recorded live.
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Post by funkyjunky » Tue Sep 16, 2014 6:21 am

btw, "SHUMOVIK" is a russian word which means
1) a specialist who is doing a sound design for movies and films, the nearest translation to english is "foley artist" -
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foley_(filmmaking)
2) the word SHUM - translates directly as NOISE and the ending OVIK makes it sound fancy with regard to a person who makes NOISE :) so the direct nearest translation to english is NOISINESSMAN :bananaguitar:

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Post by TonyHo » Tue Sep 16, 2014 8:19 am

funkyjunky wrote:btw, "SHUMOVIK" is a russian word which means
1) a specialist who is doing a sound design for movies and films, the nearest translation to english is "foley artist" -
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foley_(filmmaking)
2) the word SHUM - translates directly as NOISE and the ending OVIK makes it sound fancy with regard to a person who makes NOISE :) so the direct nearest translation to english is NOISINESSMAN :bananaguitar:
There is a very extensive and detailed textbook you might enjoy entitled 'Sound in Z - experiments in sound and electronic music in early 20th century Russia' by Andrey Smirnov. The term 'shumovik' is introduced there, in context. The joint publishers are Sound and Music, London and Koenig Books, London 2013.

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Post by DiscarnateEntity » Tue Sep 16, 2014 4:55 pm

That is outstanding work, Tony!

Are you planning to make this system commercially available and, if so, how soon? :hyper:

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Post by windspirit » Tue Sep 16, 2014 5:05 pm

DiscarnateEntity wrote:That is outstanding work, Tony!

Are you planning to make this system commercially available and, if so, how soon? :hyper:
A system that algorithmically creates weird space sounds? Where on earth are we going to find something like that?

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Post by Electrostatic » Tue Sep 16, 2014 5:07 pm

That's a wonderful piece of music Tony. Thank you.

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Post by TonyHo » Wed Sep 17, 2014 2:42 am

DiscarnateEntity wrote:That is outstanding work, Tony!

Are you planning to make this system commercially available and, if so, how soon? :hyper:
Sorry, but no. However if you or anyone else wants to make something similar, perhaps on a smaller scale at first, I would be pleased to offer advice and guidance, particularly with the concepts implemented in the software.

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