NEW Moog style designed filter modules in Euro

DivKid · Post by **DivKid** » Sat Mar 22, 2014 11:18 am

Dcramer wrote: Long live Livewire!

What made you say that?

lightworks · Post by **lightworks** » Sat Mar 22, 2014 11:48 am

anselmi wrote:
lightworks wrote:We are using SMT and through-hole components. The through-hole parts were used where we think is necessary.
interesting

are the through-hole components the ones that are critical for the sound?

We keeped the capacitors on the filter section through-hole, we will be using the same capacitors Kazike uses for the COTK's C904, this way we know what to expect from them.
I'm sure good SMT caps could have been found but we decided to stick with what we already know is good.

sloth713 wrote:I like this.

What level of cv voltages will it handle -5v to +5v or -10V to +10V?

I'll have to inquire Kazike about this on monday, but i'm running mine with doepfer LFO's (+5/-5

) and it's all good

All the best,
Ruben

Nuuj · Post by **Nuuj** » Sat Mar 22, 2014 11:54 am

felixer wrote:
jc3music wrote:Without the Moog logo it will always be just another clone, with some people praising it and others dissing it. My Voyager XL sits right under my monster case for this reason, it's semi-modular and un-deniably Moog.
i do hope you are not suggesting that the voyager (or any other newer moog product) sounds like an old modular. even an old mini sounds different ... not better or worse: that's a matter of taste/application. just different.
if these modules really nail that original character (and knowing now who's behind this there just might be a chance) i guess some folks will love 'm 8_)

re-other modules: looking thru the cotk list some some cv modules like the ratchet sq, arabesque, euclidian bi-clock sq, clock denominator etc strike me as interesting. maybe because those are not clones, but the product of some creative thinking

On the one hand it would make most sense to do all the basic modules first so that people who want an all Moog style synth voice in Euro can have one, on the other hand many Euro users have zero interest in sounding Moog like, so the most esoteric modules would perhaps be interesting to a larger audience.

Myself, I'm only interested in the more esoteric COTK modules.
It took me several days to even read this topic.
So my vote would be to focus on the COTK modules which have features or functions not yet available in Euro.

ferran · Post by **ferran** » Sat Mar 22, 2014 12:03 pm

Oh no, Moog again, next to beards will be this

phutureboy · Post by **phutureboy** » Sat Mar 22, 2014 1:18 pm

ben_hex wrote:
unease wrote:I'm surprised this hasn't been done before!
Same here, you'd think this had been done to death already. There's definitely people after that sound if it captures it.

Well, it HAS been done before many times, only never esthetically...

exper · Post by **exper** » Sat Mar 22, 2014 1:29 pm

felixer wrote: re-other modules: looking thru the cotk list some some cv modules like the ratchet sq, arabesque, euclidian bi-clock sq, clock denominator etc strike me as interesting. maybe because those are not clones, but the product of some creative thinking

Fully agree. We don't need more of the same things. Plenty of oscillators, filters and envelopes out there. That ratchet thing looks great! Freq shifter, scope, etc. All things that are needed.

And don't worry about alum. panels. I'm sure grayscale will be more than happy to sell some for us OCD peeps.

Mefistophelees · Post by **Mefistophelees** » Sat Apr 19, 2014 5:13 pm

I see there are some sound examples up of the LP filter.

http://aion-modular.com/www.aion-modula ... /12_1.html

It sounds good. I'd like to hear more.

My SE-1 can do this incredibly deep resonant sound that I have a very hard time recreating on anything else. IIRC the SE-1 filter is similar-ish to the Moog modulars so I think the 904A should be able to do the same sound.

lvoemachine · Post by **lvoemachine** » Sat Apr 19, 2014 5:43 pm

you guys should move those jacks down to give the knobs more space. it looks like everythings jammed in the middle of the panel. cool idea though.

jfloftin · Post by **jfloftin** » Sun Apr 20, 2014 6:47 am

Mefistophelees wrote:I see there are some sound examples up of the LP filter.

http://aion-modular.com/www.aion-modula ... /12_1.html

It sounds good. I'd like to hear more.

I agree. Can't wait to get this one! Been waiting for a clone of the 904a for a while.

anselmi · Post by **anselmi** » Sun Apr 20, 2014 7:46 am

ferran wrote:Oh no, Moog again, next to beards will be this

exper wrote:Fully agree. We don't need more of the same things. Plenty of oscillators, filters and envelopes out there.

another LPG or dual "complex oscillator" are great, no matter if there is already a lot of them, but a Moog-like filter appears and people complains?

exper · Post by **exper** » Sun Apr 20, 2014 8:40 am

well, I'm still waiting on a good LPG tbh! As for complex oscs, most of them are very different from each other. However, my statement was more about the fact that cotk has some unique 5u modules that don't exist in euro, and it'd be cool to release those. I am of course aware that there are those always chasing after a 'moog' filter.

anselmi · Post by **anselmi** » Sun Apr 20, 2014 9:13 am

exper wrote: well, I'm still waiting on a good LPG tbh! As for complex oscs, most of them are very different from each other. However, my statement was more about the fact that cotk has some unique 5u modules that don't exist in euro, and it'd be cool to release those. I am of course aware that there are those always chasing after a 'moog' filter.

I agree about the other COTK modules...there is a sequencer that seems to be very interested

About a Moog filter in euro Ithink the fact that itÃ‚Â´s modular opens up a whole new world of sounds by combining it with other stuff...theyÃ‚Â´re so many ways of using it instead of make a mini bass or lead that itÃ‚Â´s just another flavor

unease · Post by **unease** » Sun Apr 20, 2014 11:22 am

There have been numerous threads with people wondering how to get 'that Moog sound' in Euro and the conclusion has mostly been that you should go 5U for that (or MacBeth which is crazy expensive). So I definitely think there is a market for these modules! Novel? Not really, but probably just what many are looking for.

Thonk Support · Post by **Thonk Support** » Sun Apr 20, 2014 11:50 am

It doesn't make sense to me, from an ergonomic point of view, to duplicate the layouts for Euro. Give the knobs more space. Would like to see at least one of the CV inputs with an attenuator too.

bkbirge · Post by **bkbirge** » Sun Apr 20, 2014 3:13 pm

I think the filter sounds exist in euro already from several manufacturers, MFB, Doepfer, Macbeth, etc. but there is something to be said for exact(ish) clones of the old Moog modular as well as the ergonomics. I suspect these would sell pretty well.

Thonk Support · Post by **Thonk Support** » Mon Apr 21, 2014 3:27 am

anthropometrics don't scale though

jorsteinwiener · Post by **jorsteinwiener** » Sat May 17, 2014 9:18 pm

I think the picture on their homepage has recently been changed and now it says "in stock" instead of "coming soon". Anybody knows something?

dmod · Post by **dmod** » Sun May 18, 2014 3:59 am

If it sounds like a re al 904 I am in!

JohnLRice · Post by **JohnLRice** » Sun May 18, 2014 5:57 am

dmod wrote:If it sounds like a re al 904 I am in!

The two sound samples on their site sound pretty convincing I think.

http://www.aion-modular.com/www.aion-mo ... MPLES.html

felixer · Post by **felixer** » Sun May 18, 2014 5:59 am

jfloftin wrote:
Mefistophelees wrote:
It sounds good. I'd like to hear more.

I agree.

+1

but i don't see an orderpage/onlineshop. only selling thru dealers? any mention of a price yet?
thinking about building a small drone system. this could fit in nicely 8_)

JohnLRice · Post by **JohnLRice** » Sun May 18, 2014 6:21 am

felixer wrote:
jfloftin wrote:
Mefistophelees wrote:
It sounds good. I'd like to hear more.

I agree.
+1 but i don't see an orderpage/onlineshop. only selling thru dealers? any mention of a price yet?
thinking about building a small drone system. this could fit in nicely 8_)

I'll guess they are only selling direct? Since Aion Modular is partially or completely run by Kazike of COTK (I don't know the details but there is a strong connection) I'll bet they do sales the same way, just email them at info@aion-modular.com and ask about availability and price etc. Then, if they actually do things the same as COTK they will send you a proforma invoice and then ship your module(s) once you've paid. You can read about COTK sales method here: http://www.cluboftheknobs.com/buy.html

jvt · Post by **jvt** » Sun May 18, 2014 1:44 pm

Right now messages to info@aion-modular.com are bouncing.

dmod · Post by **dmod** » Sun May 18, 2014 1:52 pm

Man I would love that in euro but alas I will have to be patient until they get the ball rolling. From this thread seems it like they are not quite there yet

JohnLRice · Post by **JohnLRice** » Sun May 18, 2014 1:58 pm

jvt wrote:Right now messages to info@aion-modular.com are bouncing.

Confirmed, I just sent a test and it bounced right away:

Hi. This is the qmail-send program at server275.com.
I'm afraid I wasn't able to deliver your message to the following addresses.
This is a permanent error; I've given up. Sorry it didn't work out.

<info@aion-modular.com>:
This message is looping: it already has my Delivered-To line. (#5.4.6)

lightworks · Post by **lightworks** » Sun May 18, 2014 2:41 pm

Hi

Thank you for your intrest!
We are experincing some problems with our email addres but i belive we are receiving all emails.
Everyone how emailed us will be contacted soon.

We were not expecting so much interest, so we'll probably not be able to provid everyone that contacted us with a module. But we are already coocking a new batch

All the best,
Ruben

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NEW Moog style designed filter modules in Euro