How to access the Disting Ex web editor

[doctorupdonk]

Ah i understand ;-) was using an old link
thanks as always

[walmik]

I updated to the latest dex preset editor html and am using firmware v1.20. It didnt solve the problem I was facing (no sysex from my Motu Ultralite, but I do see one minor improvement. For example if I m in single mode on the Disting Ex, clicking on "Enter Dual Mode" actually switches the disting ex to a dual mode. Wish I could get more functionality working. On my computer I think the MIDI message i get back is not what the preset editor expects. For example, I never cross this block of code:
https://github.com/expertsleepersltd/di ... #L957-L961

If it helps, here is a sample of the message.data alonside the hardcoded header:

data: Uint8Array(3) [224, 18, 35, buffer: ArrayBuffer(3), byteLength: 3, byteOffset: 0, length: 3, Symbol(Symbol.toStringTag): 'Uint8Array']
header: (6) [240, 0, 33, 39, 93, '0']

Lastly, could it be possible that I may not have connected the MIDI expander properly and hence not getting Sysex from the Disting back to my computer?

[walmik]

Ah i understand ;-) was using an old link
thanks as always

May i know how you solved this issue. I get the same issue as you reported earlier when I try G8 CV/Midi to send Midi data from the disting to my DAW. I m using firmware v1.20 and am using the latest dex editor from here https://github.com/expertsleepersltd/distingEX_tools

[os]

If it helps, here is a sample of the message.data alonside the hardcoded header:

That's a pitch bend message. What is sending your computer a pitch bend?

Lastly, could it be possible that I may not have connected the MIDI expander properly and hence not getting Sysex from the Disting back to my computer?

If it's not connected properly you'll get no MIDI at all.

[walmik]

Apologies for the delay in responding here. I m pasting the entire dump here for your perusal. Basically, onMIDIMessage is triggered a whole bunch of times when I click refresh. I do have 2 more MIDI devices (Keystep Pro and Bass Station 2) however these are turned off at the moment. Hence not sure what sends the pitch bend. Could it be from a previous session where i had used the Keystep Pro to play the Poly wavetable algorithm?

The attached image doesnt show the first message, it has this array
[240, 0, 9, 247]

Could the 240 here imply sys ex? Just based off of this page https://fmslogo.sourceforge.io/manual/midi-table.html

[os]

Well that's just garbage. Is the disting EX the only thing connected to the MIDI port?

Could you run a MIDI monitor (e.g. this if you're on macOS: https://www.snoize.com/midimonitor/) and see what that says the incoming messages are?

Did you run the 'test MIDI out' test on the EX?

[walmik]

Hello os, The only thing connect to the Disting Ex MIDI breakout is MIDI in and out from my Motu Ultralite Mk3. I installed the Midi Monitor and ran the Midi out test from the Ex. This is what I got before exiting the test

18:10:00.215 From UltraLite mk3 MIDI Port Control 1 Bank Select 1
18:10:00.220 From UltraLite mk3 MIDI Port Stop
18:10:00.713 From UltraLite mk3 MIDI Port Control 1 Data Increment 0
18:10:00.713 From UltraLite mk3 MIDI Port Clock
18:10:01.212 From UltraLite mk3 MIDI Port Control 1 Controller 9 96
18:10:01.216 From UltraLite mk3 MIDI Port Control 1 Bank Select 17
18:10:01.216 From UltraLite mk3 MIDI Port Stop
18:10:01.713 From UltraLite mk3 MIDI Port Control 1 Bank Select 25
18:10:01.713 From UltraLite mk3 MIDI Port Stop
18:10:02.214 From UltraLite mk3 MIDI Port Control 1 Bank Select 17
18:10:02.214 From UltraLite mk3 MIDI Port Stop
18:10:02.713 From UltraLite mk3 MIDI Port Control 1 Bank Select 21
18:10:02.713 From UltraLite mk3 MIDI Port Stop
18:10:03.212 From UltraLite mk3 MIDI Port Control 1 Bank Select 25
18:10:03.212 From UltraLite mk3 MIDI Port Stop
18:10:03.712 From UltraLite mk3 MIDI Port Control 1 Data Increment 3
18:10:04.213 From UltraLite mk3 MIDI Port Pitch Wheel 1 -7712
18:10:04.718 From UltraLite mk3 MIDI Port Program 2 97
18:10:04.719 From UltraLite mk3 MIDI Port Program 2 1
18:10:04.719 From UltraLite mk3 MIDI Port Clock
18:10:05.212 From UltraLite mk3 MIDI Port Note Off 10 C6 0
18:10:05.213 From UltraLite mk3 MIDI Port Stop
18:10:05.714 From UltraLite mk3 MIDI Port Control 1 Bank Select 89
18:10:05.714 From UltraLite mk3 MIDI Port Stop
18:10:06.214 From UltraLite mk3 MIDI Port Control 1 Bank Select 49
18:10:06.214 From UltraLite mk3 MIDI Port Stop
18:10:06.713 From UltraLite mk3 MIDI Port Control 1 Bank Select 53
18:10:06.713 From UltraLite mk3 MIDI Port Stop
18:10:07.212 From UltraLite mk3 MIDI Port Control 1 Bank Select 57
18:10:07.212 From UltraLite mk3 MIDI Port Stop
18:10:07.712 From UltraLite mk3 MIDI Port Control 1 Data Increment 3
18:10:08.212 From UltraLite mk3 MIDI Port SysEx Unknown Manufacturer 5 bytes F0 60 03 08 F7
18:10:08.713 From UltraLite mk3 MIDI Port Program 3 97
18:10:08.713 From UltraLite mk3 MIDI Port Program 3 1
18:10:08.713 From UltraLite mk3 MIDI Port Program 3 10
18:10:08.713 From UltraLite mk3 MIDI Port Stop
18:10:09.212 From UltraLite mk3 MIDI Port Stop
18:10:09.712 From UltraLite mk3 MIDI Port Control 1 Bank Select 77
18:10:10.214 From UltraLite mk3 MIDI Port Control 1 Bank Select 81
18:10:10.214 From UltraLite mk3 MIDI Port Stop
18:10:10.712 From UltraLite mk3 MIDI Port Control 1 Bank Select 85
18:10:10.712 From UltraLite mk3 MIDI Port Stop
18:10:11.213 From UltraLite mk3 MIDI Port Control 1 Data Increment 3
18:10:11.713 From UltraLite mk3 MIDI Port Program 3 97
18:10:11.713 From UltraLite mk3 MIDI Port Program 3 4
18:10:11.713 From UltraLite mk3 MIDI Port Program 3 117
18:10:12.213 From UltraLite mk3 MIDI Port Pitch Wheel 2 -7712
18:10:12.712 From UltraLite mk3 MIDI Port Pitch Wheel 4 -8096
18:10:12.732 From UltraLite mk3 MIDI Port Stop
18:10:13.214 From UltraLite mk3 MIDI Port Stop

[os]

That, sadly, is all wrong. There would appear to be an incompatibility between the two - or something is broken.

How confident are you of your MIDI cables?

[walmik]

I think the midi cables might be fine however I don’t mind trying something out to better assert this. I have 3 midi cables at home and they seem to send midi to the ex correctly (I can play the poly wave table algorithm)

As for something being broken, could I have inadvertently broken something? I did have this post back when I bought the breakout for my second ex and might ve messed something https://www.modwiggler.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=268596

[os]

Anything you might have done is more likely to stop it working altogether. It seems like the Ultralite is recognising that MIDI is being sent, but it's not receiving it correctly.

I don't suppose you have any other MIDI devices you could try?

[walmik]

I do have a key step pro and a bass station 2. These have the midi din in/out ports and connect to my computer via USB. Could I use either of those? I also have another ex.

[os]

You could try. I don't know off hand if either of those would pass MIDI from its DIN input to the USB port, but it might.

[walmik]

I will give it a shot, In the mean time, I am not sure what I did exactly, but i changed the cable around and could see something execute that I hadnt seen before. And that is thia line https://github.com/expertsleepersltd/di ... .html#L962

Sample:
4:31:07 AM: sent mapping request to disting EX
4:31:07 AM: received sysex (4 bytes)
4:31:07 AM: received sysex (4 bytes)
4:31:07 AM: received sysex (2 bytes)
4:31:08 AM: received sysex (2 bytes)

Nothing else improved, but just these ^ logs started showing up on hitting the refresh button or the Show MIDI or knob mappings checkboxes, in the editor web page hence I took another dump from the midi monitor in case it helps to see if anything has changed from before

04:34:43.237 From UltraLite mk3 MIDI Port Control 1 Bank Select 1
04:34:43.237 From UltraLite mk3 MIDI Port Stop
04:34:43.737 From UltraLite mk3 MIDI Port Control 1 Data Increment 3
04:34:44.237 From UltraLite mk3 MIDI Port Pitch Wheel 1 -8096
04:34:44.241 From UltraLite mk3 MIDI Port Clock
04:34:44.737 From UltraLite mk3 MIDI Port Pitch Wheel 1 4113
04:34:44.741 From UltraLite mk3 MIDI Port Pitch Wheel 1 5123
04:34:45.237 From UltraLite mk3 MIDI Port Pitch Wheel 1 -7712
04:34:45.737 From UltraLite mk3 MIDI Port Pitch Wheel 1 -7712
04:34:46.238 From UltraLite mk3 MIDI Port Pitch Wheel 1 -7712
04:34:46.738 From UltraLite mk3 MIDI Port Control 1 Bank Select 29
04:34:46.738 From UltraLite mk3 MIDI Port Stop
04:34:47.237 From UltraLite mk3 MIDI Port Control 1 Data Increment 3
04:34:47.737 From UltraLite mk3 MIDI Port Control 1 Bank Select 73
04:34:47.737 From UltraLite mk3 MIDI Port Clock
04:34:48.238 From UltraLite mk3 MIDI Port Control 1 Data Increment 3
04:34:48.737 From UltraLite mk3 MIDI Port Control 1 Bank Select 89
04:34:48.746 From UltraLite mk3 MIDI Port Clock
04:34:49.237 From UltraLite mk3 MIDI Port Control 1 Data Increment 3
04:34:49.737 From UltraLite mk3 MIDI Port SysEx Unknown Manufacturer 4 bytes F0 60 00 F7
04:34:50.237 From UltraLite mk3 MIDI Port SysEx Unknown Manufacturer 4 bytes F0 60 03 F7
04:34:50.738 From UltraLite mk3 MIDI Port Clock
04:34:51.238 From UltraLite mk3 MIDI Port SysEx Unknown Manufacturer 8 bytes F0 60 00 79 60 03 08 F7
04:34:51.736 From UltraLite mk3 MIDI Port Program 3 97
04:34:51.747 From UltraLite mk3 MIDI Port Program 3 4
04:34:51.747 From UltraLite mk3 MIDI Port Program 3 73
04:34:52.239 From UltraLite mk3 MIDI Port Clock
04:34:52.736 From UltraLite mk3 MIDI Port Note Off 10 C6 3
04:34:53.237 From UltraLite mk3 MIDI Port Control 1 Bank Select 81
04:34:53.250 From UltraLite mk3 MIDI Port Stop
04:34:53.737 From UltraLite mk3 MIDI Port Control 1 Data Increment 3
04:34:53.737 From UltraLite mk3 MIDI Port Control 1 Release Time 9
04:34:54.239 From UltraLite mk3 MIDI Port Clock
04:34:54.737 From UltraLite mk3 MIDI Port Control 2 Data Increment 3
04:34:55.236 From UltraLite mk3 MIDI Port Program 3 97
04:34:55.250 From UltraLite mk3 MIDI Port Program 3 1
04:34:55.250 From UltraLite mk3 MIDI Port Clock
04:34:55.736 From UltraLite mk3 MIDI Port Program 2 97
04:34:55.736 From UltraLite mk3 MIDI Port Program 2 4
04:34:55.752 From UltraLite mk3 MIDI Port Program 2 41
04:34:56.237 From UltraLite mk3 MIDI Port Program 4 97
04:34:56.237 From UltraLite mk3 MIDI Port Program 4 1
04:34:56.255 From UltraLite mk3 MIDI Port Clock
04:34:56.737 From UltraLite mk3 MIDI Port Note On 2 C6 3
04:34:57.237 From UltraLite mk3 MIDI Port Program 4 97
04:34:57.237 From UltraLite mk3 MIDI Port Program 4 4
04:34:57.237 From UltraLite mk3 MIDI Port Program 4 9
04:34:57.256 From UltraLite mk3 MIDI Port Stop
04:34:57.737 From UltraLite mk3 MIDI Port Program 4 97
04:34:57.737 From UltraLite mk3 MIDI Port Program 4 4
04:34:57.757 From UltraLite mk3 MIDI Port Clock
04:34:58.237 From UltraLite mk3 MIDI Port Aftertouch 9 C6 3
04:34:58.237 From UltraLite mk3 MIDI Port Stop
04:34:58.738 From UltraLite mk3 MIDI Port Control 1 Bank Select 125
04:34:58.738 From UltraLite mk3 MIDI Port Stop
04:34:59.237 From UltraLite mk3 MIDI Port Control 1 Data Increment 3
04:34:59.737 From UltraLite mk3 MIDI Port Control 1 Bank Select 9
04:35:00.237 From UltraLite mk3 MIDI Port MTC Quarter Frame 96
04:35:00.738 From UltraLite mk3 MIDI Port Control 1 Bank Select 25
04:35:01.237 From UltraLite mk3 MIDI Port MTC Quarter Frame 96
04:35:01.737 From UltraLite mk3 MIDI Port Program 5 97
04:35:01.737 From UltraLite mk3 MIDI Port Program 5 1
04:35:01.737 From UltraLite mk3 MIDI Port Program 5 74
04:35:02.236 From UltraLite mk3 MIDI Port MTC Quarter Frame 96

[os]

The fact that doing something with the cable changed anything at all does suggest the cable might be suspect.

[walmik]

Hi os, I apologize, kindly ignore my previous message. The sysex related logs showed up only coz I messed with the local JS to allow that. It s quite late here and I probably should get some sleep. I will try again later.

One minor update I have is, the KeyStep Pro thing didnt work out
I havent tried with the BS2, but will try it for sure.

[walmik]

Oh what joy! I m terribly happy to report (after my attempts with BS2 failed as well) I went and bought the MIO iConnectivity USB-Midi interface ($39) and I m finally able to use the web editor for presets! Thank you os for your patience and for your products!

I m attaching my victory screenshot which boasts all the controls for the multi fx algorithm in it s full glory for others who come here with a similar problem to not lose hope and more importantly to not give up on the MIDI breakout of the Disting Ex!

[os]