Moog Complement B: Why two 960s?

[Ockeghem]

Enjoyed that one, thanks!

[Synthoholic]

Here are a few examples of what can be done when two sequencers modulate the same instrument.

Moog Taurus III (pitch and filter)


Moslab 921b ( 1 sequencer controlling pitch, and second sequencer co trolling the pitch of a disconnected second B set to sync.


Moon Multimode Filter (sequencer controlling the Mode, other sequencer controlling the cutoff.)



If you have a simple eight-stage sequence controlling the pitch, a second sequencer set to less than or greater than eight stages sent to the filter will create ostinatos, "extending" the eight and making it slightly more interesting.

[r_omega_]

Oh. I have another related question: So the original 960 was designed without any thought given to quantization, is that correct? So the expectation was that the user would tune the pitches by ear? I like that Dot Com offers a quantizer to pair with the Q960.

[suitandtieguy]

Oh. I have another related question: So the original 960 was designed without any thought given to quantization, is that correct?

yep. this is why Tangerine Dream had custom sequencers built with rotary switches for semitones and octaves. there were tuning trimmers even for the semitones!

[SynthBaron]

I think most people underutilize their sequencers. With a voltage-controlled slew limiter, you can easily turn a 960 into a complex envelope/CV generator when you use the 2nd row to control the slew duration and throwing the switch for using the 3rd row for timing. So it becomes more like why should you only have one 960, lol...

[KSS]

[TheDegenerateElite]

Moog did do a Complement A version that featured a single 960, switch and interface. It was still 5 or 6 grand though.

Another thing about the official Moog reissues is that they don't have any power themselves. You have to plug it into the back of one of their other systems to actually run it, unless you make a cable and power supply. That, along with cost, makes them prohibitive outside the subset of reissue buyers.

[kindredlost]

I think most people underutilize their sequencers. With a voltage-controlled slew limiter, you can easily turn a 960 into a complex envelope/CV generator when you use the 2nd row to control the slew duration and throwing the switch for using the 3rd row for timing. So it becomes more like why should you only have one 960, lol...

This is a secondary patch that works differently than the patch I outlined earlier. Indeed it's probably better for complete control of the slew characteristics and should also be a way to impart filtering of the 960 in audio rate waveform mode to remove the high transients. The only voltage controlled slew I have is the Serge Voltage Controlled Slope made by Sputnik. I'll have to try it. Thanks for the tip SynthBaron!

[r_omega_]

I think most people underutilize their sequencers. With a voltage-controlled slew limiter, you can easily turn a 960 into a complex envelope/CV generator when you use the 2nd row to control the slew duration and throwing the switch for using the 3rd row for timing. So it becomes more like why should you only have one 960, lol...

Yes, this makes a lot of sense!

This thread is doing a lot to get me thinking about ways to utilize two 960s.

[r_omega_]

Moog did do a Complement A version that featured a single 960, switch and interface. It was still 5 or 6 grand though.

Another thing about the official Moog reissues is that they don't have any power themselves. You have to plug it into the back of one of their other systems to actually run it, unless you make a cable and power supply. That, along with cost, makes them prohibitive outside the subset of reissue buyers.

I had no idea! And I did not know that they jack power from the Model 10/15.

[Synthoholic]

The 960 sequencer complement B is independently powered via the rear panel.

[SynthBaron]

The 960 sequencer complement B is independently powered via the rear panel.

Pics of the portable cabinet version show an standard IEC power plug, but the console 22u wide wood cabinets show just a multipin cable.

[Synthoholic]

Good catch! There weren't any available pics of the rear of the console versions at the time.

[Ebolatone]

Here is the performance FWIW...

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