Glitch was a strange music category at the time. I was reflecting on this recently when looking at Fennez’s Endless Summer which also was flagged at glitch. It seemed like a catchall for anything electronic and not fitting a mould with some processing some erratic sounds. I liked the term electronica better at the time and still do as a catchall alternative electronic for things not easily defined.
Minimal techno can mean lots of genres now. We used to call the main stream 2k 130b techno minimal as it was very repetitive- many tracks 1 loop with slight variation, then there stuff like hawtin’s era of minimal techno which became its own thing. Not sure if pan sonic fits either of those. It is more industrial.
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Hmm, I'd consider Endless Summer closer to glitch than Pan Sonic, but still it's intentional, not focused on harnessing error as an aesthetic choice. so I'd not consider it glitch, myself. I hear you, I think I've softened on the term "electronica", but at the time I hated it. I just said electronic music and let the other person figure it out if my other (non-genre) descriptors piqued their interest.
True--I was playing a bit fast and loose with "minimal techno", in that when Pan Sonic made a change/added or subtracted an element in the track it had a large impact just as in minimal techno. Robert Hood's Minimal Nation and Ø's Metri came out the same year, which is wild! Sounds palette wise you make a good point Pan Sonic came more from an industrial sound.
True--I was playing a bit fast and loose with "minimal techno", in that when Pan Sonic made a change/added or subtracted an element in the track it had a large impact just as in minimal techno. Robert Hood's Minimal Nation and Ø's Metri came out the same year, which is wild! Sounds palette wise you make a good point Pan Sonic came more from an industrial sound.
Luka wrote: ↑Fri Mar 17, 2023 3:09 pm Glitch was a strange music category at the time. I was reflecting on this recently when looking at Fennez’s Endless Summer which also was flagged at glitch. It seemed like a catchall for anything electronic and not fitting a mould with some processing some erratic sounds. I liked the term electronica better at the time and still do as a catchall alternative electronic for things not easily defined.
Minimal techno can mean lots of genres now. We used to call the main stream 2k 130b techno minimal as it was very repetitive- many tracks 1 loop with slight variation, then there stuff like hawtin’s era of minimal techno which became its own thing. Not sure if pan sonic fits either of those. It is more industrial.
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Yeah I don’t think Panasonic or Mika Vainio’s music can be considered “glitch”. I feel Mika’s music was quite deliberate in its approach and he only released music that matched what was inside his imagination. Super sad thinking that we’ve been without Mika for almost 6 years now. I remember finding out about his death in 2017 and feeling crushed knowing one of my musical heroes has passed. I will never forget seeing Panasonic live in 1998 and seeing Mika perform solo twice, including at Berghain!
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synthfanatic wrote: ↑Sat Mar 25, 2023 6:58 pm Yeah I don’t think Panasonic or Mika Vainio’s music can be considered “glitch”. I feel Mika’s music was quite deliberate in its approach and he only released music that matched what was inside his imagination. Super sad thinking that we’ve been without Mika for almost 6 years now. I remember finding out about his death in 2017 and feeling crushed knowing one of my musical heroes had passed. I will never forget seeing Panasonic live in 1998 and seeing Mika perform solo twice, including at Berghain!