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behndy wrote: Tue Mar 14, 2023 8:19 am beep BOOP.

sorry, just a dot (.) or doot to pop this into my watched threads list to keep up with/peruse more thoroughly later.
OK. No worries :tu:

Looking up "Doot" on Urban Dictionary, I was afraid it was meant as an insult - but I'm glad it wasn't!

Please peruse at your leisure:)

https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Doot
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lol. yeah. defo references the Doom Horns Doot'er, i forgot that. on Imgur it morphed from Dot as in putting just a "." as a response on a thread to check out later or get updates on, to Doot, to a conflation of Upvote and Do(o)t as Updoot.

internet language progression is equal parts silly and interesting as butts to me.

NEVER INSULTS.
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Samatha Dubs wrote: Mon Mar 13, 2023 8:06 am
Here you go:

Nice work Samatha! Really enjoy the way the chords modulate across the 13 frequencies. The sequence has a certain "mono-modal" quality to it and its difficult to achieve wide tonal range when limiting yourself to that set of frequencies - the meditative song structure is well suited for it!

I definitely recommend trying out the ODDSound MTS suite (mini version is free and works with MTS supporting VSTs like Serum - somewhat comprehensive list of supporting VSTs can be found here: https://oddsound.com/usingmtsesp.php).
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lonefront wrote: Wed Mar 15, 2023 4:07 pm
Nice work Samatha! Really enjoy the way the chords modulate across the 13 frequencies. The sequence has a certain "mono-modal" quality to it and its difficult to achieve wide tonal range when limiting yourself to that set of frequencies - the meditative song structure is well suited for it!

I definitely recommend trying out the ODDSound MTS suite (mini version is free and works with MTS supporting VSTs like Serum - somewhat comprehensive list of supporting VSTs can be found here: https://oddsound.com/usingmtsesp.php).
Thank you. I'm glad you liked it :goo:

This particular set of frequencies is sort of similar to the lower notes of the natural harmonic series. So basically the overtones that would be contained in a single note played on an acoustic instrument. If you want more flexibility, and be able to "change chords", you could potentially just make a copies of the whole set, and pitch the individual sets. Pitching one set up by a perfect fourth would work well, I think.

In fact, I might just try that..

But anyway.

Thank you for reminding me about the Oddsound project! I remember reading about it (years ago?), but back then it was still in the early stages of development, and eventually I forgot all about it. I use the TAL-Sampler a lot, but haven't updated it for some time. The version I currently have installed doesn't have MTS-ESP support, so I'll have to dig up my serial and figure out how to update that. And then try to figure out MTS-ESP as well, of course.

Best wishes for your weekend!
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alerion wrote: Tue Mar 07, 2023 3:16 am As I go deeper down the rabbit hole of energy work, tantra, etc., I'm learning a lot of this stuff is very much not "woo," and actually quite direct and real, but I still have a big question mark around sound healing and specific frequencies.
I'd be delighted if you could furnish me with some pointers to double-blind RCT-based studies with statistically significant outcomes, showing that "sound healing" is "not woo". That would be absolutely massive if true.
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Anyone got a link to the spreadsheet that isn't FB?
Keen to have a gander at it and the "relationships" is highlights!
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Scrog1er wrote: Tue Mar 28, 2023 7:10 am Anyone got a link to the spreadsheet that isn't FB?
Keen to have a gander at it and the "relationships" is highlights!
I went looking for that as well, but without any luck. If you decide to type/copy it manually from the graphic, please post a copy of the numbers here!
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Immediately after posting that, it occurred to me that I could try using an image to text converter like https://www.onlineocr.net/

Using this image:

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..and it seems to have worked.

Here is the result:

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Illustrations of 33 hertz ring modulations as heard on "The Moon" disclaimer: colleagues cannot accept responsibility for certain results all values (+ - 0.05%) values in Hz
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I believe the majority of that information is "research" related.

colundi.net (via wayback machine) will give you a small subsect, as will the tubutec scala file.

mostly interested to view the spreadsheet for relationships and how the information is presented, as opposed to just trying to rinse the frequency values.
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Scrog1er wrote: Tue Mar 28, 2023 6:12 pm I believe the majority of that information is "research" related.

colundi.net (via wayback machine) will give you a small subsect, as will the tubutec scala file.

mostly interested to view the spreadsheet for relationships and how the information is presented, as opposed to just trying to rinse the frequency values.
That makes sense. I didn't realise a document with an explanation/methodology existed. If you find it, I'd like to see that as well :tu:
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@lonefront posted a spreadsheet link - but it’s to Facebook which is not accessible to me.

Perhaps they have it saved locally and could share?
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Kattefjaes wrote: Fri Mar 17, 2023 11:31 am
alerion wrote: Tue Mar 07, 2023 3:16 am As I go deeper down the rabbit hole of energy work, tantra, etc., I'm learning a lot of this stuff is very much not "woo," and actually quite direct and real, but I still have a big question mark around sound healing and specific frequencies.
I'd be delighted if you could furnish me with some pointers to double-blind RCT-based studies with statistically significant outcomes, showing that "sound healing" is "not woo". That would be absolutely massive if true.
I'm not going to do the digging, but a cursory search reveals that research has been done in this area:
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I've attached the latest spreadsheet - I've had to zip it as it wouldn't allow an xlsx file to upload.

The image above is pre-colundi (so not the proper list of 128 freqs)- he was working on that when Grant sent him the first batch of colundi freqs

A text list of the 128 freqs is (10.8, 13.8, 14.3, 19.7, 20.8, 27.3, 27.7, 31.32, 31.7, 32, 33, 33.8, 35, 38, 39, 40, 45, 46.98, 55, 59.9, 62.64, 63, 70, 70.47, 73.6, 80, 83, 90, 98.4, 105, 108, 110, 111, 120, 126.22, 136.1, 140.25, 141.27, 144.72, 147, 147.85, 160, 172.06, 174, 183.58, 187.61, 194.18, 194.71, 197, 207.36, 210.42, 211.44, 221.23, 250, 256, 264, 273, 285, 288, 293, 315, 315.8, 320, 341, 342, 345, 360, 372, 384, 396, 402, 404, 408, 410, 413, 416, 417, 420.82, 440, 441, 445, 448, 464, 480, 492.8, 526, 528, 586, 620, 630, 639, 685, 728, 741, 784, 852, 880, 963, 984, 1000, 1033, 1052, 1074, 1185, 1296, 1417, 1820, 2025, 2041, 2675, 3240, 3835, 3975, 4049, 4129, 4173, 4221, 4280, 4444, 4671, 4840, 5201, 5284, 5907, 6051, 8000, 9999, 12000)
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grantmoney wrote: Wed Mar 29, 2023 8:54 pm I've attached the latest spreadsheet
Excellent. Thank you!
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I made a Scala file with the 127 frequencies from the spreadsheet and wanted to share it here, but for some reason the forum doesn't allow attaching .scl files, so I put it here instead (link expires in 30 days):

https://easyupload.io/q8qh2v

I tried it out in Ableton and ended up making a track with it. I used TAL Sampler for the bassline (single cycle waveforms from a Kawai K1) and the free WhispAir VST synth from "full bucket music" for the bell-like sounds - controlling the tuning of both instruments with the Scala file via the MTS-ESP Mini plugin (also free).

https://www.fullbucket.de/music/whispair.html
https://oddsound.com/mtsespmini.php

The kick drum is Abletons's Operator and a "through zero flanger". There's also a pumped out field-recording with a blackbird from Greece, a Jomox drum machine recorded through carious outboard fx and a "snare" made from pitched down snippets of a recording of a small natural water spring somewhere in China. The tempo is 111 bpm (also one of the numbers from the spreadsheet).

If you decide to use these numbers yourself, I'd love to hear what you come up with!

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thanks grantmoney!!
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Here's another one. Also based on the frequencies from the spreadsheet. To get away from randomness I decided to apply a traditional Javanese gamelan pattern, using a limited selection of frequencies. I use it here in two different permutations (one simply starting from the middle of the pattern). The drum machines follow the same basic pattern as well (except for a few minor edits). The track contains samples from a field recording made by georgescastagne, which he uploaded here yesterday (thanks George!):

https://gate.sc/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fapor ... 0363574489

And here's the track:



Colundi! :party:
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