I dunno

[Cfp]

Apparently I can buy as many of these digital things as I want.

https://www.tubesandmore.com/products/r ... ontal-mini

If it sounds good in your circuit and offers another chance at a Metasonix reverb I will not care whether it’s digital or electromechanical.

[leftbracket]

Belton bricks are the one circumstance in which I wholeheartedly embrace the redoubtable PT2399. I don't know how one would sound with a high-powered tube input stage, but I'd be more than interested to see, hehe

[DJ Tap Water]

Stereo mixer < Individual outs
Don't see the need for stereo or FX
If you don't have an onboard sequencer, might as well make it a eurorack module? Which would work better for me

[notmiserlouagain]

Belton bricks are the one circumstance in which I wholeheartedly embrace the redoubtable PT2399. I don't know how one would sound with a high-powered tube input stage, but I'd be more than interested to see, hehe

Hey don´t mess with my good friend, the pt2399


METASONIX drums, just wow. Looking forward to. I don´t care for any additional stuff if it is not "special". Baby10 sequencers or Belton bricks are fine, but there are half a dozen flying around here all over the place. The tube sound is what makes it special. I can understand the aim to make the drum machine to more of a standalone musical instrument. But then I would rather go for something more surprising like force sensing resistor pads, or a crazy ct5 style digital looper...or both

[metasonix]

Been experimenting with a "biquad" filter using a very crude tube opamp-thing Heathkit used in their first analog computer in 1957. This is AFTER weeks of effort to stabilize it. There are things I just can't do with tubes, okay?

[synchromesh]

What about having an embedded microcontroller that learns the "useful" areas of the control voltage space and maps them to "user-friendly" input CVs? I guess it could get tricky when you have hysteresis and other nonlinear fun & games, but on the plus side you could mention "machine learning" and "AI" and you'd probably get venture capital funding at this point...

[Cfp]

That prototype sounds spectral, like EVP

[hlmm]

They want MIDI and presets.

[pingu]

I think that a fancy single drum voice with an analog 8 step sequencer, that maybe has variable step length, would be quite nice.
That would be a more affordable solution...
Or...
Maybe single modules that can be chained to make a larger drum machine.
The sequencer could have separate start/stop trigger inputs.
...just some late night thoughts.

Go wild, I'm poor anyway .

I love your unique modules!... And I really enjoyed the interview on youtube!

[CursedFrogurt]

Take all this with a grain of salt because I'm a finicky lazy shit that buys a lot of gear and doesn't make a lot of music with it, but here are some things I wanted from D2K when I had one.

My main takeaway is make it an instrument. Obviously people can use this in a modular context and patch up up with all kinds of utilities, but with a few non-tube utilities and some clever default routing built in, it could be WAY more usable as a standalone instrument. If it's just going to feel like a bunch of modules, I'd rather just buy some modules and put them in a rack.

Ergonomics: The D2K is a collection of modules under a single panel, and it really feels like it. You have a lot of patch spaghetti under knobs that are mega finicky. I'd love to see the patch points moved away from the pots and grouped together. So triggers 1-5 all in a row, individual outs all in a separate group, etc.

Individual outs are post-volume - It was annoying that the individual outs were affected by the volume control, so you had no way of changing the mix of the main out without changing the volume of the individual outs. Not sure if that's just inherent to the circuit of the voices, but would be nice if individual outs were always full blast.

Non-tube utilities:
- I'll jump in on the non-distorted mixer. I loved the main out of the D2K, but I also often wanted to use the non distorted voices in addition to the distorted madness. I often patched it up with all voices to a mixer, and then to a crossfader to blend to taste. Something like that would be rad.
- Simple envelopes / gate-to-trigger conversion / slew: I used a Malekko A/D generator to convert gates to super short envelopes. Having a very slight amount of slew on the attack softened up the voices of the pinged filters in a nice way, so having some control over a trigger / slew would be nice. A bit of decay also seemed to lengthen the decay of the drum voice to a limited extent as well. At the very least, a simple gate to trigger converter for each voice would be nice to make interfacing with external sequencers way easier.
- Attenuators for pitch CV - just a mild convenience.
- Some sort of crazy compensation circuit for pitch cv that reduces the resonance as the pitch increases so you can modulate pitch up without it going into wild self-oscillation?
- Built in modulation source? - Lfo / sequencer? Something even dumber? This is probably just feature bloat but if you could do something uniquely stupid/mental in this area it could be a cool part of the instrument.

Sequencer thoughts:
A built in sequencer would be cool, but not critical, especially if there were gate-to-trigger utility built in. That said, something like the D1K sequencer would be okay. Something like the Monotribe sequencer would be amazing! I really love sequencing drums on the monotribe.

Maybe just put a Midi->trigger converter in there and we can just use Monotribes.

[CursedFrogurt]

Another crazy thought would just be to make something like the D2K again, but with all the I/O available on a pin header behind the panel so someone can just make their own crazy expander that does all the crazy shit they want.

You can handle all the bonkers tube shit that you're good at, and somebody else can make panels of varying complexity that turns it into a self-contained instrument.

[metasonix]

What about having an embedded microcontroller

No

something like the D2K again, but with all the I/O available on a pin header

Also no

Non-tube utilities:

Other companies are already making plenty of those. Too much competition.

[Cfp]

After looking at all the available trigger sequencers, I'm most favorable to the Doepfer A157.

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Don't have one, and must get one for testing first. Contact me if you have a used example and don't use it much.

Do you still need one?

[metasonix]

Do you still need one?

Yes, please PM me or better yet: email me directly