Addac 713 - Stereo discrete mixer

[Raymond]

Hi everyone,

I just saw that as I am currently looking for a small stereo mixer and this one seems really. I don’t have more info than what’s said on the modulargrid page but here it is :



Stereo Discrete Mixer

ADDAC713 is the stereo version of our 703 Discrete Mixer. Inspired by Moog’s CP3 mixer, this is a fully discrete analog mixer and it's not, by any means, your standard breakfast mixer, although it can behave like one.

This is a wolf in sheep's clothing. Despite its harmless looks there's a dark snarly soul behind that panel that wants to take your sounds into a realm of gritty gnarly growls.

This new version was initially thought of as a percussion mixer, with mono inputs and panning, to allow placing percussive voices in the stereo field, while keeping channel 4 in mono for low end sources like a kick drum or Bass. In the developement process we slightly changed this initial idea, adding stereo inputs for the first 3 channels, but still kept the 4th channel in mono.

All four [GAIN] controls go to extreme levels, the first 3 channels also feature [PAN] controls.

Feedback is used to overdrive the whole mix. As the control is turned clockwise the sound will be clipped harder until it goes completely off, this happens as feedback is increased the audio bias reference also moves up, at extreme levels it offsets the whole signal upwards until it completely goes above the top rail clipping the whole signal hence the resulting gate effect.

The [MASTER OUTPUT] sets the overall output gain of the mixer, the two leds monitor the audio output signal.

The Soft clipping switch engages an anti-click circuit which adds a low pass before the output, the switch allows 3 states: Soft low pass / Off / Hard low pass

Features:
.Three channels with stereo inputs, gain and pan knob
.One channel with mono input and gain knob
.Feedback/gate knob
.Master output volume knob
.Soft clipping switch
.Two Led Monitors for Left and Right channels

https://www.modulargrid.net/e/addac-system-addac713

Does anyone know when it will be available precisely ? I looked on Thomann and Schneidersladen but it’s written to be announced.

[denim dan]

Sweet! It’s up on the Addac page too. Juno says TBD November 2022. Thanks for pointing this out.

[_gasStationShrimp]

I only owned one for a brief time, but the regular 703 sounded fantastic when I had it. I would imagine this thing would be great for drum busses especially with the panning

[denim dan]

Update: it is available for purchase on the ADDAC website, so I would guess ~2ish months for production to hit retailers.

[monads]

My 713 just arrived and it's pretty good! I have a couple 703s and these are just perfect modules for grouping/routing signals!!

[citizengain]

Any more opinions about this little fella? It's been out for a while and I can hardly find any reviews or demos, let alone units on the used market..

What I'm particularly interested in is how it compares to other CP3 mixers like the Manhattan Analog DTM which I use and love and which appears to be an exact replica of the original CP3 whereas the 713 is labeled as "CP3 inspired". Anyone know about the technical differences and how the saturation/drive compares to DTM? Maybe also 703 users can help? guess 703 and 713 have pretty much the same core circuit anyway.

Thanks!

[monads]

I don't have a Manhattan Analog DTM to compare against.....but I really like the 703/713 modules. I don't use overdrive much since I prefer a cleaner signal. Don't think you can go wrong with anything here, just depends on available HP you have and after stereo or mono versions.

[citizengain]

Thanks for sharing your impression, monads!
Guess I'll just order a new one soon as there really isn't much I can go wrong with. If it doesn't meet my expectations for whatever reason, I'll just be able to return it (although I try to keep that at a minimum).
I, too, prefer clean sounds but I'm looking forward to use it as a submixer for XPO, adding some grit before hitting QPAS.

[monads]

My guess is you'll probably keep whatever version you choose stereo/mono. There's just many practical applications for these small mixer modules But do keep posted what go you with and opinions!

[Oktha]

I recently bought this to have a small main mixer with panning, that can go wild if needed. So far it seems like can't get clean/"unbiased" signals out of it though, it's always distorted. Anyone else experiencing this?

[monads]

Are you pushing the volume channels too much? I don't use the Feedback and have the Master Output set at 3pm. I typically adjust individual channels next but I never push volumes to the max cause it will result in distortion. Clean sounds otherwise when the volume channels are set just right.

[Oktha]

I kind of managed to dial it in, with the tiniest increments. But everything feels very fragile and could easily overdrive. I wouldn't consider the mix to be clean, compared to going straight into the output modul. But maybe that's the character of the 713. I bought it second hand, that's why I am trying to find out if this is how it's supposed to be.

[monads]

The place/person where purchased was a pre-built module or DIY Kit version??? The only other thing I can think of is something is amiss with the trimmer pots, either not calibrated, tweaked or changed. The DIY version also offered some extra mods the installer could do to add noise/increased distortion. My module was pre-built directly from ADDAC. Maybe other users with pre-built modules can chime in, last option is to reach out to ADDAC for support.

[Oktha]

The place/person where purchased was a pre-built module or DIY Kit version??? The only other thing I can think of is something is amiss with the trimmer pots, either not calibrated, tweaked or changed. The DIY version also offered some extra mods the installer could do to add noise/increased distortion. My module was pre-built directly from ADDAC. Maybe other users with pre-built modules can chime in, last option is to reach out to ADDAC for support.

Appartently it was a DIY build, which I didn't check before buying it. I didn't know it was available boths ways (euro-beginner). But I think I can make it work. I generally like a saturated, not totally clean sound. It just gets too much when it's always over the top and can't be dialed in properly.

[monads]

It's probably just the calibration is off! Or if the mods were installed also. Not your fault for not knowing, we all have to start somewhere

[mercurialization]

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[monads]

Keep us posted if you are able to test some components! I have noticed on individual channels I'm unable to go past 12 o'clock w/o introducing distortion.

[Daniele]

Here is my video of the 713 for those interested in it, cheers!

[monads]

^Great video!!! I guess this confirms the distortion when pushed past noon for individual channels and part of the design!

[Daniele]

^Great video!!! I guess this confirms the distortion when pushed past noon for individual channels and part of the design! :hihi:

Thanks! Yes, it's defintely part of the design of this mixer, you can push the master output if you want to keep the individual channels clean but it shines on distortion :)