MANDRAKE - Kick Drum Synthesizer by Malstrom

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Hi all,

I am happy to finally be able to show you Mandrake, our Kick Drum Synthesizer!

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A kick drum lays down the foundation of your track, the root of your beat. You need the low end to create a pumping motion and the high end to cut through the mix. All this while maintaining spectral room for other sounds. So it can be quite an undertaking to get right. 

Which is why we developed Mandrake. A kick drum synthesizer that targets kick drum sounds for Dance, House and Techno music. Inspired by physical models, DAW drum synthesis and sound mixing techniques. It divides the sound into a "Hit" and "Body", with sound shaping possibilities for both sections.

Mandrake’s “Hit” is a resonating filter which is saturated to have a square-like shape. It generates a short pulse that can be tuned and attenuated. Which results in a short click that will cut through the mix when and where you need it.

Mandrake’s “Body” is made up from another resonating filter. Its wave is slightly saturated and filtered to resemble the harmonics of a drum. More saturation can be added in the form of uneven harmonics to create harsher tones. The result is then sent to a damping circuit that is used to tame the sound. Finally the body can resonate which leads to more liquid sounding drums, or specific frequency boosts. All of the body’s parameters are connected which makes it super fun and playable!

A few more functions allow Mandrake to be adaptable to different situations. Two shapes with different harmonic content and volume decay shape. An envelope output to provide a normal or ducking envelope to further sculpt your sound, or to side chain other sounds. An accent or volume CV input to provide two volume control options. And a clean-up switch which adds a high-pass at 25Hz to remove the rumble, a spectral dip at 300Hz to make the kick sound less “boxy”.

Mandrake is not another 808 or 909 clone; its analog circuitry is entirely built from scratch to create an original sound. Also nothing more than a great kick; ranges to get into detail, and useful kick drum sounds throughout its settings!


FEATURES

- “Hit” and “Body” sections to sculpt the most important parts of a kick drum.
- Hit-timbre and Hit-volume controls to shape sound of the transient.
- Body saturation, resonance, decay and damping controls provide a varied sound palette.
- Clear pitch control section that is carefully scaled to match a kick drum.
- Two VCA shapes that provide different flavours.
- Ducking or normal Envelope output to further sculpt and modulate.
- Accent or VCA CV input switch to match your sequencing method.
- Clean-up switch to remove rumble and decrease "boxiness".


More info: https://www.malstromaudio.com/mandrake
Modulargrid: https://www.modulargrid.net/e/malstrom-mandrake
Manual: https://www.malstromaudio.com/mandrake-manual
Dealers: https://www.malstromaudio.com/dealers





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very interesting, sounds good, but although slighly different character, it's still very much a 909 kinda kick, even tho it's claiming being in another ballpark. I mean it in a good way!
the only thing that puts me off is the price tho. there is stiff competition for the same price, or even way cheaper...
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Nice video demonstration and sounding module.
Chopper wrote: Tue Nov 29, 2022 1:56 pm the only thing that puts me off is the price tho. there is stiff competition for the same price, or even way cheaper...
What other modules are you referring to?
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erica for example, or SSF, and many others.
not saying that Mandrake looks bad, but it is having a stiff competition.
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Seems like a worthy addition to the drum rack. The sounds around 3:00 and 7:00 were pretty on. How's it for toms/higher register percussion?
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Could you please add this to Modulargrid?
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There are a whole bunch of kick modules out there but do think this one has a unique voice. It would pair nicely with the UK.
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cackland wrote: Thu Dec 01, 2022 2:10 pm Could you please add this to Modulargrid?
It‘s on there already: https://www.modulargrid.net/e/other-unk ... m-mandrake
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Ah thanks, didn’t think to look under ‘unknown’
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@cackland Thanks! Glad you like the demonstration too. It's indeed on modulargrid already. I've asked them to list Malstrom as a manufacturer, still no reply though.

@Chopper Good to hear you like the sound of it! Not exactly sure if you want me to justify the pricing. I agree on the stiff competition. But would not have made Mandrake unless I thought it would bring something different to the market. There is a definite focus on playability while you can get into detailed kick drum sound design. So thought has been put into getting useful ranges and something that feels intuitive. While you have enough creative patch options that can get you into other territories.

Its sound is made with multiple layers, so its not just an oscillator with saturation. The “body” alone is: Resonant filter (oscillator), saturation, filter, saturation, filter. And that’s just a small part of the circuitry. Personally I think you can hear this in its sound, especially when using headphones you can hear real depth in it. Not saying others don’t have this, because they all have their strengths. But I can only speak for where focus lies in the Mandrake design.

That said; quality components at this time are expensive (especially when you are starting out). But you get what you pay for. I think that pretty much every module type is competitive these days. And I will not survive long if I don’t price it for what it’s worth, just because others do price their product for what it’s worth. I think it is a fair market price considering other offers and what goes into Mandrake, but I’m biased.

You are of course totally free to decide if the design choices and price are worth it to you, I hope they are. Still, not everything is for everyone and that’s okay!

Thanks @akavalve, good to read you think it has a unique voice! That's what I was going for.

@emohiseq Great! I have no demos yet for the tom toms. Will be making some more advanced demos (no talking) when I have a bit more time. But I’ve described what I consider the best results for tom toms in the manual at page 18 “Example 4: Tom Toms”. With some simple yet effective patching you can get Tom Toms that have multiple parameter changes as pitch goes higher. The cv attenuverters of Mandrake’s parameters really get their mileage in this patch.
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Each time I watch the demo I'm more enamored with the sounds and the implementation. Mine is on the way from Schneidersladen.
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No need to justify yourself Malstrom, looks great, congrats.
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Love the sound on this. Great mid-90s Djax style acid techno kicks. Last 30 seconds made me dig through my records looking for this old favourite

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I wasn't in the market for a new kick module when I entered this thread, but I just pre-ordered one after listening to the demo! Seems like this module more or less does everything I want out of kick, has a knob per function interface, and sounds really good. The cost seems reasonable to me. The WMD Crater is $369 and I feel like Mandrake offers more features than the Crater does, with the built in attenuators and side-chaining if nothing else.
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@akavalve and @DaytimeBender Thank you for the support. Would love to see/hear what you do with it!

And thanks @far and @wont for the positive feedback.
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This sounds really great, and the only competitor for my taste is the crater right now. Most of the kick drum module have the low end, but not the punch the crater has or this one seem to have! Very nice.
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evs wrote: Mon Dec 05, 2022 10:49 am This sounds really great, and the only competitor for my taste is the crater right now. Most of the kick drum module have the low end, but not the punch the crater has or this one seem to have! Very nice.
Mine just arrived yesterday. The demo video is excellent and captures the way it sounds in the rack very accurately. I'm really pleased with it. I do have a Crater as well. To my ear the Click on the Crater sounds separate from the kick sound and I almost never use it. The Mandrake can get some top end cut that feels very integrated with the overall sound. I do like the sustain feature on the Crater. But for a kick with character and a lot of sweet spots I'd choose the Mandrake myself if I could only keep one.
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@akavalve Thanks for the feedback. It’s great that Mandrake is becoming your preferred kick drum so quickly. I hope you have a lot of fun with it!
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akavalve wrote: Tue Dec 06, 2022 12:45 pm
evs wrote: Mon Dec 05, 2022 10:49 am This sounds really great, and the only competitor for my taste is the crater right now. Most of the kick drum module have the low end, but not the punch the crater has or this one seem to have! Very nice.
Mine just arrived yesterday. The demo video is excellent and captures the way it sounds in the rack very accurately. I'm really pleased with it. I do have a Crater as well. To my ear the Click on the Crater sounds separate from the kick sound and I almost never use it. The Mandrake can get some top end cut that feels very integrated with the overall sound. I do like the sustain feature on the Crater. But for a kick with character and a lot of sweet spots I'd choose the Mandrake myself if I could only keep one.
Yes that’s true, the click on the crater feels separated! Indeed.
I let it run through a tube distortion. This bakes it together nicely. Klangbau tube vca. Highly recommended btw.
However, now I would like to have a mandrake:)
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evs wrote: Wed Dec 14, 2022 7:16 am
akavalve wrote: Tue Dec 06, 2022 12:45 pm
evs wrote: Mon Dec 05, 2022 10:49 am This sounds really great, and the only competitor for my taste is the crater right now. Most of the kick drum module have the low end, but not the punch the crater has or this one seem to have! Very nice.
Mine just arrived yesterday. The demo video is excellent and captures the way it sounds in the rack very accurately. I'm really pleased with it. I do have a Crater as well. To my ear the Click on the Crater sounds separate from the kick sound and I almost never use it. The Mandrake can get some top end cut that feels very integrated with the overall sound. I do like the sustain feature on the Crater. But for a kick with character and a lot of sweet spots I'd choose the Mandrake myself if I could only keep one.
Yes that’s true, the click on the crater feels separated! Indeed.
I let it run through a tube distortion. This bakes it together nicely. Klangbau tube vca. Highly recommended btw.
However, now I would like to have a mandrake:)
The way the accent is implemented offers an interesting way of combining triggers. Sort of like an OR but with different sounds for each trigger. I've been running a different track from Metron into each with phasing pattern lengths. Makes for a varied pattern with a coherent similarity to the sound.
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Did anybody have a chance to compare the Mandrake with the Ultra Kick? Somewhat tempted to add one of the two to my rack, would love to hear how these two compare.
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dvdmllr wrote: Fri Dec 16, 2022 9:34 pm Did anybody have a chance to compare the Mandrake with the Ultra Kick? Somewhat tempted to add one of the two to my rack, would love to hear how these two compare.
I have both and they are quite different. The UK is extremely flexible and I can usually get it to fit with whatever else is in a patch. The Mandrake has a ton of character and a whole lot of subtle, satisfying variation on that character. I like to have two kicks in a case, right now it's the Mandrake and the UK. If I only had one it I would probably make the utilitarian decision and keep the UK for flexibility. But the Mandrake would be a great choice if you are happy with that character. I could see building a rack around it's sound. The demo is a very good representation of what it sounds like. I've tried probably a dozen different kick modules and it's one of the few I genuinely enjoy the sound of on it's own - i.e. I'd be pretty happy just modulating a 4 on the floor beat and listening to that. The UK is much more something I use to support a patch, not something I love for it's own sound (which is actually it's strength imo). Others opinions may differ of course, but that's my 2 cents.
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@akavalve Good to read you think the accent input implementation is useful. It is somewhat of an untraditional approach but it felt much more natural in the design. It's also enjoyable to read your thoughts on how Mandrake compares to others. Your points were exactly my design intent.
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Hi all,
Hope you are well. Wanted to share with you the new demo video I uploaded. And the video Ihor made with Mandrake. They are both added to the original post.

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Hi all,
Ezbot did a livestream with both Mandrake and Arkan. It's added to the original post.
Enjoy.
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