Euclidean rhythm with control over all 3 parameters using cvs?

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Euclidean rhythm with control over all 3 parameters using cvs?

Post by Dadaisme » Wed Oct 14, 2020 10:14 pm

Hi!

Is there a module that can control the 3 parameters of euclidean rythms (start position, sequence length, number of beats) with 3cvs?

I find many controlling sequence length and number of beats with cvs and start position using a nob... but nothing using 3cvs.

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Re: Euclidean rhythm with control over all 3 parameters using cvs?

Post by Rob303 » Sat Oct 17, 2020 3:29 pm

Dadaisme wrote:
Wed Oct 14, 2020 10:14 pm
Hi!

Is there a module that can control the 3 parameters of euclidean rythms (start position, sequence length, number of beats) with 3cvs?

I find many controlling sequence length and number of beats with cvs and start position using a nob... but nothing using 3cvs.

Thx

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Re: Euclidean rhythm with control over all 3 parameters using cvs?

Post by AnalogAssailant » Sat Oct 17, 2020 3:42 pm

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Re: Euclidean rhythm with control over all 3 parameters using cvs?

Post by Joey P. » Sat Oct 17, 2020 4:03 pm

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Re: Euclidean rhythm with control over all 3 parameters using cvs?

Post by NotHerbert » Sat Oct 17, 2020 4:23 pm

DOT only has one CV input per channel, so while you can select which parameter you want to modulate, you can only do one of them at a time.

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Re: Euclidean rhythm with control over all 3 parameters using cvs?

Post by rosten » Sat Oct 17, 2020 4:27 pm

Hermod can do this! (Though It can also do a lot more and maybe much more than you need).

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Re: Euclidean rhythm with control over all 3 parameters using cvs?

Post by djthopa » Sat Oct 17, 2020 5:47 pm

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Re: Euclidean rhythm with control over all 3 parameters using cvs?

Post by daphnid » Sat Oct 17, 2020 7:21 pm

Not that I know of. Pamela's New Workout allows you to set all these parameter to be controlled by CV but only has 2 CV inputs so two of the params would have to share a CV source. Adding the Endorphin.es Running Order would give you a some more modulation options for euclidean sequencing but maybe not directly what you're asking for in a straightforward way.

You may want to check out the new IOlabs Flux. I read the quick start guide last night and it has 4 CV ins, not sure what all the destinations are but it looks like a very robust euclidean sequencer.

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Re: Euclidean rhythm with control over all 3 parameters using cvs?

Post by rosten » Sat Oct 17, 2020 11:05 pm

To clarify about Hermod, if you set up a track with a Euclidean "fx" it becomes essentially a euclidian gate sequencer, you can have up to 8 of these. You can control #steps, #fill, rotation, gate length, gate length randomization/variation amount and speed, and overall speed/clock division. Hermod has 4 cv ins and they can be set to control any /all of those parameters using a little mod-matrix menu. Hermod can offset and attenuate incoming cv. It may take a minute or two to set up your Euclidean sequencer the way you want it but once you have it, you can save it and recall it whenever. Hermod is like a swiss army knife.

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Re: Euclidean rhythm with control over all 3 parameters using cvs?

Post by sirjpink » Sun Oct 18, 2020 3:23 am

The Rebel Technology Klasmata might interest you as it has seperate CV inputs for length and fill parameters (not the shift as far as I can see though). The only downside I can think of is that it's only one channel per 8hp module.

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Re: Euclidean rhythm with control over all 3 parameters using cvs?

Post by Dadaisme » Sun Oct 18, 2020 7:28 pm

Thx for all your answers!

So, there is no small solution for having all 3 parameters of euclidean rhythms to be controlled by cvs at the same time. Teletype plus extras, Hermod and IOlabs Flux are to big of a solution just for that.

Maybe by Ardurino? Found this in here : viewtopic.php?p=585093 and viewtopic.php?f=17&t=45485&start=25 Maybe I'll try that route... probably not. Stoicheia and Klasmata are made like this?!

I thought of the Klasmata, it's interesting for the 1-32 steps.

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Re: Euclidean rhythm with control over all 3 parameters using cvs?

Post by mosorensen » Sun Oct 18, 2020 7:28 pm

I have never used one, but with the new Droid module it seems straightforward to set it up with CV control over all three parameters (length, betas, offset) of Euclidean rhythms, using its Euklid "circuit".

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Re: Euclidean rhythm with control over all 3 parameters using cvs?

Post by Dadaisme » Sun Oct 18, 2020 8:20 pm

It really seems possible to do it with the Droid!

Something like
[euklid]
clock = i1
reset = i2
length = i3*15+1
beats = i4*15+1
offset = i5*15+1
output = o1

would do the trick for a 16 setps sequence!

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Re: Euclidean rhythm with control over all 3 parameters using cvs?

Post by Lokua » Sun Oct 18, 2020 8:27 pm

Temps Utile can 100% do this and more via clock division/multiplication.

It has 4 assignable CV inputs (on top of 2 trigger inputs) so you could do what you say and still have 4th CV input for whatever (and 5 more sequencer channels)

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Re: Euclidean rhythm with control over all 3 parameters using cvs?

Post by parsec foley » Sat Dec 12, 2020 1:19 pm

I use to play a lot with the VPME euclidean circles and as far as it is so much fun and lots of channels, I always thought it missed CV control. That's the reason why I decided lately to add the control possibilities of the rebel technology Klasmata. It doesn't have CV control over the starting point, but I don't feel the need to CV control it, once it's set. While modulating fill and lenght it's a pleasure. And the addiction of the lenght up to 32 steps it's been the most pleasant surprise. Well worth the HP, the only channel and the specialisation of the module.

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