Announcing Lumen Software Video Synthesizer

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Post by johnwynberg » Mon Apr 29, 2019 1:28 pm

Not sure if you have watched the video above, but in case you haven’t…

Jason mentions that he’s working on a Lumen HD, not sure if that’s what you mean by Lumen 2 @Virusinstaller, or how different it would be from the current version of Lumen (apart from the HD resolution, of course). [I wish there would be something like NI Blocks for video synthesis, but I suppose there is no market enough for a development at such a scale.]

If I remember correctly, Jason also mentions a PC version, @Branko, but since I have no interest on such a version, I didn’t pay much attention.

As for “audio reactivity”, @blabberbytes, he mentioned he had been working on it, but it was buggy, so he decided not to implement it for the current version of Lumen. Apparently he’s still working on it. In the meantime, as he showed in the video, it’s possible to get Lumen to react to audio through MIDI.

Having said all that, he seems to work alone, there doesn't seem to be a company or a team behind Lumen, so all those plans can happen any time soon or take another year, who knows.

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Post by shoottofill » Mon Jun 24, 2019 10:49 pm

so has anyone used a MIDI controller with Lumen? Just started messing around with it and immediately want a controller. Will pull the trigger once the HD update comes out for Lumen. But i wanted to see if anyone had any experience with a controller and Lumen and if so, do you have any recommendations?

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Post by Matos » Mon Jun 24, 2019 11:16 pm

Cheap korg nanokontrols work well. Mrk 1 is best but the newer version also works well.

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Post by Agawell » Thu Jun 27, 2019 3:25 pm

I've used a beatstep pro to wiggle with and I also have a doepfer 16 channel cv to midi cc module that I use a lot

must try them combined at some point
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Post by shoottofill » Thu Jun 27, 2019 11:10 pm

Agawell wrote:I've used a beatstep pro to wiggle with and I also have a doepfer 16 channel cv to midi cc module that I use a lot

must try them combined at some point

oh, like in a way to have CV control over LUMEN?

thats kinda brilliant.

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Post by Agawell » Sun Jun 30, 2019 4:31 am

yeah kind of a pia to set up and control in lumen and I find attenuators before the cv->midi converter are really helpful

addac also do a module for this which is currently available, the doepfer is discontinued, but can be found used for a good price

also I use a lzx sensory translator to add audio reactivity to both lumen and other lzx modules, which are being fed by the outputs from lumen which in turn has a webcam pointed at the tv screen
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Black Lotus?

Post by tau_seti » Fri Aug 09, 2019 3:34 pm

Any idea of how the fractally "Black Lotus" or "Electric Consciousness" patches are made in Lumen?

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Post by johnwynberg » Sun Aug 11, 2019 4:44 am

tau_seti wrote:Any idea of how the fractally "Black Lotus" or "Electric Consciousness" patches are made in Lumen?
Not sure I understand your question, since, if you click on the Patch tab, you can clearly see how Lumen has been patched, and on the Knobs tab, the settings for each knob. Although everything contributes to the final patch, those two patches seem tot rely heavily on the K.Scope, Trails and an XOR.

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Post by tau_seti » Sun Aug 11, 2019 9:13 am

Well, I suppose it would have been too much for me to RTFM.

Thanks! I’ll do that now!

Lumen’s definitely a very different animal than my LZX modules.

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Post by floris » Mon Aug 12, 2019 2:37 am

what midi controller would you suggest that can connect to all the knobs?

update: probably a Behringer ROTARY BCR2000 Total-Recall USB/MIDI Controller with 32 Illuminated Rotary Encoders would work for this?

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Post by jpeterman » Tue Aug 20, 2019 1:31 pm

Does anyone here know if audio reactivity has been developed yet? So that it syncs with audio?

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Post by Agawell » Wed Aug 21, 2019 12:30 pm

hahahaa

no - best place to check is the paracosm slack

iirc hd ouptut and windows appear to have got higher priority

if you really want audio reactivity now then the only real options are coding something yourself in praxis_live or max or similar or using a cv to midi cv eurorack module and an lzx sensory translator

I use the lzx sensory translator and a doepfer a192-1 (which is discontinued and can be very reasonably priced used)

the only alternative I know of to the doepfer is from addac, but is quite a bit dearer for not a great deal extra functionality
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Post by monolithicfungus » Sun Apr 19, 2020 7:27 pm

Agawell wrote:
Sat May 12, 2018 7:40 am
i syphon video into Lumen using either processing3 or praxis_live

I've sometimes used syphon sender type things too - iphone camera output for example - to create a feedback loop type thing

all of which are free and will pretty much work on anything Lumen will (watch the cpu/memory consumption)
@Agawell, i know it's been months... I'm very new to Processing. Can you please post an example Processing patch to syphon video from... say QuickTime into Lumen? I'm reading the manual but it's taking some time. An example piece of code would really expedite things.

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Thanks!

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Post by Agawell » Mon Apr 20, 2020 5:19 am

have you downloaded the examples?
and added the package for syphon?

if so you should have all the examples you need on your computer already - if not do this now

there are 2 important examples - how to play a video and how to create a syphon server - you want to combine these and then in lumen you then just select the syphon stream as a camera input (main or one of the auxes)

I don't have any example code as the computer I used for Processing is in a different country with my daughter

alternatively you could try praxis°live - this is effectively the same - except visual programming - which is all you need to play a video - this is what I generally do now

another alternative would be to google syphon compatible video players - I don't think that quicktime supports syphon - but another program will support both syphon and quicktime format videos
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Post by monolithicfungus » Tue Apr 21, 2020 6:38 pm

This is great! Thank you so much for your help, @Agawell!

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Post by crystal hell pool » Mon May 25, 2020 5:38 pm

I have found that VLCSyphon is great to get quicktimers into Lumen, get crashes when you set OSC 3 to a cam input though

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Post by Agawell » Tue May 26, 2020 9:13 am

I;ve never had any issues with crashing related to camera inputs - I'm pretty sure I've used osc3 as a camera input many times, but I've never used VLC via syphon
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Post by ModusOp » Fri Jun 05, 2020 4:36 pm

Revisiting this thread but can’t find in a search if it’s been said to be in development for iOS devices yet. Would love to be able to use this on an iPad Pro.

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Post by ersatzplanet » Fri Jun 05, 2020 4:45 pm

Any future plans on a virtual modular version? One with a library of different functions that can be arranged like a modular, so you can have multiples of certain modules etc.
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Post by crystal hell pool » Sat Jun 06, 2020 10:06 pm

To be clear, Lumen does NOT crash, its very stable, the VLCsyphon application crashes more than works, kinda annoying

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Post by Agawell » Mon Jun 08, 2020 4:29 pm

ModusOp wrote:
Fri Jun 05, 2020 4:36 pm
Revisiting this thread but can’t find in a search if it’s been said to be in development for iOS devices yet. Would love to be able to use this on an iPad Pro.
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Any future plans on a virtual modular version? One with a library of different functions that can be arranged like a modular, so you can have multiples of certain modules etc.
I wouldn't hold my breath if I were you
MIDI improvements, HD and Windows have been under development for years
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Post by ModusOp » Mon Jun 08, 2020 4:41 pm

Agawell wrote:
Mon Jun 08, 2020 4:29 pm
ModusOp wrote:
Fri Jun 05, 2020 4:36 pm
Revisiting this thread but can’t find in a search if it’s been said to be in development for iOS devices yet. Would love to be able to use this on an iPad Pro.
ersatzplanet wrote:
Fri Jun 05, 2020 4:45 pm
Any future plans on a virtual modular version? One with a library of different functions that can be arranged like a modular, so you can have multiples of certain modules etc.
I wouldn't hold my breath if I were you
MIDI improvements, HD and Windows have been under development for years
They responded to my inquiries via email...

“ While an iOS version is on our radar, it isn't on our current roadmap, unfortunately.”
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Post by monolithicfungus » Thu Jul 09, 2020 4:31 pm



Many thanks to the folks on this forum who helped me figure out how to route video thru Lumen. I've been having a blast with it! WIsh I could achieve better resolution, though. This is looking pretty SD... but that has it's own charm :roll:

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Post by studio460 » Wed May 05, 2021 9:28 pm

Awesome!

I just downloaded the Lumen demo this afternoon and after a short time decided to buy the license, which I think is very reasonably priced. Unlike with audio stuff (I rarely use AUs/VSTs), using software for this part of video-synthesis is a perfect solution for me. I can just send the HDMI-output of my MacBook Pro or iMac into my ATEM switcher, and voila!

So, kudos to the developer for making a great macOS-app which is really creative and pretty affordable.
maxheadwound wrote:
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Yep! Anything that shows up like a webcam or a Syphon stream already works great with Lumen. We'll be adding support for other video I/O options over time, most likely starting with Blackmagic products.
Great! I have an ATEM switcher so I can just feed a live camera into the switcher and send the ATEM's USB "webcam" output into my iMac. This is how I assumed it worked.

[Edit: Nevermind! The camera in my MBP apparently isn't working (just performed full-diagnostics with Apple support—it's broken!). I just never knew it because this is the first time I've ever used it!]
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Post by studio460 » Wed May 05, 2021 10:38 pm

Wow!

Holy crap! Lumen's a whole new fucking ballgame with a live camera-feed! My iMac's built-in camera is working fine with Lumen (the camera in my MacBook Pro is broken). This app is fantastic! I guess all I need now is a MIDI control-surface. In addition to the Behringer BCR2000, the X-Touch, Novation's Launch Control XL, and Studiologic's SL Mixface (if that works in this application) all also seem quite nice.

24-hours later . . .

I wish had this back in the day—I'm staring at the Zebra Wave preset right now, and all I can think is, "This would be great on acid!" Really, this app is incredible and has exceeded my expectations a hundred-fold. Kudos to the brilliant developer who created this—thank you!

Seriously, I think I'm going to mount some large LED-displays in the living room vertically and feed them these presets to serve as electronic wall-art. Here's some simple cross-dissolves of a Lumen frame and some of my still photography. Still have to figure out how to input pre-recorded video/still-sources into Lumen.

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Will be getting a new model (not the ones shown here) to do some video and photo shoots soon, specifically for Lumen-input! Initially, just some headshots over a seamless background (e.g., black, white, or green for keying), but shot with Lumen-integration in mind (e.g., certain poses, fan for hair, etc.).
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