Hardware/software synths with unique/original oscillator designs.

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Hardware/software synths with unique/original oscillator designs.

Post by tomatoKetchup » Tue Apr 20, 2021 5:32 am

Hello fellow Muffers,

I'm looking for a list of recent enough synths in both hardware and software form which feature truly unique and original oscillator designs. That can also include MaxMSP/Reaktor/etc. patches, VCV Rack modules, etc. Anything using novel sound synthesis techniques and concepts really.

Here's what I've got so far:
• Hardware Eurorack modules: Benjolin, Dove Audio Window Transform Function, MOK Waverazor, E-RM Polygogo, Neutron Sound Orgone Accumulator (pulsar mode).
• Hardware synthesizers: ASM HYDRASYNTH, Korg Prologue (to an extent with their open-source development platform).

I'm focusing solely on the oscillator section, I don't care about filters, effect, etc. Can you think of anything else?

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Re: Hardware/software synths with unique/original oscillator designs.

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Re: Hardware/software synths with unique/original oscillator designs.

Post by dooj88 » Tue Apr 20, 2021 8:47 am

what makes a dco/vco design unique? at the end of the day, it's a cycling waveform at audio rate. for me it is the way the waveform can be modulated, not necessarily the sounds it produces. my favorite example is the waveform address in the shapeshifter. normally one would use a sawtooth to read a wavetable in a linear manner, but it can be any insane modulation you want to "read" the data in any order. FSS OSC2 Recombination Engine is another one that synthesizes waveforms in a unique way. the benjolin can make interesting sounds, but it is a result of how the oscillator reacts to the modulation built in, the waveforms aren't necessarily interesting. i guess i'm splitting hairs here, but if you want to explore the building blocks of sound more deeply, it is something to consider.

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Re: Hardware/software synths with unique/original oscillator designs.

Post by starthief » Tue Apr 20, 2021 9:35 am

Scanned, Grainy Clampit, some of the Plaits modes, pretty much every Noise Engineering oscillator...

Ensemble Oscillator and Panharmonium are a couple of examples where the individual oscillators are not necessarily "original" in design, but the magic is in the assignment of frequencies.

But I would say that quite often the magic of an oscillator isn't in the originality of its core design, but in the details of implementation, the actual execution.


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Re: Hardware/software synths with unique/original oscillator designs.

Post by fac » Tue Apr 20, 2021 9:50 am

Korg Poly 800

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Re: Hardware/software synths with unique/original oscillator designs.

Post by 11235813 » Tue Apr 20, 2021 6:02 pm

Are you including "Cloud/Swarm/Cluster" oscillators like Chainsaw, Mob of Emus, Odessa, Radikal Swarm RT311, AJH WaveSwarm, Instruo Saich, Quadrantid Swarm, ADDAC105 4 Voice Cluster, Supercritical demon core, etc?

I absolutely love the sounds of these oscillators...

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Re: Hardware/software synths with unique/original oscillator designs.

Post by 3hands » Tue Apr 20, 2021 8:15 pm

Nelson Baboon wrote:
Tue Apr 20, 2021 9:40 am
motor synth?

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Re: Hardware/software synths with unique/original oscillator designs.

Post by dubonaire » Tue Apr 20, 2021 8:47 pm

Novation Peak with its FPGA oscillators and 24MHz oversampling DACs.
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Re: Hardware/software synths with unique/original oscillator designs.

Post by dubonaire » Tue Apr 20, 2021 8:49 pm

Nelson Baboon wrote:
Tue Apr 20, 2021 9:40 am
motor synth?
https://www.gamechangeraudio.com/motor-synth/

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Re: Hardware/software synths with unique/original oscillator designs.

Post by Dave Peck » Tue Apr 20, 2021 9:01 pm

If you consider wavetable oscs 'unique and original' (at least when compared to analog oscs) I think a worthy option for Euro format module would be the Piston Honda Mark III. And for polysynths, it would be the Waldorf Quantum/Irridium.

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Re: Hardware/software synths with unique/original oscillator designs.

Post by LunaticSound » Thu Apr 22, 2021 4:00 pm

Rossums Trident deserves an honorable mention at least

Mungo w0 is unusual in it's design, albeit a simple building block, like most Mungo

IFMobenthey can surely offer some unusual designs

Disting has a pulsar OSC
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Re: Hardware/software synths with unique/original oscillator designs.

Post by LunaticSound » Thu Apr 22, 2021 4:03 pm

Ah, and Mangrove hasn't been named I think

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Re: Hardware/software synths with unique/original oscillator designs.

Post by Karl_Joseph » Thu Apr 22, 2021 4:08 pm

Software: xfer Serum oscillators are really deep.
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Re: Hardware/software synths with unique/original oscillator designs.

Post by DJ Tap Water » Thu Apr 22, 2021 4:21 pm

Phosphor. It's a swarm of oscillators physically modelled on actual swarm behaviour (like insects etc.)
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Re: Hardware/software synths with unique/original oscillator designs.

Post by Yes Powder » Thu Apr 22, 2021 4:31 pm

The Metasonix S-1000 synth and RK7 eurorack module oscillators are based around a gas-filled tube, which have a sort of sputtery and unstable quality to them.
The Gieskes VCOFan is a module based around an optical sensor and a computer fan. Kind of like the Motor Synth, but more janky.

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Re: Hardware/software synths with unique/original oscillator designs.

Post by Peng33 » Sat Apr 24, 2021 5:10 pm

Nonlinearcircuits' Plague of Demons.

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Re: Hardware/software synths with unique/original oscillator designs.

Post by Stice » Wed Apr 28, 2021 1:32 am

Loquelic uses some pretty unique math, I believe.

Angle Grinder uses some basic building blocks to create a unique sound source. The ‘oscillator’ per se is not very unusual though.

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Re: Hardware/software synths with unique/original oscillator designs.

Post by cbm » Thu Apr 29, 2021 2:22 am

Almost all the oscillators available in the Buchla ecosystem are pretty unique. The 258 is the most normal, but all the others including most of the 3rd party one are unusual in a lot of ways.
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Re: Hardware/software synths with unique/original oscillator designs.

Post by EATyourGUITAR » Thu Apr 29, 2021 2:02 pm

Nelson Baboon wrote:
Tue Apr 20, 2021 9:40 am
motor synth?
I think this was a fad that looked cool but it died pretty quick if we judge it based only on the sound vs price. it was too limited and too expensive. you can buy them at a discount now but I would not go near it. there are way better options out there.
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Re: Hardware/software synths with unique/original oscillator designs.

Post by EATyourGUITAR » Thu Apr 29, 2021 2:05 pm

Karl_Joseph wrote:
Thu Apr 22, 2021 4:08 pm
Software: xfer Serum oscillators are really deep.
I agree. I was developing tutorials, presets, sample packs when it was first released. I stopped using it though because the built in FX and modulation to the FX is very weak compared to all the other FX you can get in VST. UVI falcon is the future.
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Re: Hardware/software synths with unique/original oscillator designs.

Post by anomie » Sun May 02, 2021 10:13 am

cbm wrote:
Thu Apr 29, 2021 2:22 am
Almost all the oscillators available in the Buchla ecosystem are pretty unique.
What he said. Even the “classic” buchla OSCs like the 258 and 259 are geared around FM and AM modulation that came into the Euro world only through the likes of Verbos. And there are third-party OSCs like the Keen Association 268 that are still pretty unique in what they do

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Re: Hardware/software synths with unique/original oscillator designs.

Post by oldenjon » Sun May 02, 2021 10:24 am

LunaticSound wrote:
Thu Apr 22, 2021 4:03 pm
Ah, and Mangrove hasn't been named I think
Yeah mangrove doesn't get the credit it deserves in these kinds of discussions. IMO what it does is more unique than any of the TZ-FM/PM, additive, poly type modules mentioned in this thread.
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Re: Hardware/software synths with unique/original oscillator designs.

Post by starthief » Sun May 02, 2021 11:39 am

Mangrove is nice, but it can be pretty closely replicated with a function generator that doesn't reset in the rise stage, and a VCA that overdrives.

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