How do you know if a synth is fried?

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How do you know if a synth is fried?

Post by minimal_modular » Thu Jun 10, 2021 8:12 am

Backstory - patched something into an unattenuated input on my Strega that resulted in a wonderful cacophony of boosted, overdriven sound. Played around with plugging and unplugging the cable to cause the timbre to oscillate between mellowish and overdriven.

Since then, and it may just be my ears, or the patches I've made since, but Strega just seems a little... different. Not as willing to get harsh as it used to.

My cursory knowledge of CV makes it unlikely that I did anything to it - I thought I can patch anything to anything and be fine.

And I'm assuming that if I fried it, then it would cease to make sound altogether, but am wondering if it's possible to damage part of a semi-modular synth, and still have it work.

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Re: How do you know if a synth is fried?

Post by moremagic » Thu Jun 10, 2021 9:26 am

the smell & the silence are two big keys

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Re: How do you know if a synth is fried?

Post by Pelsea » Thu Jun 10, 2021 9:54 am

What exactly did you patch where?
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Re: How do you know if a synth is fried?

Post by minimal_modular » Thu Jun 10, 2021 10:27 am

Pelsea wrote:
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What exactly did you patch where?
If memory serves me correctly, the LFO from No Coast into the filter of Strega.

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Re: How do you know if a synth is fried?

Post by minimal_modular » Thu Jun 10, 2021 10:27 am

moremagic wrote:
Thu Jun 10, 2021 9:26 am
the smell & the silence are two big keys
Have neither issue, so perhaps it's all in my mind.

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Re: How do you know if a synth is fried?

Post by KSS » Thu Jun 10, 2021 2:07 pm

Ask the Strega maker what the limits on their inputs are. This is the only true way to know if you could have damaged something.
Because damages can indeed be less than catastrophic with smell and not working at all for clues.

It wouldn't be the first module to have a quirk where one or more of its inputs is overly sensitive. Overly meaning not accepting the full range of the power supply without damage. But accepting odd or incorrect function if outside 'expected' range which may be less and again should be determined and published by the module maker.

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Re: How do you know if a synth is fried?

Post by strettara » Thu Jun 10, 2021 2:10 pm

Smells of fat.
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Re: How do you know if a synth is fried?

Post by HenryBurlingame » Thu Jun 10, 2021 2:17 pm

If the LFO of 0-Coast into the filter of Strega damaged anything that would be a pretty sad state of affairs for the quality of make noise synths.

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Re: How do you know if a synth is fried?

Post by KSS » Thu Jun 10, 2021 3:19 pm

Memory is a mutable 'instrument'. Our human memory is entirely malleable and always suspect. <--Meaning that O-coast LFO into Strega may not be what actually caused the problem. If one actually exists.

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Re: How do you know if a synth is fried?

Post by minimal_modular » Thu Jun 10, 2021 3:34 pm

HenryBurlingame wrote:
Thu Jun 10, 2021 2:17 pm
If the LFO of 0-Coast into the filter of Strega damaged anything that would be a pretty sad state of affairs for the quality of make noise synths.
Agreed. Going to try this again, and see what sounds emerge. If the same thing occurs, then I can safely conclude that what I hear is what is 'supposed' to happen.

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Re: How do you know if a synth is fried?

Post by minimal_modular » Thu Jun 10, 2021 3:35 pm

strettara wrote:
Thu Jun 10, 2021 2:10 pm
Smells of fat.
Not necessarily.

https://www.tasteofhome.com/article/wha ... air-fryer/

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Re: How do you know if a synth is fried?

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Re: How do you know if a synth is fried?

Post by minimal_modular » Thu Jun 10, 2021 4:42 pm

KSS wrote:
Thu Jun 10, 2021 2:07 pm
Ask the Strega maker what the limits on their inputs are. This is the only true way to know if you could have damaged something.
Because damages can indeed be less than catastrophic with smell and not working at all for clues.

It wouldn't be the first module to have a quirk where one or more of its inputs is overly sensitive. Overly meaning not accepting the full range of the power supply without damage. But accepting odd or incorrect function if outside 'expected' range which may be less and again should be determined and published by the module maker.
From MN, in response to my asking if "there are there any patching combinations among the No Coast, Strega, and No Control, used exclusively as a trio, that might damage one or all of them?"

"No, there are not. Patch freely. Certain feedback patches could damage speakers if you don't keep an eye on the output level (for example patching Strega's output to the External Input and turning up the Constant Control), but won't damage the synths."

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Re: How do you know if a synth is fried?

Post by pugix » Thu Jun 10, 2021 4:49 pm

minimal_modular wrote:
Thu Jun 10, 2021 3:34 pm
HenryBurlingame wrote:
Thu Jun 10, 2021 2:17 pm
If the LFO of 0-Coast into the filter of Strega damaged anything that would be a pretty sad state of affairs for the quality of make noise synths.
Agreed. Going to try this again, and see what sounds emerge. If the same thing occurs, then I can safely conclude that what I hear is what is 'supposed' to happen.
So what happened this time?
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Re: How do you know if a synth is fried?

Post by minimal_modular » Thu Jun 10, 2021 4:56 pm

pugix wrote:
Thu Jun 10, 2021 4:49 pm
minimal_modular wrote:
Thu Jun 10, 2021 3:34 pm
HenryBurlingame wrote:
Thu Jun 10, 2021 2:17 pm
If the LFO of 0-Coast into the filter of Strega damaged anything that would be a pretty sad state of affairs for the quality of make noise synths.
Agreed. Going to try this again, and see what sounds emerge. If the same thing occurs, then I can safely conclude that what I hear is what is 'supposed' to happen.
So what happened this time?
Same as last time! Sounds great.

And MN confirmed there is no chance of damage with any potential connection between the synths I have.

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Re: How do you know if a synth is fried?

Post by KSS » Thu Jun 10, 2021 6:17 pm

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