Ableton Push 3

[moo_lefty]

In the Sonic State run through its mentioned that the Push is essentially a Linux box.

Funny that Ableton don't actually support Live running directly on Linux - would be a dream for Linux only recording weirdos like me if this means they start supporting it for the Live software

[DoverBeach]

Non-standalone version and a Mac air M1 would be the same price as standalone (little more maybe) and a lot more powerful.

non upgradable tho.
Btw even a launchpad with a laptop is "a lot more powerful" than push 3 standalone; the fact is that its competitors are not laptops but other standalone devices which Push 3 blows out of the water. Ableton is destroying the competition with this move.

I wander which midi to cv or audio interface modules it will gel well with over ADAT.

The new boredbrain optx, that is supposed to be released later this year might be a good candidate?

[wormhole]

Nice, so the headphone out can be configured to be 3/4 instead of just mirroring outputs 1/2. Great as a FX send into hardware.
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exactly the info i came here to see if anyone had figured out, thank you!

[miles_macquarrie]

Non-standalone version and a Mac air M1 would be the same price as standalone (little more maybe) and a lot more powerful.

non upgradable tho.
Btw even a launchpad with a laptop is "a lot more powerful" than push 3 standalone; the fact is that its competitors are not laptops but other standalone devices which Push 3 blows out of the water. Ableton is destroying the competition with this move.

I wander which midi to cv or audio interface modules it will gel well with over ADAT.

The new boredbrain optx, that is supposed to be released later this year might be a good candidate?

I've never heard of the optx before, but this is definitely on my radar now! Thank you.

[MoonPoly]

Just to update us from the: non abelton max itb world:

what is included ... is there a list anywhere ?

At the core this is a Its a clip audio/ midi sequencer with audio track, drum and keyboard sampler options with realtime timestretch
correct?

And it has some defult synths wavetable FM etc ...
Correct? ..

applicable to tracks are *cpu pending/unlimited) number of fx /dynamics ... these are native Abelton FX?

and its compatible to most all max4 live devices?
(which are user programmed utility's ... similar to modules in eurorack ? ... so I can have different: Fx, filters, sequencers, routers and event generators added to applicable tracks

is this correct? ... are the MAX devices all free or do you have to pay for these ..

If yes to all of these ... then the next question is workflow ... how is it .. simple effective quick innovative ... or fiddly clubbersome alto of menu selection and jumping back ..

IMO one of the best thing about this release is that it raised /pushed the bar .... the new benchmark

Respect @ leveling up ..

[deecalk1]

are the MAX devices all free or do you have to pay for these

https://maxforlive.com/library/index.php

[MoonPoly]

are the MAX devices all free or do you have to pay for these

https://maxforlive.com/library/index.php

Jesus .... so all these work inside the box .. how does that translate into editing/workflow ..

Guess parametric modulation lines and offset automation and sequencing are all options galore ..

What are the highlights of these devices ? .. beatrepeaters? groove creators? fx / granular sampling engines, analog emulation/ tape etc .....

my apologies the list is way to long.. and I have no experiance with these .. anyone wanna list some of the favorites
thx!

[DoverBeach]

are the MAX devices all free or do you have to pay for these

https://maxforlive.com/library/index.php

Jesus .... so all these work inside the box .. how does that translate into editing/workflow ..

Guess parametric modulation lines and offset automation and sequencing are all options galore ..

What are the highlights of these devices ? .. beatrepeaters? groove creators? fx / granular sampling engines, analog emulation/ tape etc .....

my apologies the list is way to long.. and I have no experiance with these .. anyone wanna list some of the favorites
thx!

Pretty much everything you can think of and probably more

[gosh]

Remember lots of those will not work great (or at all) in Push standalone - or at least not without quite a lot editing and/or lack of ability to control. It does still open a world up though.

[lukas412]

Remember lots of those will not work great (or at all) in Push standalone - or at least not without quite a lot editing and/or lack of ability to control. It does still open a world up though.

also remember there will be an army of push 3 users doing this work.

[stripou]

Hope they make a waveform UI for Sampler too while they’re at it

[gosh]

Remember lots of those will not work great (or at all) in Push standalone - or at least not without quite a lot editing and/or lack of ability to control. It does still open a world up though.

also remember there will be an army of push 3 users doing this work.

Yea but seems there will still be some limitations. A number of Ableton m4l devices have not been able to work as expected which suggests if they cannot do it, others will struggle. But maybe things will change

[Back Down the Path]

Yea but seems there will still be some limitations. A number of Ableton m4l devices have not been able to work as expected which suggests if they cannot do it, others will struggle. But maybe things will change

Sure, it will take some time for all the great M4L devices to be functional running on standalone, but I am most excited for the devices yet to come that are designed with Push 3 in mind. As a sequencer junkie, I am very excited about the impending Push 3 sequencer golden age.

[Kattefjaes]

In the Sonic State run through its mentioned that the Push is essentially a Linux box.

Funny that Ableton don't actually support Live running directly on Linux - would be a dream for Linux only recording weirdos like me if this means they start supporting it for the Live software

Chances are it's not using the dysfunctional and tangled mess that is Linux audio libraries and userland, however- probably something a lot more tightly-coupled and consistent in performance.

[dubonaire]

A long time Ableton user (20 years!) but up until now was never interested enough in Push to buy one although I did have it in my cart a few times. I love the idea of being able to print tracks and load them into Push to use away from the studio. This also makes performing with Ableton super attractive. I think you are going to see a lot of these at gigs.

[miles_macquarrie]

Did anybody else purchase one of these and not have the payment clear on their cc? I'm really hoping that they charge when it ships and I didn't just get bumped back to the 8+ week crowd.

EDIT: Read the FAQ: The card will be charged 48 hours before shipping occurs.

[Scatre]

Remember lots of those will not work great (or at all) in Push standalone - or at least not without quite a lot editing and/or lack of ability to control. It does still open a world up though.

also remember there will be an army of push 3 users doing this work.

Yea but seems there will still be some limitations. A number of Ableton m4l devices have not been able to work as expected which suggests if they cannot do it, others will struggle. But maybe things will change

Provided a device doesn’t use any exotic externals, most will be a breeze to convert over. Just need to use Live UI objects and do a little housecleaning. You won’t get any custom graphical interfaces, however.

[soundular]

Can anyone speak to their experience with previous push models with regards to updates and user feedback requests? I'm hopeful that there will be lots of updates coming.

[Scatre]

Can anyone speak to their experience with previous push models with regards to updates and user feedback requests? I'm hopeful that there will be lots of updates coming.

P2 dev was relatively slow/ cautious to implement new shit. P3 is a major project with a lot more resources than before, however. Most of what will be added needs to be implemented in L11 first (if it isn’t already). I’d expect the roadmap to be a matter of adding what’s already in Live to P3 for quite a while. I’m sure they’ll inform one another tho.

[soundular]

Can anyone speak to their experience with previous push models with regards to updates and user feedback requests? I'm hopeful that there will be lots of updates coming.

P2 dev was relatively slow/ cautious to implement new shit. P3 is a major project with a lot more resources than before, however. Most of what will be added needs to be implemented in L11 first (if it isn’t already). I’d expect the roadmap to be a matter of adding what’s already in Live to P3 for quite a while. I’m sure they’ll inform one another tho.

I'm also thinking of some of the interface changes that can be made with firmware updates too (usb-c uses etc.) Loopop pointed out a lot of things that could be updates, like macro mapping for example, so I'm wondering if that's the kind of thing they would implement in a short period of time. Seems like it would definitely be a great device still, but it would be great to know if they'll address these kinds of things.

[wavejockey]

what everybody forget to mention is you will need to buy/have a Ableton Live license
if you want all the bread and butter instruments/(audio/midi)EFX/modular connectivity you'll need to buy the full monthy, which sets you back another 521€ - i just had confirm from Ableton this won't count / eat into their license policy , which say you can install on 2 separate devices though

-also, what portion of the RAM will be available after OS/program loads

[ObsoleteModular]

what everybody forget to mention is you will need to buy/have a Ableton Live license
if you want all the bread and butter instruments/(audio/midi)EFX/modular connectivity you'll need to buy the full monthy, which sets you back another 521€ - i just had confirm from Ableton this won't count / eat into their license policy , which say you can install on 2 separate devices though

-also, what portion of the RAM will be available after OS/program loads

You get the full version on the standalone device though, right?

Any additonal licencsing only relates to whatever you're running on your desktop.

[ObsoleteModular]

Lots of Max info in the CDM write up from Joshua Kit Clayton of Cycling ’74. Scroll down to the heading "Max for Live development"

The majority of devices which do not rely upon Jitter, Java, Mira, or third party externals should basically work on Push 3 at launch.

https://cdm.link/2023/05/inside-the-new-ableton-push/

[naturligfunktion]

I always wanted a Push. I had a Maschine way, way back but I didn't like it because you had a program within a program. But I loved the pads. So I always wanted a Push, and the thing that has kept me from buying is the price. I also don't like how you play keys on it (in comparison to a keyboard) but that is really not a big issue I think.

I saw the video with Stimming playing on it and it seems real fun. A worry is that it is to complicated, to deep. But I don't know. Maybe I get one of these. I have been wanting a controller for ages, but I never get one.

[wavejockey]

what everybody forget to mention is you will need to buy/have a Ableton Live license
if you want all the bread and butter instruments/(audio/midi)EFX/modular connectivity you'll need to buy the full monthy, which sets you back another 521€ - i just had confirm from Ableton this won't count / eat into their license policy , which say you can install on 2 separate devices though

You get the full version on the standalone device though, right?

Any additonal licencsing only relates to whatever you're running on your desktop.

i see that nowhere mentioned
the fact that you can add Live licenses when you buy a Push3 adds to my question/story