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New Waldorf synth M

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Re: New Waldorf synth M

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emir wrote: Tue Sep 20, 2022 6:21 am
dubonaire wrote: Tue Sep 20, 2022 6:16 am
emir wrote: Tue Sep 20, 2022 3:57 am Their reveal videos always impress me though. I love it.
Huh? I think it’s the synth that should impress you.
That was the first to impress of course, just wanted to point out their teasers are something I appreciate. After all that takes some effort too on their end. :)
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nodog wrote: Tue Sep 20, 2022 2:42 am I personally don't like the envelope shaping much. It seems too lineair to me.
Did you catch the lin/exp slope option added in the most recent firmware?
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tdel wrote: Wed Sep 21, 2022 10:14 pm
nodog wrote: Tue Sep 20, 2022 2:42 am I personally don't like the envelope shaping much. It seems too lineair to me.
Did you catch the lin/exp slope option added in the most recent firmware?
Thanks but I can't seem to find that option. I'm on FW 1.07 btw. Aren't you maybe thinking of velocity curves options? Or am I just not looking in the right places?
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I think it's lin/exp glide that was added in 1.07.

The wave envelopes are linear and the VCA/VCF envelopes are exponential if I remember a post from VladiS right. I don't have mine at hand but you can self-modulate envelopes to change the curve, I think?
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nodog wrote: Thu Sep 22, 2022 2:51 pm
tdel wrote: Wed Sep 21, 2022 10:14 pm
nodog wrote: Tue Sep 20, 2022 2:42 am I personally don't like the envelope shaping much. It seems too lineair to me.
Did you catch the lin/exp slope option added in the most recent firmware?
Thanks but I can't seem to find that option. I'm on FW 1.07 btw. Aren't you maybe thinking of velocity curves options? Or am I just not looking in the right places?
Ah, my mistake -- you're referring to the wave envelopes? I think those are indeed limited to lin, unfortunately.
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everydaycurry wrote: Fri Sep 23, 2022 1:12 am you can self-modulate envelopes to change the curve, I think?
do you have this kind of modulation routing on the M? :hmm:

I thought all mod destinations were fixed and only use attenuators to allow the modulators to act over them in a certain amount... or are envelopes´ segments part of the available modulation destinations of the same envelopes?
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anselmi wrote: Mon Sep 26, 2022 4:52 pm
everydaycurry wrote: Fri Sep 23, 2022 1:12 am you can self-modulate envelopes to change the curve, I think?
do you have this kind of modulation routing on the M? :hmm:

I thought all mod destinations were fixed and only use attenuators to allow the modulators to act over them in a certain amount... or are envelopes´ segments part of the available modulation destinations of the same envelopes?
to be honest mine has been on loan to a friend in synth-need for a few months so I'm a bit foggy but I believe the envelope segments (at least for filter and VCA) are part of the available destinations.

Glancing at the manual (pg 53 & 54) it looks like that's right.
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anselmi wrote: Mon Sep 26, 2022 4:52 pm
I thought all mod destinations were fixed and only use attenuators to allow the modulators to act over them in a certain amount... or are envelopes´ segments part of the available modulation destinations of the same envelopes?

Modulation is assigned at the destination. for instance, you can go into the Filter Env section and at each Env stage (ADSR) assign what you want to modulate it. And it's the same list of modulation sources for each modulation destination, like it's the same menu in the same order (LFO1, LFO2, etc.) and FiltENV is an option. So the Filter Envelope can modulate each section of the Filter Envelope in different modulation amounts.

And this extends to the Wave & Free Envelopes and all their stages.
It modulates :twisted:
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shred wrote: Tue Sep 27, 2022 8:25 am
anselmi wrote: Mon Sep 26, 2022 4:52 pm
I thought all mod destinations were fixed and only use attenuators to allow the modulators to act over them in a certain amount... or are envelopes´ segments part of the available modulation destinations of the same envelopes?

Modulation is assigned at the destination. for instance, you can go into the Filter Env section and at each Env stage (ADSR) assign what you want to modulate it. And it's the same list of modulation sources for each modulation destination, like it's the same menu in the same order (LFO1, LFO2, etc.) and FiltENV is an option. So the Filter Envelope can modulate each section of the Filter Envelope in different modulation amounts.

And this extends to the Wave & Free Envelopes and all their stages.
It modulates :twisted:
thanks for the info, great to know this... for me it´s the best compromise between fixed and matrix modulation
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Re: New Waldorf synth M

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Would love some kind of an overview of all possible modulations, though… can be troublesome to see what’s up in a patch.
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