Where is my Vermona 14!

chvad · Post by **chvad** » Wed Jan 24, 2018 8:50 pm

From Vermona:
"thanks for your email. I never heard of such an issue. We will check it and inform you about the result."

So the reply was pretty prompt which was nice! Curiosity is piqued!

SYNTHEMESCandDRENCROM · Wed Jan 24, 2018 11:12 pm

Yeah, coolio.
I'll be looking for that issue as well after i get mine.

chvad · Post by **chvad** » Wed Jan 24, 2018 11:40 pm

it's fairly small BUT I'd argue that as it's a boutique premium flagship thing that it probably shouldnt be there lol. once i tweak a patch im playing it via keys more than with knobs it but that wont be the case for all im sure!

DiscoDevil · Post by **DiscoDevil** » Thu Jan 25, 2018 10:54 am

I tried to recreate this last night and I guess I'm not hearing anything unexpected? I maybe just don't understand what I'm listening for.

chvad · Post by **chvad** » Thu Jan 25, 2018 10:59 am

setup a patch with a longer decay/release and a decent sustain level. this will work with the envelope level for either filter cutoff or pitch. if testing on the filter lower the filter a good amount so youve got some room to work. slowly increase the envelope intensity knob and instead of smoothly opening the filter you'll hear some jitter. or just open the filter all the way and to this on one of the oscillator to affect the pitch. it might be more evident there.

chvad · Post by **chvad** » Thu Jan 25, 2018 11:13 am

Got an email from Vermona saying they were unable to recreate the jitter so Im gonna make a video for them tonight. They've been very responsive which is nice. I'm curious to see if this is or isnt affecting all units.

SYNTHEMESCandDRENCROM · Thu Jan 25, 2018 4:52 pm

Since they are all numbered, maybe compare them that way- maybe numbers close to each other/release batches exhibit the issue?

SYNTHEMESCandDRENCROM · Thu Jan 25, 2018 4:54 pm

>Im gonna make a video for them tonight.

Can you post this somewhere, please?

OPT · Post by **OPT** » Thu Jan 25, 2018 4:57 pm

Not getting that on mine. #020

chvad · Post by **chvad** » Thu Jan 25, 2018 4:58 pm

good idea for the serial. i'll post it up for sure.

cscairney · Post by **cscairney** » Thu Jan 25, 2018 5:13 pm

I experienced it on #002

OPT · Post by **OPT** » Thu Jan 25, 2018 5:26 pm

Hmm.. OK, maybe I wasn't turning slowly enough.. it is a bit jittery if you turn very slowly, and if I'm hearing what I think you're hearing I get the same adjusting the coarse knob. But I don't see myself doing this much to be honest.

chvad · Post by **chvad** » Thu Jan 25, 2018 7:49 pm

Here's a quick video I made for Vermona. I'll report back what they say. I say envelope generator instead of envelope generator int 1. Sorry. tired. Y'all know what I'm sayin.
[video][/video]

computer controlled · Post by **computer controlled** » Thu Jan 25, 2018 9:06 pm

Isn't that "trumpet mode"? =o]

cscairney · Post by **cscairney** » Thu Jan 25, 2018 9:09 pm

Thanks chvad. Why I love muffs.

chvad · Post by **chvad** » Thu Jan 25, 2018 9:26 pm

computer controlled wrote:Isn't that "trumpet mode"? =o]

hahaha! i was thinking deflating balloon mode! or coffee twiddler shakes or something lol. trumpet for sure!

cscairney wrote:Thanks chvad. Why I love muffs.

for sure! happy to contribute.

It's a super minor thing and I'm waaaay happy with how this thing sounds but it IS an interesting behavior.

dopefiend · Post by **dopefiend** » Thu Jan 25, 2018 9:57 pm

Mine is SN 104. I performed these tests on it and....nothing. No issues. Smooth gliding of the pitch. It’s a beautiful, perfect little instrument. I’m in love with it! Only other synth that made me feel like this was the Voyager OS.

chvad · Post by **chvad** » Thu Jan 25, 2018 10:57 pm

My SN is 056. So along with cscairney's 002 we might be looking at a low serial thing?

nidas · Post by **nidas** » Fri Jan 26, 2018 3:20 am

I have serial 070 or 072 - will try this weekend and get back...

chvad · Post by **chvad** » Fri Jan 26, 2018 10:27 am

From Thomas at Vermona:

"thanks for the video. That has nothing to do with jitter as this works completely analog. That simply happens because of the huge amount of 6 octaves on the INTENSITY potentiometer. If we‘d lower the range it would become better."

What do y'all think? I suppose it makes some sense BUT wouldn't the sustain parameter then have the same issue? I'm not in any place to know too much about circuit design.

SYNTHEMESCandDRENCROM · Fri Jan 26, 2018 11:12 am

re: Thomas from Vermonas quote-
How does describing why there is a problem make it not a problem anymore?

and if what he says is true, every 14 should do this, no?

Don't have mine yet to test, btw but i know that it is numbered in the first 10 units...

cscairney · Post by **cscairney** » Fri Jan 26, 2018 2:44 pm

not convinced...

DiscoDevil · Post by **DiscoDevil** » Fri Jan 26, 2018 2:49 pm

I have #002 now so yeah, it does have this "problem" but I am not sure I would have noticed that it's not functioning properly. I did test out the same functionality on my Octave CAT and it does NOT does this. Interesting. Now that I know about it, it's irritating but it's not something I would run across in my normal use of the machine.

chvad · Post by **chvad** » Fri Jan 26, 2018 4:22 pm

at the very worst it's a quirk and quirks are character in the long run. it's certainly unexpected and i have no other synths that do this.

chvad · Post by **chvad** » Fri Jan 26, 2018 4:25 pm

cscairney wrote:not convinced...

yeah i mean... the explanation doesn't 100% make sense to me either. maybe my hands are shaking all over the place and i'm not realizing it. lol

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Where is my Vermona 14!