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Re: DDSR

Post by hollunderkurve » Sat May 02, 2020 8:20 pm

GryphonP3 wrote:
Sat May 02, 2020 5:01 am
A littlehelp for people trying to understand Digital shift registers:

For rhythms/triggers (digital section)
The main concept is DIGITAL. This means binary:no or yes, 0 or 1, 0V or 10v, gate off or gate on. Every clock pulse, it checks the data input or push button to see if there is a signal there crossing its threshold or not (its a comparator.) If there IS, it says “yes! 1!” registers that, and a pulse now arrives in the “conveyer belt” which bounces one bit down the line at each additional clock pulse, until it either disappears, or reappears at the beginning if the recirculate is on. This is a 10v pulse which appears at the digital output to be used as atrigger or whatever every time it passes the first step, so if you have multiple pulses in the conveyor belt, it will generate a repeating rhythm. Therotary switches set the sequence length and position of the active bits in the sequence.

For stepping voltages/melodies (analog)
DA: Digital shift registers can generate an analog variable control voltage by checking which of the steps is on (each one can have a different arbitrary value as determined by the circuit design) and SUMs an average of these voltage values for all bits currently on in that conveyor belt at that clock step, and outputs a voltage based on this value. So every combination of steps on currently will give a different voltage output. So it is kind of random in this sense, but it is repeatable if the pattern of blips in the conveyor belt is recirculating and repeating, but it is NOT dependant on any analog signal at any input like an S/H, it is instead entirely dependent on analyzing which steps in the sequence are currently 0s/1s at that moment. For instance, using 0s as off steps/unlit LEDs and 1s as on steps/lit LEDs, 00101101 could equal 2.8v or whatever in this circuit, and 10111011 could equal 7.2v at the output. It is an analog signal derived from the combination of on/off steps in the register at any moment.

CGS gated comparator is the grandfather of this module and has pots per step to assign each step’svoltage value when on for the DA summing. One of the most genius and underrated modules in any format, probably because few people understand how it works :hihi:
:hail: thank you.

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Re: DDSR

Post by gnome666 » Fri May 08, 2020 4:04 pm

GryphonP3 wrote:
Sat May 02, 2020 5:01 am
A littlehelp for people trying to understand Digital shift registers:

For rhythms/triggers (digital section)
The main concept is DIGITAL. This means binary:no or yes, 0 or 1, 0V or 10v, gate off or gate on. Every clock pulse, it checks the data input or push button to see if there is a signal there crossing its threshold or not (its a comparator.) If there IS, it says “yes! 1!” registers that, and a pulse now arrives in the “conveyer belt” which bounces one bit down the line at each additional clock pulse, until it either disappears, or reappears at the beginning if the recirculate is on. This is a 10v pulse which appears at the digital output to be used as atrigger or whatever every time it passes the first step, so if you have multiple pulses in the conveyor belt, it will generate a repeating rhythm. Therotary switches set the sequence length and position of the active bits in the sequence.

For stepping voltages/melodies (analog)
DA: Digital shift registers can generate an analog variable control voltage by checking which of the steps is on (each one can have a different arbitrary value as determined by the circuit design) and SUMs an average of these voltage values for all bits currently on in that conveyor belt at that clock step, and outputs a voltage based on this value. So every combination of steps on currently will give a different voltage output. So it is kind of random in this sense, but it is repeatable if the pattern of blips in the conveyor belt is recirculating and repeating, but it is NOT dependant on any analog signal at any input like an S/H, it is instead entirely dependent on analyzing which steps in the sequence are currently 0s/1s at that moment. For instance, using 0s as off steps/unlit LEDs and 1s as on steps/lit LEDs, 00101101 could equal 2.8v or whatever in this circuit, and 10111011 could equal 7.2v at the output. It is an analog signal derived from the combination of on/off steps in the register at any moment.

CGS gated comparator is the grandfather of this module and has pots per step to assign each step’svoltage value when on for the DA summing. One of the most genius and underrated modules in any format, probably because few people understand how it works :hihi:
thank you for this explanation. I "think" i finally get the gist of it. :hail: :hail:

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Re: DDSR

Post by athletic_beetle » Thu Nov 12, 2020 11:22 am

hey i just wanted to chime in real quick and say this is a great thread full of interesting ideas!

i haven't got my hands on one of these (NOT YET!) but i've been exploring some of the same ideas with the dual shift registers on my double knot and getting some very compelling possibilities with the combination of two shift registers and the XOR/inverter thing on the DK... the wheels in my brain are spinning!

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Re: DDSR

Post by freakynorth » Sun Dec 27, 2020 11:17 pm

Anyone using them on other drum machines/rhythm boxes???

(Besides DRM1/DRM2)
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Re: DDSR

Post by T. Jervell » Tue Jan 05, 2021 8:16 am

A short(ish) snippet of a patch I did with the Chirper and the DDSR and a couple of other BB-modules.
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Re: DDSR

Post by joncharliefeathers » Tue Jan 05, 2021 5:32 pm

Some great sonar pings down there :tu:

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Re: DDSR

Post by freakynorth » Thu Jan 14, 2021 10:23 am

Sounds so great, T. Jervell!
Love the lil rig you got going!

I’m looking to pair my Macumbista Benjolin with a DDSR really soon.. can’t wait.
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Re: DDSR

Post by T. Jervell » Thu Jan 14, 2021 11:53 am

Thanks! Yeah it’s a lot of fun! You cant go wrong pairing a Benjolin with a DDSR :sb:
The Macumbista one is a perfect fit :tu:

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Re: DDSR

Post by freakynorth » Thu Jan 14, 2021 10:42 pm

You have one?? The macumbista. It’s pretty amazing.. I get lost in it for hours. I’m excited to see the results of adding a DDSR into the mix!
I was thinking of putting a primrose into the same case as the DDSR as well..
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Re: DDSR

Post by T. Jervell » Fri Jan 15, 2021 1:56 am

freakynorth wrote:
Thu Jan 14, 2021 10:42 pm
You have one?? The macumbista. It’s pretty amazing.. I get lost in it for hours. I’m excited to see the results of adding a DDSR into the mix!
I was thinking of putting a primrose into the same case as the DDSR as well..
Sadly not anymore. I used to own one, but sadly had to let it go... it is a wonderful machine. I did manage to keep my Blippoo box though, so not all bad😊
Yeah the peneose is great utility to «tame» the DDSR’s outs. Also a source for more tuned random/S&H👍

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