WMD Sequential Switch Matrix

SvenskLjudporr · Post by **SvenskLjudporr** » Sat Jan 21, 2017 4:10 pm

I love this module!

Sequential Feedback Routing is AWESOME!

This track was made a while ago. The patch is simply Rubicon connected to SARA VCF. Outputs and filter outputs are connected to SSM. Outputs of SSM are connected to inputs of SARA. SSM is clocked.

https://soundcloud.com/oskarlygner/ryb- ... oop-sara-2

mdoudoroff · Post by **mdoudoroff** » Sat Jan 21, 2017 4:18 pm

Yes! It is awesome! Co-incidentally, I was using my SSM today to route transient sounds to the left or right of a stereo DSP:

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Worwell · Post by **Worwell** » Wed May 03, 2017 6:41 pm

Just picked up an SSM with expander used with the intention to sell the expander but now I have to keep it. Very useful pair. Here is my first patch using it to sequence.

[video][/video]

desolationjones · Post by **desolationjones** » Wed May 31, 2017 9:11 am

Does anyone have a pinout for the 20-pin expansion header on the back? If I could access the state of the button matrix directly it would open up some awesome DIY expander options.

mt3 · Post by **mt3** » Wed May 31, 2017 3:24 pm

desolationjones wrote:Does anyone have a pinout for the 20-pin expansion header on the back? If I could access the state of the button matrix directly it would open up some awesome DIY expander options.

Did you try contacting Will.I.Am Mass Destruction directly?

desolationjones · Post by **desolationjones** » Wed May 31, 2017 3:39 pm

mt3 wrote:
desolationjones wrote:Does anyone have a pinout for the 20-pin expansion header on the back? If I could access the state of the button matrix directly it would open up some awesome DIY expander options.
Did you try contacting Will.I.Am Mass Destruction directly?

Nope, I will do so now. I might end up hooking it up to an oscilloscope if no one has before...

kbithecrowing · Post by **kbithecrowing** » Wed May 31, 2017 4:02 pm

Daisuk wrote:Pretty much everything goes through the SSM in this patch. Just sayin'. It's a great module, super handy for making variations in patches.

http://soundcloud.com/happyleaguecactus ... en-dum-ide

Seriously wonderful track

desolationjones · Post by **desolationjones** » Fri Jun 02, 2017 2:48 pm

desolationjones wrote:Does anyone have a pinout for the 20-pin expansion header on the back? If I could access the state of the button matrix directly it would open up some awesome DIY expander options.

Alex at WMD emailed me back and wrote:Will start at pin 1 which is bottom Right of the 20 pin header. Then go Right Left and then up.
These are high (5V) when the connection is made. They are unbuffered so be careful connecting them without a resistor to anything. Do not use them as direct outputs to jacks without some sort of buffering.
1: 4-4
2: 4-3
3: 4-2
4: 4-1
5: 3-4
6: 3-3
7: 3-2
8: 3-1
9: 2-4
10: 2-3
11: 2-2
12: 2-1
13: 1-4
14: 1-3
15: 1-2
16: 1-1

17: Bank bit 0
18: Bank bit 1

19: Do not use (has to do with save and step)
20: Do not use (has to do with save and step)

anosou · Post by **anosou** » Mon Jul 10, 2017 5:30 pm

desolationjones wrote:
desolationjones wrote:Does anyone have a pinout for the 20-pin expansion header on the back? If I could access the state of the button matrix directly it would open up some awesome DIY expander options.

Alex at WMD emailed me back and wrote:Will start at pin 1 which is bottom Right of the 20 pin header. Then go Right Left and then up.
These are high (5V) when the connection is made. They are unbuffered so be careful connecting them without a resistor to anything. Do not use them as direct outputs to jacks without some sort of buffering.
1: 4-4
2: 4-3
3: 4-2
4: 4-1
5: 3-4
6: 3-3
7: 3-2
8: 3-1
9: 2-4
10: 2-3
11: 2-2
12: 2-1
13: 1-4
14: 1-3
15: 1-2
16: 1-1

17: Bank bit 0
18: Bank bit 1

19: Do not use (has to do with save and step)
20: Do not use (has to do with save and step)

If anyone manages to build a 4HP just-16-outputs trigger expander, I'd be SO into it. Heck just a 4HP with 8 outs for column 3 and 4 would be sweeeet.

WMDevices · Post by **WMDevices** » Tue Jul 11, 2017 10:36 am

anosou wrote:
desolationjones wrote:
desolationjones wrote:Does anyone have a pinout for the 20-pin expansion header on the back? If I could access the state of the button matrix directly it would open up some awesome DIY expander options.

Alex at WMD emailed me back and wrote:Will start at pin 1 which is bottom Right of the 20 pin header. Then go Right Left and then up.
These are high (5V) when the connection is made. They are unbuffered so be careful connecting them without a resistor to anything. Do not use them as direct outputs to jacks without some sort of buffering.
1: 4-4
2: 4-3
3: 4-2
4: 4-1
5: 3-4
6: 3-3
7: 3-2
8: 3-1
9: 2-4
10: 2-3
11: 2-2
12: 2-1
13: 1-4
14: 1-3
15: 1-2
16: 1-1

17: Bank bit 0
18: Bank bit 1

19: Do not use (has to do with save and step)
20: Do not use (has to do with save and step)
If anyone manages to build a 4HP just-16-outputs trigger expander, I'd be SO into it. Heck just a 4HP with 8 outs for column 3 and 4 would be sweeeet.

You better buffer it if you do, the outputs on the header are not protected.

anosou · Post by **anosou** » Tue Jul 11, 2017 2:45 pm

WMDevices wrote:
anosou wrote: If anyone manages to build a 4HP just-16-outputs trigger expander, I'd be SO into it. Heck just a 4HP with 8 outs for column 3 and 4 would be sweeeet.
You better buffer it if you do, the outputs on the header are not protected.

Noted, thanks for chiming in! I'm pretty much incompetent when it comes to these things but I trust in the expertise of others.

lootacow · Post by **lootacow** » Tue Jul 11, 2017 3:47 pm

This module is so dope. The funnest and most complex switch ive used. Thanks for making it!!

BaloErets · Post by **BaloErets** » Mon Oct 30, 2017 6:35 pm

Just picked one up this evening at Moog Audio here in Montreal. About to dive into an evening of patch madness

It's been awhile since I've been this excited about my 1st go with a module. Reminds me a bit of the time I picked up the VCAMatrix

WeepWow · Post by **WeepWow** » Mon Nov 06, 2017 9:56 am

Anyone have some quick patch ideas I could try on the SSM?

I've had mine for about 6 months, but havent used it much, (being distracted trying out different sequencers I have and other trigger/gate modules Tempi, Algorythm, Wangernumb, Verbos Seq Selector, Sputnik etc)

Want to hear some ideas of patching the various ins and outs on the SSM.

Thanks. Ken

BaloErets · Post by **BaloErets** » Mon Nov 06, 2017 5:49 pm

I really like sending a bunch of control voltages (LFOs, Envelopes, Random) and then send the outputs to multiple Sample and Hold inputs.

Really cool to sequence what’s going into the sample and hold, esp. when they are quantized and driving the 1v/oct of multiple VCOs.

I have a video I’ll probably upload tonight based on the above patch.

WeepWow · Post by **WeepWow** » Mon Nov 06, 2017 7:57 pm

Balo - Awesome, look forward to checking it out. thanks.

BaloErets · Post by **BaloErets** » Mon Nov 06, 2017 8:49 pm

[video][/video]

Disclaimer; It's Looooong

Will probably have another go at it in the future and try to cut it down to 1/2 it's length, but still kinda cool

khyber · Post by **khyber** » Thu Jan 11, 2018 4:13 pm

Does anyone have power issues with this module in combination with any other modules? I reracked my 6U case sporting a Synthrotek Deluxe Power supply (I've used the SSM with this power supply without issue before) and I've identified that the SSM is creating power up issues for my rig.

Modulargrid: https://www.modulargrid.net/e/racks/view/556084

When I power on my rig with the SSM attached I get a couple of the modules (including the SSM) fritzing out. I'm definitely not overloading my power supply but it looks like the -12V rail is the one that's having an issue. The SSM is plugged into a ribbon cable, I will try plugging it into the other power strip (a physical bus board) tonight, but I'm really scratching my head over what's going on here. I contacted WMD a few days ago and am waiting to hear back.

p@@@nts · Post by **p@@@nts** » Thu Jan 11, 2018 5:43 pm

BaloErets wrote:[video][/video]

Disclaimer; It's Looooong Will probably have another go at it in the future and try to cut it down to 1/2 it's length, but still kinda cool

Just watched this again and... rad!

If you have time and feel inclined, I’d love to know more about what’s going on in this patch!

behndy · Post by **behndy** » Thu Jan 11, 2018 5:46 pm

BaloErets wrote:[video][/video]

Disclaimer; It's Looooong Will probably have another go at it in the future and try to cut it down to 1/2 it's length, but still kinda cool

that suh, is VERY cool. beautiful stuff. thanks!

WMDevices · Post by **WMDevices** » Fri Jan 12, 2018 8:27 am

khyber wrote:Does anyone have power issues with this module in combination with any other modules? I reracked my 6U case sporting a Synthrotek Deluxe Power supply (I've used the SSM with this power supply without issue before) and I've identified that the SSM is creating power up issues for my rig.

Modulargrid: https://www.modulargrid.net/e/racks/view/556084

When I power on my rig with the SSM attached I get a couple of the modules (including the SSM) fritzing out. I'm definitely not overloading my power supply but it looks like the -12V rail is the one that's having an issue. The SSM is plugged into a ribbon cable, I will try plugging it into the other power strip (a physical bus board) tonight, but I'm really scratching my head over what's going on here. I contacted WMD a few days ago and am waiting to hear back.

The Synthrotek power is super crappy and can’t handle capacitive loads. The SSM has some 220uF caps on it to keep the op amps quiet and isolated. PLEASE get a better supply from TipTop, Make Noise or 4ms. You probably have a few $k of modules, don’t use the cheapest power supply. It’s like getting good tires, you’re safer and you won’t have to worry or have as many problems.

These issues keep coming up specifically with Synthrotek because he didn’t invest the engineering budget into making something good. You could also buy our Soft Start module which will solve the problem but is really just a band aid for a larger problem. Get a good supply and you will be very happy.

Please reach out again if you need to. Alex is super busy in NAMM prep and probably read it and thought he had already responded. Thanks!

khyber · Post by **khyber** » Sat Jan 13, 2018 3:17 pm

WMDevices wrote:
khyber wrote:Does anyone have power issues with this module in combination with any other modules? I reracked my 6U case sporting a Synthrotek Deluxe Power supply (I've used the SSM with this power supply without issue before) and I've identified that the SSM is creating power up issues for my rig.

Modulargrid: https://www.modulargrid.net/e/racks/view/556084

When I power on my rig with the SSM attached I get a couple of the modules (including the SSM) fritzing out. I'm definitely not overloading my power supply but it looks like the -12V rail is the one that's having an issue. The SSM is plugged into a ribbon cable, I will try plugging it into the other power strip (a physical bus board) tonight, but I'm really scratching my head over what's going on here. I contacted WMD a few days ago and am waiting to hear back.
The Synthrotek power is super crappy and can’t handle capacitive loads. The SSM has some 220uF caps on it to keep the op amps quiet and isolated. PLEASE get a better supply from TipTop, Make Noise or 4ms. You probably have a few $k of modules, don’t use the cheapest power supply. It’s like getting good tires, you’re safer and you won’t have to worry or have as many problems.

These issues keep coming up specifically with Synthrotek because he didn’t invest the engineering budget into making something good. You could also buy our Soft Start module which will solve the problem but is really just a band aid for a larger problem. Get a good supply and you will be very happy.

Please reach out again if you need to. Alex is super busy in NAMM prep and probably read it and thought he had already responded. Thanks!

Ok thought this might be part of it. I'll give it a go and let you know if I still experience an issue. Thanks WMD!

BrokenBo · Post by **BrokenBo** » Sat Mar 17, 2018 6:09 am

i have the rxmx and use it also for cv controllable, cv routing /mixing / scanning, which is fun.
will it make sense to add a SSM if i already have a rxmx ?

mdoudoroff · Post by **mdoudoroff** » Sat Mar 17, 2018 7:19 am

BrokenBo wrote:i have the rxmx and use it also for cv controllable, cv routing /mixing / scanning, which is fun.
will it make sense to add a SSM if i already have a rxmx ?

Short answer: quite possibly. I’ve been using both for some time and do not think of them as being particularly related to each other.

If you’re ready to have a sequential switch in your life, then the SSM is one of the very best choices (if you have the space) because it smartly augments the basic sequential switch concept in many useful ways. For many of us, the SSM is something of a “core module”, like Maths or whatever. (I do not own or use the expander.)

(And it’s always nice to hear someone else enjoying the RxMx.)

BrokenBo · Post by **BrokenBo** » Sat Mar 17, 2018 7:28 am

well i love the rxmx. using it for both audo and cv and it creates wonderful stuff with a very intuitive "modular" interface. i see it often used only for audio. but i think it can do awesome stuff for cv also.

but i guess the ssm brings more complex routing, sequencing options. very intrigued by this module.

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