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Got me a Line6 echo park........nice tape delay emulations in there.
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I just picked up 2 of the Malekko Bright 600 pedals and they rule! :sb: Initially bought one from Analogue Haven and loved it so much that I drove down to Portland the next day and bought another one. And FWIW I sold my MF104 to fund the purchase of these. Totally worth it.
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Personally, I've posted quite a bit about delays here on Muff's and so have others. Here's a Fave: Delays all formats

This one has some great demos of the Analogue Systems units: RS-290, 295 & 390 demos

And here is me gettin' cold-stoopit with the RS-290 as a comb-filter.
You can also use the Advanced Search feature and select "Search for all terms". Then enter "Analog* delay*". You'll get a metric ass-load of hits. You can refine it by searching for author "Kent" since I contributed to almost all of these delay threads in the past.

Not to be a cockswain, but a lot of energy (mine and that of others) has been expended on this subject and there is some good, helpful & meaty information in those not-so-old posts.

Also, avoid the DOD 680(?) delay. The blue one with the AC cord attached. They are overpriced for what they are.
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i dont think im going to wait for the JH delay
i might build my own memory man clone
i have the mn3005s and the schematics now
it doesnt look too hard either

a bunch of my friend just got space echos and im so damn jealous
but im trying hard not to join the club
as i think it is a bad investment
only so much tape in the world
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Luka wrote:a bunch of my friend just got space echos and im so damn jealous
but im trying hard not to join the club
as i think it is a bad investment
only so much tape in the world
eh? Afaik you can still buy new 1/4" tape many places! Tape won't run out in your life time, I don't think. Buy two reels and you're set for life, you can make like a hundred tape loops from a single reel.
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really?
i thought tape was no longer being made
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Luka wrote:really?
i thought tape was no longer being made
they started again, hehe:

http://www.thomann.de/gb/recording_tape.html

for instance : 700-some meters for 39 euro. I like using like, 2 meter loops.
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Post by RetBody »

Best source for analog tape right now is: http://www.atrtape.com/

Really, really great stuff. RMGI bought the BASF formulations and part of their equipment, but they have been having serious QC issues with the binders and lots of the tape is coming sticking and sheddy right from the plant.

The ATR tape is pimp, tho.

And on the main topic: I wants a Malekko delay and a Spring Chicken module, dangit!
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euro rack analog delays?

why do people keep talking about eventide pitchfactors, aren't they D*G*T*L standalone/pedal pitch shifters?

i wish people would stick a bit more rigidly to the sub-forum titles and post titles. it seems any time anyone wants some info on "a good analogue compressor", we get 57 posts on why volta is better than cream cheese, or that kettle of fish is better than this one...

myself, i use a pair of blacet time machines, but they are out of production and not in your format, so what do i know?

they do sound fantastic though. ;)

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i had a roland re-201 for a couple of years and sold it due to space/financial/maintenance & upkeep issues, but i do kind of regret it now. it did sound truly glorious. if i ever see an sre-555 for the right price it will be mine! i have 2km of the right kind of tape, just waiting for it. ;)
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HexEnduction wrote:I just picked up 2 of the Malekko Bright 600 pedals and they rule! :sb: Initially bought one from Analogue Haven and loved it so much that I drove down to Portland the next day and bought another one. And FWIW I sold my MF104 to fund the purchase of these. Totally worth it.
Oooh, I'm interested to hear more on this. I don't think I'd part with my MF-104, but I have been very interested in the 600 pedals and have a hard time deciding between the Bright/Dark. What in particular to do like about the Bright 600 over the MF-104?
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felix wrote:
HexEnduction wrote:I just picked up 2 of the Malekko Bright 600 pedals and they rule! :sb: Initially bought one from Analogue Haven and loved it so much that I drove down to Portland the next day and bought another one. And FWIW I sold my MF104 to fund the purchase of these. Totally worth it.
Oooh, I'm interested to hear more on this. I don't think I'd part with my MF-104, but I have been very interested in the 600 pedals and have a hard time deciding between the Bright/Dark. What in particular to do like about the Bright 600 over the MF-104?
The MF-104 is a great pedal, don't get me wrong. I just felt like I was under-using the CV aspect of it and it didn't make much sense to keep it around anymore. I think it's safe to say the CV control is hands down the coolest feature of the MF104 and if that feature is being neglected then what's the point, eh?

The Bright 600 sounds warm but really picks out the high-end/mid sounds that the MF 104 seemed to miss sometimes. And the oscillation/feedback on the 600 B is great too---they put some magic in there. :alien: Also has an incredibly clean signal path and the option to switch between the buffered/true bypass was a nice touch. It's as if they took the best aspects of a digital and combined it with the best aspects of a bucket brigade. I went Bright because it seemed easier in the long run to "darken" up a sound with other outboard gear and I also prefered the sensitivity of the feedback.

Plus, the price is great and having 2 of the exact same delays satisfied my OCD. Two cyclops robots staring at you in the dark is a great feeling.:ninja:
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Post by richard »

there is no "seems" about it, the MF104 has NO top end at all especially when the longer delay setting is used - the whole top end is just shaved off - its not just a matter of tone, it adds delay to lower notes while higher notes pass through completely unaffected - quite odd.

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Analog delays...who needs em!

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richard wrote:there is no "seems" about it, the MF104 has NO top end at all especially when the longer delay setting is used - the whole top end is just shaved off - its not just a matter of tone, it adds delay to lower notes while higher notes pass through completely unaffected - quite odd.

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It must have been in another analog delay thread that this was mentioned, but this due to the low pass filter used to filter out the BBD clock signal, which at slower clock speeds (which increase the delay time), creeps into the audible range. This is why it's darker at the longer delay times, as the LP filter needs to be at even lower frequency to filter out the clock.
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At the risk of sounding spammy, the E600B is IMO more suited for synthesizers...it, like all analog delays is still plenty dark...its just brighter than our super dark dark version.

BBDs are very noisy, so to make them less noisy you slice off the top of the spectrum. That's why analog delays are "warm" sounding. the darker the delay the cleaner it will sound. A good delay finds this balance between distortion and brightness in the repeats...that and how it decays, oscillates etc

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i think in 16 years we'll have that damn euro module released that was supposed to be done forever ago...

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Malekko wrote:i think in 16 years we'll have that damn euro module released that was supposed to be done forever ago...

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Moog MF104z analog delay, no question. :yay:
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wwbjd wrote:I have to agree with the RE-201 (or 501, etc). Once I got it, I usually ended up passing everything through it, all the time. Even with just the reverb.
I have to agree with this, though sometimes I'll run sources through it just to overdrive the (sensitive, at least on synths) input and not have ANY "wet" signal. It livens up my Nord G2 nicely.

I'd also check out the Ibanez AD-202, which is a great sounding analog delay without the quirks of the Space Echo. Its flanger is also pretty nice/usable.
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E580 Resampling Mini-Delay. We are working on the Tape emulation as we speak.
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chinard wrote: I just wish moog would stop with the stomp box format and give us a 3u or 5u option for this stuff already.
yes !!

+ it'd be sweet if the panel geeks on here would make some panels to convert the moogerfoogers to fit in euro, if you ditch the footswitch, the PCBs would fit (i think)
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I'm very happy with mine, Maxon AD999. Nearly 1 second analog delay, yeah !
But it's a guitar pedal, not a patchable module as Doepfer BBD (but these doepfer delays are rather short in time).

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I use this (analog)..
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and this (digital)...
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and this (hybrid)...
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I love 'em all. The older lexicon digital units have a really unique sound, very precise but band limited like analog, very useful.
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I've gone delay crazy in the last 5 months..
Boss DM-2, Moog, Carbon Copy, Ibanez ad-200, Strymon El Capistan, RE-201, Delta Labs rack, DD-7..

Moog is my favourite!
The El Capistan is an amazing tape emulator.. sounds great
original DM-2 has the coolest feedback
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I'm a big fan of the Roland re-210 space echo... I would love to be able to get this Boss guitar pedal version modified to fit my eurorack system
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I'm really amped about the E580 Resampling Mini-Delay also!!!
We really need some good delay options in EurocrackLand
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