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Search gave me no specific favorites for output modules, although I’m sure it has been discussed in the past. So…

What are your preferred output modules and why?
For what general size system?
For live or studio use?
Stereo or?
What applications… tone add or clean sound… etc.

I use all of mine in the studio. A couple are stereo (or pseudo). They are all available at once into a large studio mixer. Size wise... I have about 126 active modules. I would say most are on average between 10-12 HP (which I guess is 11HP – oddly enough).

ERICA SYNTHS BLACK OUTPUT V1 – 3 ins and stereo out. Manual panning of 2 channels and cv pan on 3rd channel. Great quality in build and seemingly un-affects the sound. Keeps the bass nice.

WORNG SOUNDSTAGE – 21 inputs – each spatially defined along with filter definition. The overall filter depth and output level are cv controlled for the stereo output. Very versatile. Drones galore but also using switches, faders or vca’s to allow voices into which inputs is cool.

EMW PSEUDO STEREO – intended as a pseudo stereo thickener for waveforms in patches, I use it as an odd mono to stereo output that is just a static thickener, basically to my ears.

For mono outs – I just use my VCA’s:

WMD/SSF AMPLITUDE – great all around VCA can add tone or not. Full controls. I have two.
ERICA SYNTHS BLACK VCA v2 – quality build adds a little darkness.
TIPTOP AUDIO VCA – clean sound, good function. Small HP.
INTELLIJEL uVCA II – two pure clean VCA’s – good for audio or CV.
BEHRINGER ARP 2500 1005 MODAMP – still getting into this odd ball. Colors sound. ?
BEHRINGER ARP 2500 1006 FILTAMP – hard to describe. Worth the price just to find out.
DOEPFER A-135-1 VC MIXER – last resort VCA. Soft response – does so many things as a VC mixer, have only used it as a stock VCA maybe twice.

Not a lot of CV control in my scheme, besides the VCA's. I just jam live improv and am used to this simple schematic.

I know there are a number of awesome complex mixers that work as output modules (w/ huge mix in sections). I prefer the smaller ones at this point.

But hey, what are you rolling with?
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Wmd performance output is the cleanest I’ve had maybe hard to find now though sadly 😞
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I use an old Mackie 12ch mixer. I reduce the raw synth output level using one of the same Doepfer Quad VCA/Mixer you mentioned then I use the individual outs for each channel which are then fed into the Mackie. I use four of those Soundmachines CV Strip thingies (Lightstrip) to control the individual outs of the Doepfer. This makes it easy to apply different FX routings for each of the four outs from the Doepfer. And those Lightstrips can do some neat tricks as well, so moving between (or mixing) any of the four separate outs is simple and the red LED lights show me exactly where the levels are set with a glance. You don't even have to ~slide~ between Lightstrip settings, you can go directly to a level of your choice by touching it in, or out as well. Even has a motion memory.

I usually run one of the four outs as "straight out from the VCOs" (no VCF) .... another that includes VCF ... a third is an especially energetic ring modulator sound*** .... fourth is wavefolded/FM.

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Original SSF Vortices mixer into Joranalogue TX for line outs. I’ve had Vortices since the beginning and had taken the character it adds for granted. After a bit of recent experimenting with my case and bypassing it, I quickly understood what ear fatigue was. It’s a part of my sound that I never appreciated I had. Love it.
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Vermona is a clean and nice sounding output module.
Love mine. It adds something like an analog mixing table
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I use a WMD Pro Output in the studio. When I take a skiff to play out, I use whatever FX module I put at the end. It could be Mimeophon, a Clouds clone, or one of my FX Aids. However I just ordered this Victor Alpha 1 from Modulaire Maritime.

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personaly use the combo : jumble heng (smaller worng soundstage) ->polydactil versio->wmd SCPL--> NI sono abitus
for 18hp (if my quick calcul are good ) you have :
mixer with voice filtering
multiband compression
EQ
balanced and phones out

all in stereo , i find it realy nice for small systemes , perfect for me
i have and more room i will take a bigger EQ , for easier dialing
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WMD Pro Output. Before I got it I was having a lot noise in live situations- balanced outs cleaned it right up.

(I love Soundstage too, but not exactly using it as an “output” module since I’m feeding it into WMD PM)
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I keep seeing the WMD output module mentioned as people's preferred output option. Is there something about it that something like the Joranalogue output module doesn't do in terms of providing a clean output?
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I use Joranalogue transmit. It's great, sounds awesome, and has balanced outs. I have 2 running into my symphony I/O for studio use so I can have a bit of separation once things are in the box.
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soundular wrote: Sat Mar 18, 2023 12:00 pm I keep seeing the WMD output module mentioned as people's preferred output option. Is there something about it that something like the Joranalogue output module doesn't do in terms of providing a clean output?
There's definitely a good amount of info and an explanation why the WMD Pro Out has been so highly regarded, but you'll have to dig a little for it. Most of the good stuff is contained in a couple of threads if I remember correctly, so when you find it you'll know. I'm not sure if the Joranalogue was out or compared at the time, but I do know the reasoning behind the WMD is well laid out, somewhere in this forum.
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analogbrainsurgeon wrote: Sat Mar 18, 2023 12:37 pm
soundular wrote: Sat Mar 18, 2023 12:00 pm I keep seeing the WMD output module mentioned as people's preferred output option. Is there something about it that something like the Joranalogue output module doesn't do in terms of providing a clean output?
There's definitely a good amount of info and an explanation why the WMD Pro Out has been so highly regarded, but you'll have to dig a little for it. Most of the good stuff is contained in a couple of threads if I remember correctly, so when you find it you'll know. I'm not sure if the Joranalogue was out or compared at the time, but I do know the reasoning behind the WMD is well laid out, somewhere in this forum.
Well if you come across it, let me know! All I've found is people saying that they like it better than anything else they've tried. I'd just like to know why they weren't able to get the same results with something else.
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I think it has been around a lot longer than Joranalogue’s, so more people are familiar with it. I can’t speak to any relative pros and cons though…


There are still some new ones out there for sale:

https://wigglehunt.com/?query=WMD+Pro+O ... sort=price

I got mine used fairly inexpensively.
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MasterOne because i work in my studio only, and I do mixing in the rack. It may be overkill for a smaller system, but the CGM can expand to 128 channels, so it can handle whatever you throw at it. Crystal clear, clean balanced output. I’ve had both the WMD Pro Output and the Joranalogue Transmit 2 in the past, but I prefer MasterOne. The downside is you need at least one group and one stereo channel to use it, but it’s really designed for multi-channel use.
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Zymos wrote: Sat Mar 18, 2023 1:23 pm I think it has been around a lot longer than Joranalogue’s, so more people are familiar with it. I can’t speak to any relative pros and cons though…


There are still some new ones out there for sale:

https://wigglehunt.com/?query=WMD+Pro+O ... sort=price

I got mine used fairly inexpensively.
Fair enough! I just thought I'd see if there was I'm missing here. Thanks!
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There's definitely a few useful threads about this on MW. This one has some good info:
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I have the WMD Pro Output and the Instruo Cuir. I haven't noticed a difference in the sound between the two, but I do prefer having independent level control for the headphone driver and balanced out that Cuir has, and it's 2hp smaller. Haven't used the Joranalogue Transmit, but I can only imagine theirs is a solid choice based on the Joranalogue modules I've had. I think I would have a slight preference now for the Transmit because of the XLR jacks. XLR just feels more physically stable.
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closedLoop wrote: Sat Mar 18, 2023 1:58 pm There's definitely a few useful threads about this on MW. This one has some good info:
viewtopic.php?p=3774716

I have the WMD Pro Output and the Instruo Cuir. I haven't noticed a difference in the sound between the two, but I do prefer having independent level control for the headphone driver and balanced out that Cuir has, and it's 2hp smaller. Haven't used the Joranalogue Transmit, but I can only imagine theirs is a solid choice based on the Joranalogue modules I've had. I think I would have a slight preference now for the Transmit because of the XLR jacks. XLR just feels more physically stable.
That's perfect. Thanks for sharing your thoughts and the link.
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I use the bored brain output, I really like the cueing options and it takes 2 stereo inputs so its easy to have more than one mix going out. It also has a clickless mute for the outputs which keeps the headphones on. Really handy module.
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Vermona TAi4 - You really don't want dials on output modules due to matching, hence the three way rocker switches are the best way. My iron core Vermona sits just after my og CGM if Im using it..
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+1 for the Boredbrain Monitr. Wish the panel was aluminum, but otherwise great module.

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i use a make noise rosie most of the time, i also have an alm hpo & lzx visual cortex for audio and video output in my video instrument.
the rosie has a manually crossfaded mono pair & a stereo fx return/hi gain input. its the module ive had the longest so i must like the way it sounds. its got a red light when the limiter engages, but thats usually kina obvious. not ultra high fi but not a dirty sound and its mixing capabilities, tho minimal, are nice
the hpo is just so i have an audio output beside my video output; some crts sing out more than others from video vcos so its nice to have some program sound over and around that so its not just an accidental drone. the visual cortex does so much video wise, im lucky to have one

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I recently replaced my chain of mixer, input and output modules with an ES-9 and I'm very happy with it, both in my studio and in standalone settings. I don't mind using an iPad with TouchOSC for mixing duties, downside is that it accounts for almost half of the total power consumption on the 12v rails on my rack
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Tesseract Tex Mix
Quad VCA's with two mono sends, stereo returns and two buses
https://www.tesseractmodular.com/eurora ... es/tex-mix

I have two monos, so that's 8 VCA's with two sends and stereo returns and a que bus that I send to a Monitor output.
THe returns are have gain so you can easily get Line level back up to Eurorack level.

There's a stereo module also but they're not VCAs, everything else is the same though.
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Joranalogue TX2. Use two of them for quad. I couldn't be happier with the quality. Beautiful, clean audio out.
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ADDAC 800X for me. The Hammond Audio transformers sound greats, and the selectable ground reference is a nice feature. I don't really think about my output much anymore, which I think is the point. It just works.
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