General new release complainers' thread

Cwejman, Doepfer, Erica, MakeNoise, Mutable instruments, TipTop Audio, Analogue Solutions, and much more! The world’s most popular format.
Be sure to look into MANUFACTURER SUB-FORA as well..

Moderators: Kent, luketeaford, Joe.

User avatar
Black
Common Wiggler
Posts: 141
Joined: Fri Mar 13, 2020 7:37 am
Location: Germany

re: General new release complainers' thread

Post by Black »

Samuel Geai wrote: Fri May 13, 2022 4:54 am A delay that repeats sounds before they even occur !?
How do you know?

Yes. I am the beta tester. You must understand, it only works in generative set-ups. By simply accelerating the clock into light-speed. You only choose the future date and time, then it accelerates accordingly. Of course it takes a few minutes, depending on the distance. When the orange LED stops blinking, you have reached the selected date and time, so you are listening to the music of the future.

Of course I am complaining! Because it uses a menu with a date and time picker. I want a big analogue knob instead, as I hate menus. But, well, privately I used the module in a hidden mode to see what will be fashionable in 2037 and I have to tell you that everybody will want menues then, which is quite irritlating to me.
Last edited by Black on Fri May 13, 2022 11:34 am, edited 1 time in total.
User avatar
Arrandan
Learning to Wiggle
Posts: 46
Joined: Sat Apr 09, 2022 5:35 pm
Contact:

Re: General new release complainers' thread

Post by Arrandan »

Samuel Geai wrote: Fri May 13, 2022 4:54 am A delay that repeats sounds before they even occur !?

(☉。☉)!
That's called a preverb.
Each day I publish a new track after a jam on my modular synth
YouTube - One Track Per Day
SoundCloud - One Track Per Day
User avatar
BlinkyLights
Super Deluxe Wiggler
Posts: 1826
Joined: Wed Feb 13, 2019 12:16 am

Re: General new release complainers' thread

Post by BlinkyLights »

Heheverb
User avatar
ProggyBoog
Wiggling with Experience
Posts: 337
Joined: Sat Apr 10, 2021 3:42 pm
Location: Portland, OR

Re: General new release complainers' thread

Post by ProggyBoog »

Arrandan wrote: Fri May 13, 2022 8:02 am
Samuel Geai wrote: Fri May 13, 2022 4:54 am A delay that repeats sounds before they even occur !?

(☉。☉)!
That's called a preverb.
I thought it was a Through-Zero Delay?
User avatar
Kosmikos
Super Deluxe Wiggler
Posts: 1253
Joined: Thu Nov 26, 2020 1:21 pm
Location: London
Contact:

Re: General new release complainers' thread

Post by Kosmikos »

If you are into DIY, you can make any delay modules to repeat sounds before they play by simply replacing all the circuit’s capacitors by flux capacitors.
User avatar
DCDanno
Veteran Wiggler
Posts: 655
Joined: Sun Aug 04, 2019 3:47 pm
Location: Ozarks

Re: General new release complainers' thread

Post by DCDanno »

Kosmikos wrote: Fri May 13, 2022 4:44 pm If you are into DIY, you can make any delay modules to repeat sounds before they play by simply replacing all the circuit’s capacitors by flux capacitors.
Yeah, tried it, but my case didn't have the required 1.21 gigawatts.
User avatar
Pelsea
Super Deluxe Wiggler
Posts: 1554
Joined: Thu Apr 19, 2018 11:46 am
Location: Santa Cruz CA
Contact:

Re: General new release complainers' thread

Post by Pelsea »

The use of thiotimoline in silicon doping is well understood, and development for AI is ongoing. It has not been successful however—as soon as the circuit gets a look at the future it shuts down.
Books and tutorials on modular synthesis at http://peterelsea.com
Patch responsibly.
pqe
diggida
Wiggling with Experience
Posts: 283
Joined: Sat Jan 04, 2020 7:04 pm
Location: Los Angeles

Re: General new release complainers' thread

Post by diggida »

Arrandan wrote: Thu May 12, 2022 2:47 am I wanted to post this in the SB22 thread but refrained to keep things positive over there. So hurray for a complainers' complaints thread where we complain about complaints!

Eventides launched Mishmash https://www.eventideaudio.com/rackmount/misha/ - a sequencer that "utilizes a unique, interval-based approach to playing and creating melodies". I mean, what does that even mean? Possibly it refers to Euclides' approach of defining every note by perfect fifths, which we all know caused eternal havoc ever after. So yeah, a good path to follow :foul:

But it gets better. One of the features is this: "Tone row based sequencer inspired by the classic compositional technique used in serial music". Everybody in academic music (you know, all three of them) will love this! For the rest of us, it's "Hey, why can't I use this note? Ah - I need to use these seven other notes before, even if that sounds crap". I love what Schoenberg did to break up standard harmony and to invent what makes horror soundtracks sound so cool, but first liberating all the tones to then bind them even more rigidly into rows "to keep them all equal" was not his finest hour.

Had to get that off my chest :despair:
Can I complain about this interpretation of the emancipation of dissonance?
User avatar
Arrandan
Learning to Wiggle
Posts: 46
Joined: Sat Apr 09, 2022 5:35 pm
Contact:

Re: General new release complainers' thread

Post by Arrandan »

diggida wrote: Fri May 13, 2022 11:39 pm Can I complain about this interpretation of the emancipation of dissonance?
Yes please! So that I can complain about being complained at.
Each day I publish a new track after a jam on my modular synth
YouTube - One Track Per Day
SoundCloud - One Track Per Day
User avatar
KSS
Super Deluxe Wiggler
Posts: 8701
Joined: Mon Jan 25, 2016 7:28 am

Re: General new release complainers' thread

Post by KSS »

Pelsea wrote: Fri May 13, 2022 9:55 pm It has not been successful however—as soon as the circuit gets a look at the future it shuts down.
Must be part of an ongoing WOPR project. It figured that out in 1983. "A strange game. The only way to win is not to play."
Treat utility modules as stars instead of backup singers.
Treat power supplies like Rockstars instead of roadies!
Chase magic sound, not magic parts.
User avatar
Arrandan
Learning to Wiggle
Posts: 46
Joined: Sat Apr 09, 2022 5:35 pm
Contact:

Re: General new release complainers' thread

Post by Arrandan »

What? No complaining today? What is wrong with you guys!? :sstorm:
Each day I publish a new track after a jam on my modular synth
YouTube - One Track Per Day
SoundCloud - One Track Per Day
User avatar
cbm
Eardrill
Posts: 2813
Joined: Thu Dec 04, 2008 10:07 pm
Location: Alameda, California

Re: General new release complainers' thread

Post by cbm »

Arrandan wrote: Sun May 15, 2022 4:22 pm What? No complaining today? What is wrong with you guys!? :sstorm:
A fine example of meta-complaining.
Chris Muir
Eardrill Archive - http://www.eardrill.com (on permanent vacation)
User avatar
Arrandan
Learning to Wiggle
Posts: 46
Joined: Sat Apr 09, 2022 5:35 pm
Contact:

Re: General new release complainers' thread

Post by Arrandan »

cbm wrote: Sun May 15, 2022 4:28 pm
Arrandan wrote: Sun May 15, 2022 4:22 pm What? No complaining today? What is wrong with you guys!? :sstorm:
A fine example of meta-complaining.
There should be a thread on that.
Each day I publish a new track after a jam on my modular synth
YouTube - One Track Per Day
SoundCloud - One Track Per Day
User avatar
Foghorn
Super Deluxe Wiggler
Posts: 1484
Joined: Thu Oct 01, 2015 1:53 pm
Location: 39° 207' N, -82°1723' W

Re: General new release complainers' thread

Post by Foghorn »

Samuel Geai wrote: Fri May 13, 2022 4:54 am
A delay that repeats sounds before they even occur !?
(☉。☉)!
The solution here is simple.
Delay everything except the signal that you want to come first :hmm:
Stay Calm - We are still in this forever
.......Steven Banks wannabe.......
User avatar
Kattefjaes
Super Deluxe Wiggler
Posts: 1855
Joined: Thu Dec 12, 2019 9:47 am
Location: UK

Re: General new release complainers' thread

Post by Kattefjaes »

Jazzman wrote: Wed May 11, 2022 12:45 pm
Buttons ARE toys wrote: Wed May 11, 2022 12:30 pm
Jazzman wrote: Wed May 11, 2022 11:59 am
Complaining about an issue leads to creative solutions. So complaining is the first step of that creative process. Changing a paradigm isn't easy, but our brains can handle it. See; brain plasticity.
I'm talking about a particular kind of complaining which often has no solution. The sort you're talking about is valid criticism, which comes from a place of understanding and has a goal in mind.
case in point.

Moog or Behringer release a product that has a pastel or red panel. People come on to that products thread and complain about the color. Others come on the thread and complain that people are complaining about the colors of the panel.

Moog releases a black panel version and with B, a third party designs new skin panel choices.

So you have two types of complaining here. One type that leeds to a creative solution, the other is simply people complaining about other people complaining.

Which category does this thread fall under?
I hate this question and really hope that it will be fixed in future firmware.
1n
Super Deluxe Wiggler
Posts: 1149
Joined: Mon Feb 06, 2017 8:25 am

Re: General new release complainers' thread

Post by 1n »

i like the old complaints a lot better
User avatar
NoGuitars
Common Wiggler
Posts: 92
Joined: Fri Dec 17, 2021 5:10 am

Re: General new release complainers' thread

Post by NoGuitars »

1n wrote: Fri May 20, 2022 8:53 am i like the old complaints a lot better
True!
Vintage Analog complaints have more depth.
Digital is harsh and one dimensional.

:mrgreen:
User avatar
DCDanno
Veteran Wiggler
Posts: 655
Joined: Sun Aug 04, 2019 3:47 pm
Location: Ozarks

Re: General new release complainers' thread

Post by DCDanno »

NoGuitars wrote: Fri May 20, 2022 10:05 am
1n wrote: Fri May 20, 2022 8:53 am i like the old complaints a lot better
True!
Vintage Analog complaints have more depth.
Digital is harsh and one dimensional.

:mrgreen:
Stop living in the past. Double-blind placebo studies comparing analog and digital complaints show no discernible difference with a confidence interval over 90%. Facts.
Lurker
Wiggling with Experience
Posts: 355
Joined: Wed Aug 11, 2021 11:35 am

Re: General new release complainers' thread

Post by Lurker »

my feelings dont care about your facts, facts are cold and sterile, not as musical
User avatar
Buttons ARE toys
Veteran Wiggler
Posts: 556
Joined: Wed Sep 14, 2016 9:24 am
Location: Earth

Re: General new release complainers' thread

Post by Buttons ARE toys »

NoGuitars wrote: Fri May 20, 2022 10:05 am
1n wrote: Fri May 20, 2022 8:53 am i like the old complaints a lot better
True!
Vintage Analog complaints have more depth.
Digital is harsh and one dimensional.

:mrgreen:
What's sad about the current state of complaining though, is while you can have all the analog complaints you want, the digital monopoly on communication these days means you have no choice but to digitize them before they can actually reach an audience. Personally I'm looking into going back to poison pen letters, analog radio broadcasting, and smoke signals to express my dissatisfaction in all its undiluted spite.
Astronomical Dusk - a web radio show of synthetic delights and collected oddities. Airs semi-monthly at astronomical dusk.
User avatar
Pelsea
Super Deluxe Wiggler
Posts: 1554
Joined: Thu Apr 19, 2018 11:46 am
Location: Santa Cruz CA
Contact:

Re: General new release complainers' thread

Post by Pelsea »

NoGuitars wrote: Fri May 20, 2022 10:05 am
1n wrote: Fri May 20, 2022 8:53 am i like the old complaints a lot better
True!
Vintage Analog complaints have more depth.
Digital is harsh and one dimensional.

:mrgreen:
Absolutely true! Proper complaining needs beer and a pub, not this soulless online stuff.
Books and tutorials on modular synthesis at http://peterelsea.com
Patch responsibly.
pqe
User avatar
scuto
Veteran Wiggler
Posts: 592
Joined: Tue Aug 23, 2016 6:32 pm
Location: NE US

Re: General new release complainers' thread

Post by scuto »

Arrandan wrote: Fri May 13, 2022 8:02 am
Samuel Geai wrote: Fri May 13, 2022 4:54 am A delay that repeats sounds before they even occur !?

(☉。☉)!
That's called a preverb.
Sounds preverbted to me.
Post Reply

Return to “1U & 3U Eurorack Modules”