Buchla 200 in Euro format (Tiptop)

[topherc]

I've had luck with a Hexinverter Mutant Brain... Triggers the 281t just fine.

It triggers the 281t but mine won't trigger the Source of Uncertainty.

[BarePanda]

As a UK resident; I guess I'll be looking at this a while longer after March then

[morphmuse]

As a UK resident; I guess I'll be looking at this a while longer after March then

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How does that model compare to 4X of the 2HP No Pass Filter? Would you say your module has better tonal characteristics, and does the panel come in natural aluminum and black? I'm not into yellow paneled modules....

[BarePanda]

As a UK resident; I guess I'll be looking at this a while longer after March then

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How does that model compare to 4X of the 2HP No Pass Filter? Would you say your module has better tonal characteristics, and does the panel come in natural aluminum and black? I'm not into yellow paneled modules....

It's tonal characteristics are what I will charitably call "limited", though it's certainly doing the job for now!

Though I've noticed that some of my patch cables just don't go into the sockets the third channel CV input seems to somehow blend into the Unity module next to it?!? and the knobs are permanently stuck in position! though you do have a choice of colour (whatever cardboard you can find)

Interestingly though: it too does not utilise vactrols!

[bhmcc]

I've had luck with a Hexinverter Mutant Brain... Triggers the 281t just fine.

It triggers the 281t but mine won't trigger the Source of Uncertainty.

I just tested this by sending a clock out from the Mutant Brain into several different inputs on my 266t and it triggers just fine.

[ersatzplanet]

I wonder if the response of a vactrol could be replicated with Silicon Solar Cell technology. Of course solar cells produce voltages not changes in resistance, but I wonder if the tech could be adapted easier.

[ersatzplanet]

As a UK resident; I guess I'll be looking at this a while longer after March then

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I used to print pictures of the modules I wanted onto full page sticker stock paper and stick it onto blank panels in my rig. From a distance it looked like the real thing.

[topherc]

I've had luck with a Hexinverter Mutant Brain... Triggers the 281t just fine.

It triggers the 281t but mine won't trigger the Source of Uncertainty.

I just tested this by sending a clock out from the Mutant Brain into several different inputs on my 266t and it triggers just fine.

Interesting... could you share your mutant brain settings? I've tried tweaking trigger length etc but no luck so far.

[bhmcc]

I've had luck with a Hexinverter Mutant Brain... Triggers the 281t just fine.

It triggers the 281t but mine won't trigger the Source of Uncertainty.

I just tested this by sending a clock out from the Mutant Brain into several different inputs on my 266t and it triggers just fine.

Interesting... could you share your mutant brain settings? I've tried tweaking trigger length etc but no luck so far.

You bet - here ya go. I was using output 12 which is just the incoming MIDI clock from my Digitakt. It triggered fluctuating random voltages as well as both quantized and stored random voltages, Didn't try anything beyond that. Hope this helps!

Brett

[nectarios]

I am also using a default trigger of 15ms on my Mutant Brain, but my Gate 12 is the clock that is a 4ms trigger.
The 4ms trigger did trigger my 281t but it did not trigger my 266t, so I tried a Gate out that is a 15ms trigger.
Here's the strange thing, if I plug directly from the Mutant Brain Gate 10 (the Default 15ms trigger), it triggers the 281t but it still does not trigger the 266t.
If I mult Gate 10 to a passive mult (I use Dreadbox passive mult and Intellijel 1u Switched multiples) and then plug from the multiple to 266t, it triggers the S&H and SRV but not QRV and it still triggers the 281t. Same goes if I use a buffered multiple.

I use the Dubldeca to clock the rig from a 16th pattern from the Octatrack, so I never realised the Mutant Brain has problems trigger QRV on the 266t. Bummer.

[bhmcc]

Interesting. I'm hoping some really smart individual will disect all of this info and splain it to us.

[nectarios]

Even an LFO from the Octatrack/Dubldeca will trigger the QRV on the 266t, but nothing from Mutant Brain, will.
I also tried the gate out and any note length from a tiny trigger to a legato note, but nothing works.

Glad I decided to add the Octatrack/Dubldeca combo.

[The Junglechrist]

Hey there folks! I just made a new video about some ways I like to patch the 258t and 257t together as some sort of a complex oscillator (forgive the clickbait title and thumbnail but I couldn't help myself hahaha).

[Spanningtree]

Hey there folks! I just made a new video about some ways I like to patch the 258t and 257t together as some sort of a complex oscillator (forgive the clickbait title and thumbnail but I couldn't help myself hahaha).

Now that is just awesome! Thank you very much for sharing that.

[dave999z]

Hey there folks! I just made a new video about some ways I like to patch the 258t and 257t together as some sort of a complex oscillator (forgive the clickbait title and thumbnail but I couldn't help myself hahaha).

Agree. This is an excellent video! I learned a lot.

[topherc]

I've had luck with a Hexinverter Mutant Brain... Triggers the 281t just fine.

It triggers the 281t but mine won't trigger the Source of Uncertainty.

I just tested this by sending a clock out from the Mutant Brain into several different inputs on my 266t and it triggers just fine.

Interesting... could you share your mutant brain settings? I've tried tweaking trigger length etc but no luck so far.

You bet - here ya go. I was using output 12 which is just the incoming MIDI clock from my Digitakt. It triggered fluctuating random voltages as well as both quantized and stored random voltages, Didn't try anything beyond that. Hope this helps!

Brett

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Thanks for sharing. Can't see anything I'm doing differently. I'm using a 15ms trigger as well. No luck

[topherc]

Even an LFO from the Octatrack/Dubldeca will trigger the QRV on the 266t, but nothing from Mutant Brain, will.
I also tried the gate out and any note length from a tiny trigger to a legato note, but nothing works.

Glad I decided to add the Octatrack/Dubldeca combo.

I'm the same. Have Octatrack & Mutant Brain combo. But nothing I try will trigger the 266t - Just weird that bhmcc has his working but ours isn't. Maybe slight differences in 266t calibration... ?

[pericyclic]

It looks like the 245t and 258t are both back in stock at Control.

Has anyone had an issues with scratchy pots on the 258t? I've never had the issue before, but what I am hearing is like if you were scratching a record across the needle. This happens when I turn either of the oscillators frequency knobs. It does not happen when I move through the frequencies using (continuous) CV control. It happens on all wave shapes. I have several other oscillators, all of them older than the 258t, yet no issues with those.

[BLogic12]

It looks like the 245t and 258t are both back in stock at Control.

Has anyone had an issues with scratchy pots on the 258t? I've never had the issue before, but what I am hearing is like if you were scratching a record across the needle. This happens when I turn either of the oscillators frequency knobs. It does not happen when I move through the frequencies using (continuous) CV control. It happens on all wave shapes. I have several other oscillators, all of them older than the 258t, yet no issues with those.

It should not do that. You should contact tip top, i wouldn’t be surprised if they would repair it for free.

[liquid_drifter]

It looks like the 245t and 258t are both back in stock at Control.

Has anyone had an issues with scratchy pots on the 258t? I've never had the issue before, but what I am hearing is like if you were scratching a record across the needle. This happens when I turn either of the oscillators frequency knobs. It does not happen when I move through the frequencies using (continuous) CV control. It happens on all wave shapes. I have several other oscillators, all of them older than the 258t, yet no issues with those.

I've recently noticed scratchy behavior as well, especially if the coarse tuning knobs haven't been wiggled in a few days. I've been meaning to contact Tiptop about this, thanks for the reminder.

[redmotion]

Elevator Sound's latest newsletter had something pretty interesting to say about the 292t:-

"You may have seen the sad news about the Tiptop x Buchla 292t LPG stock. Due to a regulated component within the EU/UK we won't be able to get any of the vactrol modules here. However they are working on a compliant version using similar hardware to the beloved and incredible sounding Rabid Elephant Natural Gate. More info on this to come!"

Having read the entire "favorite LPG" thread and seeing how many people cited the Natural Gate, that's a pretty positive bit of news for us EU/UK peeps.

[BLogic12]

Elevator Sound's latest newsletter had something pretty interesting to say about the 292t:-

"You may have seen the sad news about the Tiptop x Buchla 292t LPG stock. Due to a regulated component within the EU/UK we won't be able to get any of the vactrol modules here. However they are working on a compliant version using similar hardware to the beloved and incredible sounding Rabid Elephant Natural Gate. More info on this to come!"

Having read the entire "favorite LPG" thread and seeing how many people cited the Natural Gate, that's a pretty positive bit of news for us EU/UK peeps.

That’s super interesting! It might even be preferable over the vactrol version for many people!
Hopefully the non vactrol one will be available in the us too as another option. It will be interesting to see how the two versions compare side by side.

[d42kn355]

really interesting.
Hah, US people gonna be going after the EU version...

[BLogic12]

really interesting.
Hah, US people gonna be going after the EU version...

If they let you dial in the decay response like you can on natural gate (maybe it would be a trimmer on the back on this module in this case) I would totally go for the non vactrol version if I was going to get one and had the choice.

[Spanningtree]

really interesting.
Hah, US people gonna be going after the EU version...

Right, one of each...