Beast’s Chalkboard alternative?

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Beast’s Chalkboard alternative?

Post by kriskeyman » Tue May 19, 2020 10:22 pm

Any alternative modules like Beasts Chalkbord? Needs to have 2-3 inputs, thru, along with +/- per input. CV control a plus.

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Re: Beast’s Chalkboard alternative?

Post by lisa » Tue May 19, 2020 11:25 pm

So, exactly as the BC but something else? I’m quite sure (and I’ve checked) that there’s nothing like that available. There are some quite digital, complex, multi purpose modules that might be able to do the same thing but that seems like overkill.

Why not just get the BC?
I made this techno remix of an ambient/downtempo track. 🧉


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Post by sierraoskar » Wed May 20, 2020 1:11 am

If I understand what you’re saying, this would work?: https://www.noiseengineering.us/shop/quant-gemi

Doesn’t have CV transposition but can be paired with: https://www.noiseengineering.us/shop/quantus-pax

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Re: Beast’s Chalkboard alternative?

Post by lisa » Wed May 20, 2020 1:22 am

sierraoskar wrote:
Wed May 20, 2020 1:11 am
If I understand what you’re saying, this would work?: https://www.noiseengineering.us/shop/quant-gemi

Doesn’t have CV transposition but can be paired with: https://www.noiseengineering.us/shop/quantus-pax
Lacks thru. Could be paired with a mult but the combo will take up as much space and cost more.
I made this techno remix of an ambient/downtempo track. 🧉


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Post by sierraoskar » Wed May 20, 2020 1:54 am

lisa wrote:
Wed May 20, 2020 1:22 am
sierraoskar wrote:
Wed May 20, 2020 1:11 am
If I understand what you’re saying, this would work?: https://www.noiseengineering.us/shop/quant-gemi

Doesn’t have CV transposition but can be paired with: https://www.noiseengineering.us/shop/quantus-pax
Lacks thru. Could be paired with a mult but the combo will take up as much space and cost more.
Ah yes - first thing the morning my eyes clearly hadn’t opened enough to see those 4 little characters :doh:

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Re: Beast’s Chalkboard alternative?

Post by darylc » Wed May 20, 2020 5:27 pm

From looking myself before there really isn't anything else around that does specifically what the Beast's Chalkboard does.
Apart from the mind-boggling ergonomics of the module it's perfect. All patched up it can be an unusable mess...

Also CV control over this kind of function is essentially just a sequencer into a 2-3 input adder unit...

Other options not mentioned...
doepfer a-185-2 (single adder, with mult out, +/- voltages)
vpme.de t43 (single adder, no mult out, +/- voltages)

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Re: Beast’s Chalkboard alternative?

Post by jox2000 » Wed May 20, 2020 6:59 pm

What about Klavis caltrans?

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Re: Beast’s Chalkboard alternative?

Post by lisa » Wed May 20, 2020 7:05 pm

jox2000 wrote:
Wed May 20, 2020 6:59 pm
What about Klavis caltrans?
No thru.
I made this techno remix of an ambient/downtempo track. 🧉


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Re: Beast’s Chalkboard alternative?

Post by noise-e » Wed May 20, 2020 7:15 pm

lisa wrote:
Wed May 20, 2020 1:22 am
sierraoskar wrote:
Wed May 20, 2020 1:11 am
If I understand what you’re saying, this would work?: https://www.noiseengineering.us/shop/quant-gemi

Doesn’t have CV transposition but can be paired with: https://www.noiseengineering.us/shop/quantus-pax
Lacks thru. Could be paired with a mult but the combo will take up as much space and cost more.
Just to jump in here: QG's inputs are normaled and act as a mult when unpatched. A through could be achieved by leaving a lower channel's input unpatched and untransposed. :party:
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Re: Beast’s Chalkboard alternative?

Post by Jumbuktu » Wed May 20, 2020 9:13 pm

lisa wrote:
Wed May 20, 2020 1:22 am
sierraoskar wrote:
Wed May 20, 2020 1:11 am
If I understand what you’re saying, this would work?: https://www.noiseengineering.us/shop/quant-gemi

Doesn’t have CV transposition but can be paired with: https://www.noiseengineering.us/shop/quantus-pax
Lacks thru. Could be paired with a mult but the combo will take up as much space and cost more.
Am I missing something? Doesn't a Stackable into the input provide a through?

I have a BC. What is it that is missing for you? CV control?

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Re: Beast’s Chalkboard alternative?

Post by void23 » Wed May 20, 2020 9:23 pm

Jumbuktu wrote:
Wed May 20, 2020 9:13 pm
lisa wrote:
Wed May 20, 2020 1:22 am
sierraoskar wrote:
Wed May 20, 2020 1:11 am
If I understand what you’re saying, this would work?: https://www.noiseengineering.us/shop/quant-gemi

Doesn’t have CV transposition but can be paired with: https://www.noiseengineering.us/shop/quantus-pax
Lacks thru. Could be paired with a mult but the combo will take up as much space and cost more.
Am I missing something? Doesn't a Stackable into the input provide a through?

I have a BC. What is it that is missing for you? CV control?
Normally, you should try to avoid splitting pitch signals. That's what buffered mults are for.

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Re: Beast’s Chalkboard alternative?

Post by Jumbuktu » Thu May 21, 2020 12:26 am

void23 wrote:
Wed May 20, 2020 9:23 pm
Jumbuktu wrote:
Wed May 20, 2020 9:13 pm
lisa wrote:
Wed May 20, 2020 1:22 am
sierraoskar wrote:
Wed May 20, 2020 1:11 am
If I understand what you’re saying, this would work?: https://www.noiseengineering.us/shop/quant-gemi

Doesn’t have CV transposition but can be paired with: https://www.noiseengineering.us/shop/quantus-pax
Lacks thru. Could be paired with a mult but the combo will take up as much space and cost more.
Am I missing something? Doesn't a Stackable into the input provide a through?

I have a BC. What is it that is missing for you? CV control?
Normally, you should try to avoid splitting pitch signals. That's what buffered mults are for.
I haven't needed one. I haven't noticed audible voltage drop off.

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Re: Beast’s Chalkboard alternative?

Post by MindMachine » Fri May 22, 2020 9:54 pm

darylc wrote:
Wed May 20, 2020 5:27 pm
From looking myself before there really isn't anything else around that does specifically what the Beast's Chalkboard does.
I tried two. They never worked right. I have an eye on the ACL Oktave. Similar but different.
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Re: Beast’s Chalkboard alternative?

Post by msegarra » Fri May 22, 2020 11:45 pm

I’ve thought this module was named breast’s chalkboard for years

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Re: Beast’s Chalkboard alternative?

Post by MindMachine » Fri May 22, 2020 11:56 pm

msegarra wrote:
Fri May 22, 2020 11:45 pm
I’ve thought this module was named breast’s chalkboard for years
Makes as much sense. I thought it was Beast's Cockboard for a second. It was bunk. Maybe they fixed the issues.
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Re: Beast’s Chalkboard alternative?

Post by lisa » Sun May 31, 2020 12:54 pm

Jumbuktu wrote:
Thu May 21, 2020 12:26 am
void23 wrote:
Wed May 20, 2020 9:23 pm

Normally, you should try to avoid splitting pitch signals. That's what buffered mults are for.
I haven't needed one. I haven't noticed audible voltage drop off.
There is a drop, no doubt. But if you're doing patches where the exact pitch isn't important it won't matter, I guess. I've solved the problem by sending the split signals to quantizers but that might not be the most efficient solution. :goo:
I made this techno remix of an ambient/downtempo track. 🧉


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Re: Beast’s Chalkboard alternative?

Post by BTG » Sun May 31, 2020 2:35 pm

there was a thread on this at some point, but at least the two units I had had noticeable droop on the 1V/oct output, which is a shame since in theory it's a really useful module.

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Re: Beast’s Chalkboard alternative?

Post by peachesandbacon » Sun May 31, 2020 5:04 pm

I recently watched Ben DivKid’s modular rig rundown with Jamie Lidell, and they were both praising the hell out of the VPME T43. Jamie had maybe 3 or 4 of them in his rack.

What’s so special about the T43 over other precision adders? :cloud:

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Re: Beast’s Chalkboard alternative?

Post by theTwiddler » Tue Jan 12, 2021 5:45 am

lisa wrote:
Sun May 31, 2020 12:54 pm
Jumbuktu wrote:
Thu May 21, 2020 12:26 am
void23 wrote:
Wed May 20, 2020 9:23 pm

Normally, you should try to avoid splitting pitch signals. That's what buffered mults are for.
I haven't needed one. I haven't noticed audible voltage drop off.
There is a drop, no doubt. But if you're doing patches where the exact pitch isn't important it won't matter, I guess. I've solved the problem by sending the split signals to quantizers but that might not be the most efficient solution. :goo:
dk i feel like if the exact pitch doesnt matter why should i even need a chalkboard. know what i mean? i could just use unbuffered mults and any offset

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