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Re: Schippmann to end Eurorack production

Post by Jee » Tue May 05, 2020 4:35 pm

B0bcat wrote:
Tue May 05, 2020 4:01 pm
oneiric.tomb wrote:
Tue May 05, 2020 3:55 pm
Did carsten let any of you preorder yet? I emailed him and he said he got the email, but didnt take my money lol
He told me it will be possible to order when the PayPal button shows up / works :hihi:
:cry: :lol:

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Re: Schippmann to end Eurorack production

Post by Jee » Tue May 05, 2020 4:41 pm

3pand wrote:
Tue May 05, 2020 3:45 pm

I'm confused about 0V putting the envelope into the release phase. That would only apply to after the attack and decay phase are over obviously, yes?
Not necessarily? Could skip remaining unfinished attack or decay stages to go directly to release ?

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Re: Schippmann to end Eurorack production

Post by 3pand » Tue May 05, 2020 7:04 pm

Jee wrote:
Wed Apr 29, 2020 4:49 pm

One other thing I’m wondering about is the segments time. In the short wording on top of the page it says 10 microseconds whereas the layout seems to show 0.1ms which is 100 microseconds if I’m correct?
Not that it really matters musically speaking even 1ms is already very fast but 100 microseconds would bring the full cycle in trig mode to 300 in total which is...somewhere between 3.5kHz and 4kHz frequency ? Is this correct? It’s already insanely fast and opens up really cool audio range droning applications and weird wave shaping! 10 microseconds seems totally outer space as it would make it above human audio range in the upper frequencies??
I'm posting a lot today haha, really feeling stuck at home! About the super short time scales, correct me if I'm wrong about this:

I'm assuming that the time scale Carsten wrote in the description (10 microseconds to 1500 seconds) is correct and is accessible via CV. So first of all, a standard trigger is what, 2ms at the shortest right? Doesn't that mean that if you were to set the envelope to a time shorter than 2ms, then a standard trigger would have a "sustain" segment (crazy haha). But then the cool thing about that is that you can use the trigger length as a sort of constant but then inside of that, the waveform that the trigger length is triggering (the envelope shape) can be constantly changing in terms of how much of the 2 ms is taken up by attack vs decay phase, the level of the sustain, etc. So it could be some kind of crazy waveshaping oscillator.

Or to take it one step further, you can input any audio rate wave form (10 microseconds is 100,000 Hz I think lol), let's say a square wave, and then again you can use the envelope to create an oscillator shape. If you then patch the same square wave into the CV-VCA jack, then the envelope waveform will also be fluctuating between positive and negative values.

On a related note, I wonder if Carsten came up with 50 microseconds as the lowest value on the Gate knob because that corresponds to 20,000 Hertz.

(disclaimer: I could be mistaken about all of this, it's really hot today)

I agree with Jee, take my money! :party:

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Re: Schippmann to end Eurorack production

Post by Jee » Thu May 07, 2020 12:41 am

Well interesting thoughts ! Makes sense to have shorter times with negative cv control of course!
This negative vca / sustain will indeed bipolar audio signals!
I wonder if these crazy high frequencies could be of some use to bother my cats :)

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Re: Schippmann to end Eurorack production

Post by monads » Fri May 08, 2020 6:41 pm

I'm in for both! Could use the DLFO before DTG but oh well. Waiting for the 'live' early bird notification to pull the trigger!

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Re: Schippmann to end Eurorack production

Post by oneiric.tomb » Sun May 24, 2020 12:21 am

Anyone got any clue about when preorder opens?
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Re: Schippmann to end Eurorack production

Post by Jee » Mon May 25, 2020 1:11 am

Nope still no news on my side...

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Re: Schippmann to end Eurorack production

Post by Jee » Mon Jun 01, 2020 5:12 am

Omega-Phi sold out.
Early Bird price for new modules removed.
As would say Homer Simpson: Toh ! :waah:

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Re: Schippmann to end Eurorack production

Post by damase » Mon Jun 01, 2020 7:20 am

Jee wrote:
Mon Jun 01, 2020 5:12 am
Omega-Phi sold out.
Early Bird price for new modules removed.
As would say Homer Simpson: Toh ! :waah:
i saw those last 2 sitting there and was tempted to empty savings for them! actively had to decide several times that my double omega phi system is enough for me. cheers for whoever landed the last ones.

sucks about the early bird prices being ditched, but i can see why he doesnt want to raise the cost for non early bird. still in for it and glad to see some updates

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Re: Schippmann to end Eurorack production

Post by Jee » Mon Jun 01, 2020 12:08 pm

Yeah, still in too definitely.
These modules have opened a world of sonic exploration I am amazed every time I use them. I'm pretty sure the DTG and LFO will add to that, I cannot miss them. Now I just hope Carsten will not be fancy again with prices and come back in 2 weeks with an increased price... :roll:

Sincerely my choice of getting 4 Ophi is really arguable, it's massive overkill and looks totally not reasonable cost-wise. The ZPO is a serious competitor and despite they don't sound the same, one could achieve similar results with multiple ZPO that cost half the price of the ophi.
I'd like to go to 4 voices / 2 opérators FM synth so I'm considering adding 4 ZPO to complete them... but I'm starting softer and I'm thinking of a quad regular compact VCO first to act as modulators only for the 4 ophi, and if I have enough space (i.e. if I build a new case) I will consider the 4 ZPO on top and it will push the insanity to 4 voice / 3 operators FM synth (2 per voice being thru zero keeping pitch intact). :nutter:

And it appeas I actually make use of the 4 ophi pretty much all the time...
No later than today with a new track that came from a fairly complex patch that ended up being self-sufficient considered the tremendous amount of modulations involved... (patching and fine-tuning the modulations took me 2 days for 2mn of audio but it was worth it lol).
1 ophi going through 3 VCF in serie, one of these VCF audio-modulated by a second ophi tuned to the first but played polyphonic at various harmonic or non-harmonic intervals and 2 other ophi layered on top going through a 4th separate filter. All this played live with Touché on 4 axis macro control as usual, orgasmic!
https://soundcloud.com/user-793769115/c ... WImg9WYTq8

It's a private link that I'll remove shortly, it will be part of my next Abstract EP.

Just to make you regret your choice :hihi: :foul:
:surprise:

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Re: Schippmann to end Eurorack production

Post by 3pand » Mon Jun 01, 2020 1:58 pm

Sounds amazing!!!! thanks for sharing.

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Re: Schippmann to end Eurorack production

Post by damase » Tue Jun 02, 2020 7:09 am

Jee wrote:
Mon Jun 01, 2020 12:08 pm

It's a private link that I'll remove shortly, it will be part of my next Abstract EP.

Just to make you regret your choice :hihi: :foul:
:surprise:
hah, dont worry im mighty jealous of your quad, but im very grateful for my duo system as is

loved the track. having the separate voices modulate cutoff instead of just being mixed led to a really great post-filter crunch. dst2 used pre-modulation?

as for fm modulators, ive tried several out, i would highly suggest buying just 1 and trying it out for a long while. what i noticed, is that the omega phi is so precise and delicate of a sound that it will mold to its modulator very strong, so i found the character of the modulator was always shining through and ‘taking over the sound‘. also slight variations in tracking seem to make a huge deal for FM of melodic lines, i can tell you enjoy playin a high variation of notes like i often do(the ophi tracks so perfectly) and it definitely matters. if you can hold out, it looks like the upcoming DLFO might be a better fm modulator with its 1v/oct and quadrature outputs.

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Re: Schippmann to end Eurorack production

Post by Jee » Tue Jun 02, 2020 5:00 pm

Yes I do use a range of 5 octaves here if I remember well.
There is actually 3 DST2 involved in between the filters (post filters, 1 pre VCF modulation, 2 post) but none hitting the second modulating voice to the VCF to keep modulation clean and let the harmonics play their game. The distortion arising from momentary dissonances the time I hit the second note gave "dirty note transitions" that I really loved.
You are a very fine observer (listener?) man !!
I wouldn't have bet on someone deciphering that.

I think you also have a ver fair point about the modulators, I don't have so many at my disposal (actually only omega phi at the moment) but I noticed the differences when I used the 0-coast vs Ophi. Indeed, DLFO will be perfect candidate... I wouldn't be against another flavor though, to vary a bit and keep DLFO for weird modulation while FMing...
Let's see. :)

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Re: Schippmann to end Eurorack production

Post by Wubz » Tue Jun 02, 2020 9:37 pm

Jee wrote:
Mon Jun 01, 2020 12:08 pm
Yeah, still in too definitely.
These modules have opened a world of sonic exploration I am amazed every time I use them. I'm pretty sure the DTG and LFO will add to that, I cannot miss them. Now I just hope Carsten will not be fancy again with prices and come back in 2 weeks with an increased price... :roll:

Sincerely my choice of getting 4 Ophi is really arguable, it's massive overkill and looks totally not reasonable cost-wise. The ZPO is a serious competitor and despite they don't sound the same, one could achieve similar results with multiple ZPO that cost half the price of the ophi.
I'd like to go to 4 voices / 2 opérators FM synth so I'm considering adding 4 ZPO to complete them... but I'm starting softer and I'm thinking of a quad regular compact VCO first to act as modulators only for the 4 ophi, and if I have enough space (i.e. if I build a new case) I will consider the 4 ZPO on top and it will push the insanity to 4 voice / 3 operators FM synth (2 per voice being thru zero keeping pitch intact). :nutter:

And it appeas I actually make use of the 4 ophi pretty much all the time...
No later than today with a new track that came from a fairly complex patch that ended up being self-sufficient considered the tremendous amount of modulations involved... (patching and fine-tuning the modulations took me 2 days for 2mn of audio but it was worth it lol).
1 ophi going through 3 VCF in serie, one of these VCF audio-modulated by a second ophi tuned to the first but played polyphonic at various harmonic or non-harmonic intervals and 2 other ophi layered on top going through a 4th separate filter. All this played live with Touché on 4 axis macro control as usual, orgasmic!
https://soundcloud.com/user-793769115/c ... WImg9WYTq8

It's a private link that I'll remove shortly, it will be part of my next Abstract EP.

Just to make you regret your choice :hihi: :foul:
:surprise:
I had a ZPO. I bought an Omega Phi , sold the ZPO. The ZPO is nice, sounds awesome but the Omega Phi is in a different class IMO.

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Re: Schippmann to end Eurorack production

Post by oneiric.tomb » Fri Jun 19, 2020 9:02 pm

Price raised again on modules 😭
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Re: Schippmann to end Eurorack production

Post by Jee » Sat Jun 20, 2020 1:08 am

No still 750€ dtg and 799€ DLFO

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Re: Schippmann to end Eurorack production

Post by damase » Sat Jun 20, 2020 7:07 am

but... production started!

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Post by euxine » Sun Jun 21, 2020 4:24 am

damase wrote:
Sat Jun 20, 2020 7:07 am
but... production started!
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Re: Schippmann to end Eurorack production

Post by 22tape » Sun Jun 21, 2020 2:36 pm

Yeah it's pretty amusing to watch a thread about new releases when the title states the exact opposite :hihi:


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Re: Schippmann to end Eurorack production

Post by dubonaire » Sun Jun 21, 2020 9:46 pm

damase wrote:
Sat Jun 20, 2020 7:07 am
but... production started!

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Re: Schippmann to end Eurorack production

Post by 3pand » Fri Jun 26, 2020 1:28 am

looks like the complete manual is now available! (in German)

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Re: Schippmann to end Eurorack production

Post by Jee » Mon Jun 29, 2020 3:27 pm

Pre-orders open 1st July on the website!

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Re: Schippmann to end Eurorack production

Post by B0bcat » Mon Jun 29, 2020 4:01 pm

Jee wrote:
Mon Jun 29, 2020 3:27 pm
Pre-orders open 1st July on the website!
(For DTG)
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Re: Schippmann to end Eurorack production

Post by damase » Mon Jun 29, 2020 6:43 pm

thats excellent news but i was sort of hoping id have a chance to secure mine so i didnt have to risk some nightmare where i woke up and it was sold out already. Is what it is though, i guess ill be checking back every so often at the east german time zone and hope for the best

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Re: Schippmann to end Eurorack production

Post by 3pand » Mon Jun 29, 2020 7:44 pm

damase wrote:
Mon Jun 29, 2020 6:43 pm
thats excellent news but i was sort of hoping id have a chance to secure mine so i didnt have to risk some nightmare where i woke up and it was sold out already. Is what it is though, i guess ill be checking back every so often at the east german time zone and hope for the best
Hopefully all the scalpers that immediately re-list other small run modules for thousands of dollars will stay away from this one!!!

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