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fruitsnake wrote: Sun Dec 26, 2021 4:04 pm It also depends on what programs you're using and how much you're doing in said programs. I've gotten zero latency when multitracking in Reaper with 20+ tracks. I've also gotten zero latency running a fairly basic patch in VCV Rack - bunch of clock utilities and a few envelope generators and quantizers with cv i/o via ES-9. If you're going hard with plugins/ processing live sound I don't know how perfect it would be. But if you're just playing samples from your DAW in sync with hardware units you should be good.
Ok thanks. I'm not doing much in Ableton at all so should be able to get the timing locked, as you say. Cable I'm using is USB C going into a newish M1 air
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Dear os,
it would be awesome to use the knobs push-button function to send some voltage to a specific output on ES-9 or to one of the expanders.
For instance this could work as a reset to sequencers ...
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As long as we're throwing out requests... could the push button toggle between hosted/standalone modes? I keep the config tool up all the time just to flip back and forth as my needs vary.
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Incredible interface in such a small form factor.
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Hey! I'm having an issue where my main headphone output is summing to mono. It's happening on both ableton and itunes, so I doubt it's routing in ableton. I updated the unit to 1.2.3 and made sure I'm on the latest config tool, which I hit 'reset to defaults' and saved to flash.

Any ideas? I'm on a new M1 macbook pro (monterey 12.0.1)
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I'm stumped but I feel like this may have an easy solve...
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dip_registered wrote: Sun Jan 16, 2022 12:07 am Hey! I'm having an issue where my main headphone output is summing to mono. It's happening on both ableton and itunes, so I doubt it's routing in ableton. I updated the unit to 1.2.3 and made sure I'm on the latest config tool, which I hit 'reset to defaults' and saved to flash.

Any ideas? I'm on a new M1 macbook pro (monterey 12.0.1)

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I'm stumped but I feel like this may have an easy solve...
Shouldn’t channels 3 & 4 be Stereo Linked?
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sui_city wrote: Sun Jan 16, 2022 1:34 am
dip_registered wrote: Sun Jan 16, 2022 12:07 am Hey! I'm having an issue where my main headphone output is summing to mono. It's happening on both ableton and itunes, so I doubt it's routing in ableton. I updated the unit to 1.2.3 and made sure I'm on the latest config tool, which I hit 'reset to defaults' and saved to flash.

Any ideas? I'm on a new M1 macbook pro (monterey 12.0.1)

Screen Shot 2022-01-15 at 9.05.21 pm.png

I'm stumped but I feel like this may have an easy solve...
Shouldn’t channels 3 & 4 be Stereo Linked?
Exactly.
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Also you may need to look at the "raw mix" section and make sure Phones L is only receiving 3 and Phones R is only receiving 4 (or 1 and 2 if you're trying to mirror your main outs to the phones)
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dip_registered wrote: Sun Jan 16, 2022 12:07 am Hey! I'm having an issue where my main headphone output is summing to mono.
Is it summing to mono correctly, or is it a weird phasey sounding sum which drops in level if you pan something between the two sides?
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os wrote: Mon Jan 17, 2022 3:50 am
dip_registered wrote: Sun Jan 16, 2022 12:07 am Hey! I'm having an issue where my main headphone output is summing to mono.
Is it summing to mono correctly, or is it a weird phasey sounding sum which drops in level if you pan something between the two sides?
It's a weird sum which drops in level when panning to the two sides. Tried stereo linking 3&4, but didn't help with this specifically. Thanks!
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I've had the unit for a year or more, and it's only just happening now. I've had stereo fine before. Could it still be that?
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It seems less likely based on that information, but it's still possible. It's a very easy fix to try, either way.
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omega8870 wrote: Sat Nov 06, 2021 6:44 am I too also use the ES9's robust mixing features. I control the virtual mixer using a faderbank in my Eurorack system using midi CC. I was curious, it is my understanding that mixer channels for Main Out and Headphone require separate midi CCs. That is to say, Channel 1 for the Headphones has one dedicated midi CC and that same channel, Channel 1, for the Main Out requires a different, dedicated midi CC.

Is it possible to control Channel 1's fader for BOTH Headphone & Main Out using the same midi CC? Effectively it would mean that I could control both mixers using the same matching hardware controls. Right now I have to re-flash my faderbank with new midiCCs to control one mix or the other.
Which faderbank are you using? 16n??
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An idea for the push button: Toggle between Headphone output channels.

Like 1-2 to 3-4 for AB or 1-2 to 1-2+3-4 for main + cues.
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Hi everyone, 

I was looking thought the debate about USB cables, I live outside US so it's hard to find or to buy the identical items you guys offer... 

I'm having trouble with latency using a regular USB cable 3 meters long (10ft), it needs that distance because of the configuration of my desk.

I found a UBS for a VR (oculus link quest 2) that is pretty popular here, looks better than a regular one maybe is a good quality and transfer capability, is it possible to analyze if It's going to work?? It promises 5gbs of data transfer, it has reviews showing that it works alright with the VR. (It's similar to this one: encurtador.com.br/lptHQ)

Thanks
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The length of a USB cable has no bearing on the latency of an audio interface.
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os wrote: Wed Feb 16, 2022 12:47 pm The length of a USB cable has no bearing on the latency of an audio interface.
Nice to know this, my thought process was while I was reading all this post and found some that had trouble with latency and solve with new and better cable.

I'm out of town, when I get back I will try first update bios and everything that someone suggest in the other post and if didn't do the trick, I will try this VR cable.

Thanks.
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USB 3.0 with 5gb/s speed ought to do the trick. Only with the new USB 3.0 technology is it possible to get those speeds, so make sure your computer has a USB 3.0 compatible port. My computer for instance has 3 USB ports, but only one of them is 3.0 compatible.
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fruitsnake wrote: Wed Feb 16, 2022 6:49 pm USB 3.0 with 5gb/s speed ought to do the trick. Only with the new USB 3.0 technology is it possible to get those speeds, so make sure your computer has a USB 3.0 compatible port. My computer for instance has 3 USB ports, but only one of them is 3.0 compatible.
Thanks for the info, mine has 3.2 gen 2 so hopefully i'm alright.

I will post when i arrive to note to anyone if the bios and the VR cable do the trick.
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The ES-9 uses USB 2.0.
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Most likely you need to tune your computer audio settings to reduce latency. This is a huge topic onto itself, and something worth a search.
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Warmofada wrote: Wed Feb 16, 2022 12:35 pm I'm having trouble with latency using a regular USB cable 3 meters long (10ft), it needs that distance because of the configuration of my desk.
Hi,
IF it is a PC, some tweaks at
https://gearspace.com/board/showpost.ph ... tcount=270
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Pictus wrote: Fri Feb 18, 2022 7:38 am
Warmofada wrote: Wed Feb 16, 2022 12:35 pm I'm having trouble with latency using a regular USB cable 3 meters long (10ft), it needs that distance because of the configuration of my desk.
Hi,
IF it is a PC, some tweaks at
https://gearspace.com/board/showpost.ph ... tcount=270
More common fixes are found here: https://help.ableton.com/hc/en-us/artic ... ce-latency Even if you’re not using Live, these same principles are pretty common, at least in PC land.

Pictus is getting into the advanced league on his gearspace thread, and is hitting stuff that I place more in the audio PC performance category than in the audio interface latency (which is what I think you need here).
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Today I realized that I could utilize the midi breakout to make ES-9 into an 8 in + 8 out matrix mixer with no computer required, using midi CC's to control levels in the matrix. I've had the ES-9 for over a year but I hadn't thought to use it this way until today.
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