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Post by ggillon » Fri Dec 13, 2019 4:52 pm

Crucible is a resonator. Just feed it anything and have fun :)

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Post by Funky40 » Fri Dec 13, 2019 7:09 pm

......and don´t forget to feed Rings with Crucible.
works also ;)


goes now to learn how to feed a crucible, haha

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Post by Parnelli » Sat Dec 14, 2019 1:17 pm

Feed it anything indeed!

I had a chance to mess around with it before I left for work a couple hours this morning. I found that by introducing FM from either the STE.16 or Wogglebug to the input allowed me to extend the shimmer of the decay in a ringing or gong like fashion depending on what you feed it frequency wise.

For gong sounds I start the plate setting with the size at 3 o'clock and the pitch at 9 and cv the decay for sustain, by putting FM to the input I can get the shimmer or roll of the gong.

As was discussed on an earlier page the velocity has to be triggered smartly in order to keep up with events, but I also found that patching a Tetrapad fader into it gave me a nice volume control, and if you up the cv it gets louder at the output than if you do not use it, think of it as a VCA control with a little amplification if you will.

I also ran a couple stackables from the trigger inputs to the inputs of a couple EGs, and used the resulting envelopes on the various cv inputs for some real interesting effects.

All and all there's a lot of territory to explore on this module, and you can push it all the way into outer space if you try. :tu:

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Post by MindMachine » Sat Dec 14, 2019 8:37 pm

Zymos wrote:Wow, that sounds really cool ggillon!!
Ditto. Back to the top of my wish list. The first bit sounded like a Rhodes piano. Nice work.
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Post by pyrolator » Sun Dec 15, 2019 1:56 am

Zymos wrote:Wow, that sounds really cool ggillon!!
Same here. I was using it mostly for cymbals, but now I am getting back to it, finding proper input feeds... :hihi:

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Post by Bob Borries » Sun Dec 15, 2019 2:22 am

ggillon wrote:Here is the test (feeding some FM sounds in the crucible input).
That sounds like an incredibly ancient bell from the Temple of space and time.

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Post by bemushroomed » Mon Jan 27, 2020 1:59 pm

I've had this for a while, really great and natural sounding cymbal/HH sound! It's way ahead of for example my Nord Drum 2 when it comes to these types of sounds.

I do think its kind of a missed opportunity to not have model 2 to be something more dissimilar to the first, while it has a slightly more "sizzle" to it on some settings i don't think its different enough, it would even be hard to hear the difference in a mix..
Mode 3 is fun and very, very different, perhaps not as useful as the first model but i really like it.

Would have liked if the external input went through the vca/envelope as well, would have saved people from the additional patching (for e.g a pure noise source). The SSF Percusion Synth did it like that, so i used the external in a lot, it was also possible to turn off the internal sound, here it's stacked, not always optimal.

I wish someone would do a module like this but the real focus is external sound. Way more fun to be had here than with for example a filter, because you have things like pitch, which a filter obviously does not give you. I'd buy a module like that in a heartbeat, something like a mix of this and SSF Perc Synth, but focus is external sound sources, 2 inputs at least, one where the sound can be delayed (important for snares, claps). I'm sure someone will make such a module one day, if its not something that already exists?

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Post by transferpoint » Mon Jan 27, 2020 2:08 pm

This is the next module on my list. I didn't realize you could use it as a resonator. Very exciting.

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Post by MindMachine » Fri Aug 07, 2020 9:32 pm

Finally received a Crucible. They were out of stock everywhere (seemingly) for quite a while. I just plugged it in and used a ProMod Cloq into a Mutable Branches and fed the Branches outs to the Bell Edge and Mid inputs on the Crucible. Instant jam.

Just 12 o'clocked a few parameters out of the box, thought... 'use Branches' and instant nice little ditty. Going to add Grids with Chimera, Tiptop HATS 909, various Snares (EMW/2HP/Tiptop) and mix in homebrew patches from EMW Noisestation and VCA's to create an evolving steel symphony. Might use my Roland TR-08 as a voice and main clock with 4MS QCD instead of Cloq.

Love the Industrial possibilities with a nice string machine and treated vocals.

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Post by maltemark » Thu Sep 10, 2020 5:03 am

My first test a few months ago. Gels well with spring reverb.

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Post by Funky40 » Sat Sep 12, 2020 12:48 am

.......works also well with the DLD, using both sides of the DLD

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Post by Steljan » Mon Oct 12, 2020 11:02 am

Anyone experiencing low volume from Crucible?
From the day i got it, the volume is not high enough i can barely hear it in the mix.
Is not as bad but if i play it for example along Feacture i crank the volume on Crucible all the way up to hear it and it stiil kind of struggles.

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Post by Parnelli » Mon Oct 12, 2020 2:46 pm

Steljan wrote:
Mon Oct 12, 2020 11:02 am
Anyone experiencing low volume from Crucible?
From the day i got it, the volume is not high enough i can barely hear it in the mix.
Is not as bad but if i play it for example along Feacture i crank the volume on Crucible all the way up to hear it and it stiil kind of struggles.
It's output is a little lower than some of my other modules, but I think that is to allow room for use of the Velocity input. If I want to jack up the output I just run +V from the Quadratt into the velocity input (I'm at work, but I'm pretty sure that's how I do it) and it will increase the volume output, otherwise I run it through a VCA to make up for it.

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Post by Steljan » Tue Oct 13, 2020 3:05 pm

Parnelli wrote:
Mon Oct 12, 2020 2:46 pm
Steljan wrote:
Mon Oct 12, 2020 11:02 am
Anyone experiencing low volume from Crucible?
From the day i got it, the volume is not high enough i can barely hear it in the mix.
Is not as bad but if i play it for example along Feacture i crank the volume on Crucible all the way up to hear it and it stiil kind of struggles.
It's output is a little lower than some of my other modules, but I think that is to allow room for use of the Velocity input. If I want to jack up the output I just run +V from the Quadratt into the velocity input (I'm at work, but I'm pretty sure that's how I do it) and it will increase the volume output, otherwise I run it through a VCA to make up for it.
Thanks buddy, i will try to see if velocity makes it better.
I run it through VCA too the Intellijel Quadratt, thing is when i do crush/ride sounds its quite ok not as loud as i want it to be but its ok but if i want to experiment a bit its just too low.

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Post by Parnelli » Fri Oct 16, 2020 4:11 pm

Glad to be of service!

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Post by Midiot » Sat Apr 03, 2021 1:02 pm

I don't know if this has been mentioned.... but Cruciible's pc board is just a tad too large to fit in my Tiptop portable case....... and the hole placement is really tight>> when screwing it into anything standard (like a 4MS Pod case).
Maybe I got a bad run ?
Anyways it's working in a different case.... Crucible is my fav cymbal module. A+++
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Post by Midiot » Sat Apr 03, 2021 1:14 pm

Just as WMD did a life-like expression of real cymbals (Crucible)...... someone needs to do a life-like expression of a snare drum.
I can replicate a good snare in eurorack (not sampled).
It is two sine waves and a noise source, pinged by an envelope or two..... with a little room reverb.
By the time I'm done crafting the snare.... I've used many cables and modules......there is the problem.
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Post by yeatsvisitslincoln » Sat Apr 03, 2021 2:13 pm

I’d really like to see a high hat module similar to crucible. But that’s inherently double to computing power. Just like with snares, I stick to samples mostly for high hats. Would love to see a corresponding module though. A whole WMD kit would be epic!

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Post by spilthyfred » Sat Apr 03, 2021 10:58 pm

yeatsvisitslincoln wrote:
Sat Apr 03, 2021 2:13 pm
I’d really like to see a high hat module similar to crucible. But that’s inherently double to computing power. Just like with snares, I stick to samples mostly for high hats. Would love to see a corresponding module though. A whole WMD kit would be epic!
I would prefer to see a WMD hi-hat module that actually took inspiration from their Crater Kick, as in a meld of analog and digital. The Crucible was terribly digital sounding. I'm thinking like the Hexinverter Mutant Hats (external in is huge), but with a better filter (with cv control!), and some crazy digital noise and eq tricks tucked inside.

.... if they build it, we will come.

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Post by MindMachine » Sun Apr 04, 2021 12:21 am

spilthyfred wrote:
Sat Apr 03, 2021 10:58 pm
yeatsvisitslincoln wrote:
Sat Apr 03, 2021 2:13 pm
I’d really like to see a high hat module similar to crucible. But that’s inherently double to computing power. Just like with snares, I stick to samples mostly for high hats. Would love to see a corresponding module though. A whole WMD kit would be epic!
I would prefer to see a WMD hi-hat module that actually took inspiration from their Crater Kick, as in a meld of analog and digital. The Crucible was terribly digital sounding. I'm thinking like the Hexinverter Mutant Hats (external in is huge), but with a better filter (with cv control!), and some crazy digital noise and eq tricks tucked inside.

.... if they build it, we will come.
I've already come. They all sound digital-ish. I have Chimera and Crucible and think they are perfect. Make my own hats/drums other wise.

Roll your own if you want.
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Post by ferran » Sun Apr 04, 2021 6:14 am

I've got Chimera. Very happy. These old GAS again..., now for Crucible. :cry:

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Post by DJ Tap Water » Sat May 01, 2021 11:52 am

Can anyone tell me what the CV input range is on this? It's not in the manual for some reason

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Post by lisa » Sat May 01, 2021 12:55 pm

DJ Tap Water wrote:
Sat May 01, 2021 11:52 am
Can anyone tell me what the CV input range is on this? It's not in the manual for some reason
From the manual: "Full sweep is 5V"
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Post by DJ Tap Water » Sun May 02, 2021 5:14 am

lisa wrote:
Sat May 01, 2021 12:55 pm
DJ Tap Water wrote:
Sat May 01, 2021 11:52 am
Can anyone tell me what the CV input range is on this? It's not in the manual for some reason
From the manual: "Full sweep is 5V"
;)
Thank you! Maybe I was looking at the wrong version..

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Post by Kosmikos » Sun May 02, 2021 9:00 am

I don’t get much change (if at all) from position 1 and 2 of the switch, even with a wide variety of size/tone/excite/deform. Is that the way it’s supposed to be?
Edit: the manual states position 2 is with amplitude dependant “ghost transients”, which I have no idea what it means, but could it be that it only actions when velocity is patched in?

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