Announcing ALM017 - Pamela's NEW Workout

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Re: Announcing ALM017 - Pamela's NEW Workout

Post by ModusOp » Wed Jul 22, 2020 6:10 pm

apfEID wrote:
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Can someone please tell me if the smooth random is AC or DC? I want to invert it outside of Pam’s but not sure if I need to offset it too.

AC vs DC is just a measure of how slowly a signal is changing. If it's able to stay above or below 0v for the duration required for an envelope or lfo, it's DC. AC means it's always moving.

Inputs/outputs that aren't DC coupled will drop any offset when the signal drops below a certain frequency. I don't remember the exact cut off but if you're using a signal that's slow enough for an LFO or a sequence (where it is effectively stationary during each step), those won't pass through, unless mixed into a moving AC signal as well, where it will manifest as "DC Offset" which you can see in a waveform, if for example you sum a DC 1v with a 40hz tone -2 to 2v tone, you'll see the 40hz tone is oscillating around 1v instead of 0 even if you recorded it with something that's only AC coupled. But if you stop the 40hz tone, the 1v will also disappear because it's DC and is filtered out. AC is basically high pass filtered somewhere under 20hz so you don't hear anything below the lowest bass you can hear as a tone.

so, Pam's is definitely outputting DC when slow envelopes are involved. But it's all unipolar from 0 up, so if you want bipolar movement you need to offset it and then probably scale as well.
Interesting! So I don’t necessarily want bipolar movement, I don’t think.

I’m just looking to take two slow fluctuating random signals from Pam’s to make the ol’ Krell patch happen (going to the attack of one cycling envelope and the decay of another, then those to a third cycling envelope’s attack and decay), but then take those same two fluctuating random signals and invert them to create a second pair of cycling envelopes that would go to yet another cycling envelope that will in theory speed up when the other slows down... if that makes sense.
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Re: Announcing ALM017 - Pamela's NEW Workout

Post by OHEXOH » Fri Jul 24, 2020 6:56 pm

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I think its always worked like this... what firmware were you on previously and was behaviour different ?
I don't think I've ever used RUN to reset before - I've always used PAM & RUN Y with an external clock. I'm now using PAM as the clock source so out of all the options, using RUN as a RESET seems to be quite useful.

I'll try again with other channels to see if Skip seems to work as expected (ie: % random) or if it starts to predictively repeat itself when a RESET trig is received.
I tried this again today. I started by resetting the Bank so all channels are synced and running x1. On Track 1 I set to Skip to 90% and then on Track 2 I send a trig to the Run input which is set to reset. Track 2 is running at x8 so there's 'air time' before the reset trig.

So a simple set up - and yeah, it does the same thing, Track 1 seems to always send a trigger at the same beat shortly after the reset is received. It's like Loop is switched on, but it's not.

Hopefully that helps clarify it. :tu:
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Re: Announcing ALM017 - Pamela's NEW Workout

Post by 54731 » Mon Jul 27, 2020 4:30 pm

Hey guys, I have a question: are there any black replacement faceplates for Pamela´s New Workout on sale anywhere, or do you know someone who makes them? There used to be BKM Panels, but they are not operating anymore and I missed the train. Pamela is the only silver faceplate module in my performance case and I´d love to have it all black. :help: I know there was a limited edition sale for a black-faceplate unit whit red LEDs, but I won´t be buying a new module just for the looks.

Nevertheless, Pamela´s New Workout always has a place in my rack. :love:
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Re: Announcing ALM017 - Pamela's NEW Workout

Post by ALM_Zach » Fri Jul 31, 2020 1:19 pm

Multiple people caught a mistake in our Pamela's PC Firmware Update video. When recording we forgot to change 'dfu-util' to match the 'dfu-util-static' binary file that is downloaded earlier in the video. Please make sure the file and name match! We have updated the video to point out the mistake and re-uploaded it to Youtube.

Our apologies for any confusion this may have caused. :doh:


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Post by Kattefjaes » Fri Jul 31, 2020 1:21 pm

Phew, I feared it was another update, requiring me to remember where I put my mini-USB cable. Yep, caught and corrected that, but it's nice that you've updated the video for people who find the slightly fiddly process intimidating ;)

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Re: Announcing ALM017 - Pamela's NEW Workout

Post by Migrigsynth » Wed Aug 05, 2020 4:17 pm

Is anybody having a problem with Pamela’s not being able to sense external clock input? I just upgraded to 206 and the clock input will not function.

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Post by BaloErets » Wed Aug 05, 2020 4:31 pm

Migrigsynth wrote:
Wed Aug 05, 2020 4:17 pm
Is anybody having a problem with Pamela’s not being able to sense external clock input? I just upgraded to 206 and the clock input will not function.
Not on my side. Using the current firmware and had the clock input synced up just yesterday without any issues. What are you using as a clock to send to Pams?

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Post by tdallas » Thu Aug 06, 2020 2:11 am

Migrigsynth wrote:
Wed Aug 05, 2020 4:17 pm
Is anybody having a problem with Pamela’s not being able to sense external clock input? I just upgraded to 206 and the clock input will not function.
Mine is working fine with external clock inputs on 206. Have you tried to do a global reset after the upgrade? Maybe it is waiting for an additional run signal?

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Post by Thedoge » Thu Aug 06, 2020 5:48 pm

Migrigsynth wrote:
Wed Aug 05, 2020 4:17 pm
Is anybody having a problem with Pamela’s not being able to sense external clock input? I just upgraded to 206 and the clock input will not function.
I'm experiencing the same, I'm sending clock signal from a westlicht performer as well as from a batumi and it says unstable all the time :bang:

edit: sorry, forgot to set PPQN to 04, it's working fine here too :yay:

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anyone having a problem with their website - comes up blank in Chrome and Safari on my Mac?

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Post by megarat » Thu Aug 06, 2020 9:32 pm

honeysmack wrote:
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anyone having a problem with their website - comes up blank in Chrome and Safari on my Mac?
ALM’s web site comes up fine for me with Safari on my iPad.

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Re: Announcing ALM017 - Pamela's NEW Workout

Post by Migrigsynth » Sun Aug 09, 2020 7:38 am

BaloErets wrote:
Wed Aug 05, 2020 4:31 pm
Migrigsynth wrote:
Wed Aug 05, 2020 4:17 pm
Is anybody having a problem with Pamela’s not being able to sense external clock input? I just upgraded to 206 and the clock input will not function.
Not on my side. Using the current firmware and had the clock input synced up just yesterday without any issues. What are you using as a clock to send to Pams?
I’m using Stages as a clock input. I’m coming from logic/REM interface into Stages and then out of stages in to Pamela‘s. When I initially started trying to clock Pamela‘s externally i used logic directly into Pamela’s and I would never get a consistent tempo. It would always be very erratic so I eventually went to the intermediate step of going into Stages.

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Re: Announcing ALM017 - Pamela's NEW Workout

Post by Migrigsynth » Sun Aug 09, 2020 7:41 am

tdallas wrote:
Thu Aug 06, 2020 2:11 am
Migrigsynth wrote:
Wed Aug 05, 2020 4:17 pm
Is anybody having a problem with Pamela’s not being able to sense external clock input? I just upgraded to 206 and the clock input will not function.
Mine is working fine with external clock inputs on 206. Have you tried to do a global reset after the upgrade? Maybe it is waiting for an additional run signal?
I have not tried that yet but I will.

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Post by Migrigsynth » Sun Aug 09, 2020 8:06 am

Oops! Rookie move. I had the “run” screen set to “yes” ! 😁 thanks for the suggestions guys I appreciate it.👍

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Post by kobe » Mon Aug 10, 2020 11:39 am

ALM_Zach wrote:
Fri Jul 31, 2020 1:19 pm
Multiple people caught a mistake in our Pamela's PC Firmware Update video. When recording we forgot to change 'dfu-util' to match the 'dfu-util-static' binary file that is downloaded earlier in the video. Please make sure the file and name match! We have updated the video to point out the mistake and re-uploaded it to Youtube.

Our apologies for any confusion this may have caused. :doh:

Just updated to 206 and all stored programs are gone. Is that normal???

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Post by EPTC » Tue Aug 11, 2020 1:38 pm

Wanted to comment that a few years into PNW, I'm still finding great new uses! I have a few modules that have gate inputs to trigger events but would love them to be perpetually on or off instead. Was looking at getting the ADDAC manual latch gates for this but also am thinking to find solutions in what I have instead of buying more gear. If it could be something I can patch, all the better. If a new module has to be made, I'd prefer it be passive and not go through power cable arrangement.

Then it hit me: A single channel of Pam's on a mult with A/B switches does this. Just set one channel to be perpetually "ON" (so no pulses) connect that to a mult to a row of A/B switches and presto, that whole row of A/B switches, easy to make, and it become ON or OFF gate latches. I have them on an ABC switch three position switch, so A sends and ON to one piece of gear, the center position is off, and C sends an ON to another piece.

Not sure how many people use the "ON" option of an output but this is a great application. Not sure what use "OFF" does other that to clean up something visually but I'm thrilled about a perpetual ON.

Pam's managed to make an entire new module out of a bunch of spare ABC switches I had lying around. I really like passive switching and this delights me. Great work, ALM!

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Post by bemushroomed » Fri Aug 21, 2020 6:04 am

The Logic can get really messy and complicated since it borrows from other channels.. Really wish it would work individually for each channel, because often you "break" some other channel (that you had a cool groove on for example) when messing with it. Changing things like Modifier on a channel which has logic can mess things up completely since Modifier also impacts on that channel's Logic behavior (which then change how the other channels triggers).

Not that useful in its current state tbh. You can always connect external Logic modules but it would be a wonderful addition to have on a module like this :)

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Fun sometimes though, with lots of tweaking to get it right without messing something up


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Post by Octognoma » Fri Aug 21, 2020 9:05 am

bemushroomed wrote:
Fri Aug 21, 2020 6:04 am
The Logic can get really messy and complicated since it borrows from other channels.. Really wish it would work individually for each channel, because often you "break" some other channel (that you had a cool groove on for example) when messing with it. Changing things like Modifier on a channel which has logic can mess things up completely since Modifier also impacts on that channel's Logic behavior (which then change how the other channels triggers).

Not that useful in its current state tbh. You can always connect external Logic modules but it would be a wonderful addition to have on a module like this :)

edit:
Fun sometimes though, with lots of tweaking to get it right without messing something up


this is great!

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Post by bemushroomed » Fri Aug 21, 2020 9:15 am

Here's the one i did yesterday, also just Pam doing everything, from triggering to changing samples on the Bitbox. It's a lot messier though.


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Post by DukeOfPrunes » Fri Aug 21, 2020 6:25 pm

bemushroomed wrote:
Fri Aug 21, 2020 6:04 am
The Logic can get really messy and complicated since it borrows from other channels.. Really wish it would work individually for each channel, because often you "break" some other channel (that you had a cool groove on for example) when messing with it. Changing things like Modifier on a channel which has logic can mess things up completely since Modifier also impacts on that channel's Logic behavior (which then change how the other channels triggers).

Not that useful in its current state tbh. You can always connect external Logic modules but it would be a wonderful addition to have on a module like this :)

edit:
Fun sometimes though, with lots of tweaking to get it right without messing something up

Very cool! Sounds like humans are playing base and drums!

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Post by bemushroomed » Sat Aug 22, 2020 1:04 am

yeah, a key thing is that pulse width length and swing can have a really big impact on how human it sounds, or just for changing the entire mood of a song or a beat. my old pam has 8 different outs with various swings and pulse width lengths etc that i can easily test between, it's quite handy.

I've come to the conclusion that it's best to leave like 1 channel for logic and not mess with it on several channels because it gets complicated very quickly haha.

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Post by markincork » Sat Aug 22, 2020 4:36 am

kobe wrote:
Mon Aug 10, 2020 11:39 am
ALM_Zach wrote:
Fri Jul 31, 2020 1:19 pm
Multiple people caught a mistake in our Pamela's PC Firmware Update video. When recording we forgot to change 'dfu-util' to match the 'dfu-util-static' binary file that is downloaded earlier in the video. Please make sure the file and name match! We have updated the video to point out the mistake and re-uploaded it to Youtube.

Our apologies for any confusion this may have caused. :doh:

Just updated to 206 and all stored programs are gone. Is that normal???
The upgrade does overwrite existing programs afaik

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Post by nickbaba » Wed Aug 26, 2020 5:37 pm

77 pages in so apologies if this has already been asked, but I'm using PNW with the DinSync expander to sync my Re303 via a Kenton DinSync cable.
Hitting start on PNW starts the RE303 no problem, and it runs in time, but when I stop and start again it won't reset to start of pattern - it just continues where it left off.
To reset I have to pull out the cable and replug it. Annoying. Then I swapped over to the MIDI clock output on the PNW expander (going to the MIDI input on the RE303) and this does start/stop/reset the sequencer as expected.
Is DinSync not designed to work this way? e.g. reset pattern to start? I can use the MIDI clock from PNW but I'd rather stay in the Dinsync realm, if poss. Timing is tighter.

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Post by nickbaba » Wed Aug 26, 2020 5:48 pm

After a bit more research it looks like dinsync should do start/stop/reset. Is this a PNW expander thing or maybe its my RE303 that won't respond to the reset message?

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Post by ALM » Thu Aug 27, 2020 4:23 am

nickbaba wrote:
Wed Aug 26, 2020 5:48 pm
After a bit more research it looks like dinsync should do start/stop/reset. Is this a PNW expander thing or maybe its my RE303 that won't respond to the reset message?
Expander just sends regular din sync messages (its super simple) - it sounds like something in how the RE303 is setup to respond to Din Sync stop/starts.

Also I wouldn't of thought if your going direct from Pam expander to the RE303 there'd be any real difference in 'tightness' between MIDI and DIN.

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