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Re: Announcing ALM017 - Pamela's NEW Workout

Post by deft_bonz » Mon Jul 20, 2020 5:24 am

No worries. I really was surprise, there wasn't one in my box. I mean I still have PS2 mouse/keyboard cables. SCSI is also flying around. I kinda keep all cables, at least one of them. But nooooooo Micro USB is no more :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Re: Announcing ALM017 - Pamela's NEW Workout

Post by deft_bonz » Mon Jul 20, 2020 7:42 am

ALM wrote:
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Just released 206 ! It just fixes the _|‾ rendering in 205!

http://busycircuits.com/firmware/alm017/

(Knew I should of done a wider beta release :waah: )
It's done, thanks for the update. The Quantizer function is the best addon for me.
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Post by ModusOp » Mon Jul 20, 2020 7:58 am

Can someone please tell me if the smooth random is AC or DC? I want to invert it outside of Pam’s but not sure if I need to offset it too.
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Post by loydb » Mon Jul 20, 2020 11:49 am

I've either got a bad unit, or I'm fundamentally misunderstanding something. I have channels 1-7 set to x1, and channel 8 set to x16. When I hit play, all the LEDs on the expander act as expected, but I'm getting no outputs on any of the main 8 CV outs.

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Re: Announcing ALM017 - Pamela's NEW Workout

Post by deft_bonz » Mon Jul 20, 2020 12:55 pm

loydb wrote:
Mon Jul 20, 2020 11:49 am
I've either got a bad unit, or I'm fundamentally misunderstanding something. I have channels 1-7 set to x1, and channel 8 set to x16. When I hit play, all the LEDs on the expander act as expected, but I'm getting no outputs on any of the main 8 CV outs.


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Is it muted? Or you can try to reset channel 8 first. That's what I do, when the channel doesn't do what I initially wanted. Especially when there is Rskip = 100% ;)

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Post by shaun » Mon Jul 20, 2020 1:54 pm

Looks like a column of led's in my display have died.

I noticed it as part of the first U in Output is cut off consistently on my unit.

Oddly enough, this didn't happen until after I updated to 206.

I'm hoping it's not the screen but since no one else is mentioning this, I just have to assume it's a coincidence and not firmware related, and that a column of pixels died.

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Post by Fidi » Mon Jul 20, 2020 4:39 pm

shaun wrote:
Mon Jul 20, 2020 1:54 pm
Looks like a column of led's in my display have died.

I noticed it as part of the first U in Output is cut off consistently on my unit.

Oddly enough, this didn't happen until after I updated to 206.

I'm hoping it's not the screen but since no one else is mentioning this, I just have to assume it's a coincidence and not firmware related, and that a column of pixels died.
If you hold down the encoder while powering on, there‘s a „OLED TEST-SCREEN“, might help you to narrow it down...

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Post by shaun » Mon Jul 20, 2020 8:07 pm

Fidi wrote:
Mon Jul 20, 2020 4:39 pm
If you hold down the encoder while powering on, there‘s a „OLED TEST-SCREEN“, might help you to narrow it down...
Thanks for the tip, looks like my screen is faulty.

That's disappointing, I got this brand new 3 months ago :eek:

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Post by loydb » Tue Jul 21, 2020 9:41 am

Update: My problem was firmware installed for the wrong PCB revision. Thanks to the FB hivemind for sorting me.

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Post by OHEXOH » Tue Jul 21, 2020 11:05 pm

Having an interesting oddity with the new OS. I have a channel set to set a pulse. The skip setting is set to 80% (so not likely to send a pulse out). if I play everything works as expected. However, if I set RUN to RESET ON TRIG then when it RESETS it always plays the same gate pattern. It's similar to how LOOP works in that you can lock in a set of values and probabilities to make things predictable... except LOOP is set to zero.

If I unplug the gate to RESET then it goes back to being 80% skip... I plug the gate back into RESET it goes back to the exact same pattern as before.

Is this correct or a sneaky gremlin?
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Post by ALM » Wed Jul 22, 2020 5:12 am

OHEXOH wrote:
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Is this correct or a sneaky gremlin?
I think its always worked like this... what firmware were you on previously and was behaviour different ?

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Post by Hazza26 » Wed Jul 22, 2020 6:20 am

OMG just found out about the Smooth Random addition.. I was mixing like 3 LFO outputs together for pseudo-random meanderings in my ambient patches, now I need only one! So pleased I held off on the Instruo øchd. This thing is an 8HP powerhouse.

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Hazza26 wrote:
Wed Jul 22, 2020 6:20 am
OMG just found out about the Smooth Random addition.. I was mixing like 3 LFO outputs together for pseudo-random meanderings in my ambient patches, now I need only one! So pleased I held off on the Instruo øchd. This thing is an 8HP powerhouse.
I must admit, that I use PNW mostly for time-based modulation. Less often as "mere" gate trigger module.

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Post by Hazza26 » Wed Jul 22, 2020 7:06 am

deft_bonz wrote:
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I must admit, that I use PNW mostly for time-based modulation. Less often as "mere" gate trigger module.
Yes me too so far. Should really delve into the rhythmic gate side more.

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ModusOp wrote:
Mon Jul 20, 2020 7:58 am
Can someone please tell me if the smooth random is AC or DC? I want to invert it outside of Pam’s but not sure if I need to offset it too.
Lost in the shuffle. Anyone?
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ModusOp wrote:
Wed Jul 22, 2020 8:04 am
ModusOp wrote:
Mon Jul 20, 2020 7:58 am
Can someone please tell me if the smooth random is AC or DC? I want to invert it outside of Pam’s but not sure if I need to offset it too.
Lost in the shuffle. Anyone?
90% sure it's AC as Pams only outputs 0v to +5V. But I may be missing something?

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deft_bonz wrote:
Wed Jul 22, 2020 6:42 am
Hazza26 wrote:
Wed Jul 22, 2020 6:20 am
OMG just found out about the Smooth Random addition.. I was mixing like 3 LFO outputs together for pseudo-random meanderings in my ambient patches, now I need only one! So pleased I held off on the Instruo øchd. This thing is an 8HP powerhouse.
I must admit, that I use PNW mostly for time-based modulation. Less often as "mere" gate trigger module.
Same, I love the ability to have eight channels of lazy time-related modulation. I know it does so many other cool things, but I feel almost as though I'd want to buy another before using those, so I could keep all that goodness. Synced and reset-linked to my sequencer, it's a joy.

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Post by deft_bonz » Wed Jul 22, 2020 8:21 am

And now all these possibilities with the Logic functions. I almost don't dare to start using them... modulation-rabbit-hole ;)

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Post by neumedi » Wed Jul 22, 2020 8:50 am

Hazza26 wrote:
Wed Jul 22, 2020 6:20 am
OMG just found out about the Smooth Random addition.. I was mixing like 3 LFO outputs together for pseudo-random meanderings in my ambient patches, now I need only one! So pleased I held off on the Instruo øchd. This thing is an 8HP powerhouse.
PNW is my go-to (I'm almost always exhausting all 8 outputs), but I still very much appreciate having øchd in my case as well. As easy as PNW is to configure, when I just need to grab a quick LFO (or several, that are sorta related), can't beat the immediacy of øchd. Having øchd and Clep Diaz around is fighting back my urge to get add a second PNW - for now. :hihi:

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Post by tdallas » Wed Jul 22, 2020 8:57 am

neumedi wrote:
Wed Jul 22, 2020 8:50 am
As easy as PNW is to configure, when I just need to grab a quick LFO (or several, that are sorta related), can't beat the immediacy of øchd.
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ronnieb wrote:
Wed Jul 22, 2020 8:11 am
ModusOp wrote:
Wed Jul 22, 2020 8:04 am
ModusOp wrote:
Mon Jul 20, 2020 7:58 am
Can someone please tell me if the smooth random is AC or DC? I want to invert it outside of Pam’s but not sure if I need to offset it too.
Lost in the shuffle. Anyone?
90% sure it's AC as Pams only outputs 0v to +5V. But I may be missing something?
Thanks, ronnieb. That’s what I was thinking too, but thought I’d double check before finalizing any plans. :D
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Post by OHEXOH » Wed Jul 22, 2020 3:54 pm

ALM wrote:
Wed Jul 22, 2020 5:12 am
OHEXOH wrote:
Tue Jul 21, 2020 11:05 pm
Is this correct or a sneaky gremlin?
I think its always worked like this... what firmware were you on previously and was behaviour different ?
I don't think I've ever used RUN to reset before - I've always used PAM & RUN Y with an external clock. I'm now using PAM as the clock source so out of all the options, using RUN as a RESET seems to be quite useful.

I'll try again with other channels to see if Skip seems to work as expected (ie: % random) or if it starts to predictively repeat itself when a RESET trig is received.
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Post by uniquepersonno2 » Wed Jul 22, 2020 4:04 pm

ModusOp wrote:
Wed Jul 22, 2020 9:00 am
ronnieb wrote:
Wed Jul 22, 2020 8:11 am
ModusOp wrote:
Wed Jul 22, 2020 8:04 am
ModusOp wrote:
Mon Jul 20, 2020 7:58 am
Can someone please tell me if the smooth random is AC or DC? I want to invert it outside of Pam’s but not sure if I need to offset it too.
Lost in the shuffle. Anyone?
90% sure it's AC as Pams only outputs 0v to +5V. But I may be missing something?
Thanks, ronnieb. That’s what I was thinking too, but thought I’d double check before finalizing any plans. :D
That would make it DC. DC vs AC has more to do with frequency of signals though.
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Re: Announcing ALM017 - Pamela's NEW Workout

Post by apfEID » Wed Jul 22, 2020 4:11 pm

ModusOp wrote:
Mon Jul 20, 2020 7:58 am
Can someone please tell me if the smooth random is AC or DC? I want to invert it outside of Pam’s but not sure if I need to offset it too.

AC vs DC is just a measure of how slowly a signal is changing. If it's able to stay above or below 0v for the duration required for an envelope or lfo, it's DC. AC means it's always moving.

Inputs/outputs that aren't DC coupled will drop any offset when the signal drops below a certain frequency. I don't remember the exact cut off but if you're using a signal that's slow enough for an LFO or a sequence (where it is effectively stationary during each step), those won't pass through, unless mixed into a moving AC signal as well, where it will manifest as "DC Offset" which you can see in a waveform, if for example you sum a DC 1v with a 40hz tone -2 to 2v tone, you'll see the 40hz tone is oscillating around 1v instead of 0 even if you recorded it with something that's only AC coupled. But if you stop the 40hz tone, the 1v will also disappear because it's DC and is filtered out. AC is basically high pass filtered somewhere under 20hz so you don't hear anything below the lowest bass you can hear as a tone.

so, Pam's is definitely outputting DC when slow envelopes are involved. But it's all unipolar from 0 up, so if you want bipolar movement you need to offset it and then probably scale as well.
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