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Re: XOR electronics NerdSEQ - eurorack tracker/sampler

Post by Granny » Sat Oct 16, 2021 3:36 pm

firestARTer wrote:
Thu Oct 14, 2021 12:21 am
mntbighker wrote:
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The dev should provide both his aggressively maintained manual and a quick guide. IMHO

Not that he isn't a hero already on dev work mind you.
He definitely should!
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Post by Granny » Mon Oct 18, 2021 7:41 am

:omg: ready to get dirty
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Post by firestARTer » Mon Oct 18, 2021 2:51 pm

Actually for those who asked: The Video Expander is in stock again!
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Post by firestARTer » Mon Oct 18, 2021 2:54 pm

And this happened meanwhile:
Firmware Release V1.25 with these changes and more:
Here are most of the changings / additions:
- integrated the More Video-IO Expander into the Firmware with Video and USB Computer keyboard support (and many more unofficial functions)
- added video mode setting in setup screen (OK to enter video settings)
- added endless repetitions of patterns when BRK repetition value is 255/0xff
- added velocity -> MOD output for midi clone to modular
- fixed missing/wrong probability from automators if sample tracks are set to something else
- fixed wave file loading issue for some wavefiles
- added octave change in wavefile preview
- added launch mode function. beside the regular launch possibilities there is now an additional synchronizing to queuepoints/zero cross launchmode (Setup -> Pattern Launch Type)
- fixed midi issue for velocity/mod recording on other tracks than 1
- changed Trigger All Off function (Trigger16 FX) to Extra Trigger FX which involves Trigger all Off and swap trigger commands from the FX
- implemented firmware update / file transfer for the video expander
- updated SETW command for samples so it would overrule samples or waveforms selected from the sample/wave column is used from the pattern FX
- added global swing function (project screen) for the internal clock (+- 1/64th precision). Be aware that the output clock is also affected by the swing.
- added clock change shortcut. If on the clock in settings with any external clock pressing shift+delete will switch seamless to internal clock.
- fixed delete marked values with shift up function for pattern screens
- added 'clock out disabled' function. So the Clock and Reset outputs can be used to generate own clocks or additional gates/triggers.
- fixed/finetuned live random values results
- added random ranges to the randomize functions in the Nerd Menu
- added midi notes and velocity to the randomize functions
- added SHIFT+DOWN+DELETE on sequencer screen to move a column one down (insert empty one).
- added Pattern Import/Export function (Nerd Menu in Pattern Screen)
- added CV/MOD Outputs as Automator Source
- speed up Load / Save Projects a bit
- midi recording adds now some quantization (pre/post correction)
- fixed wrong text in Sample Retrigger Command
- changed Table Chord Editing. SHIFT UP/DOWN change the note now and SHIFT LEFT/RIGHT the chord type
- removed round robin recording into a midi track from midi. Records now always from left to right into the columns.
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Post by mntbighker » Mon Oct 18, 2021 4:09 pm

The man doesn't sleep ;)

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Post by stashole » Mon Oct 18, 2021 9:56 pm

Best update yet, thank you.
I noticed while doing some manual reading that the trigger and cv expanders don't work on sample tracks?
Somehow I was able to assign the expanders to tracks 7 and 8 and thats how Ive been using them so far, without issues. Am I just lucky, or completely missing something here?

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Post by Liquidcolor » Mon Oct 18, 2021 10:23 pm

That was the Easter egg in the last version. That text should definitely be removed from the manual.

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Post by stashole » Tue Oct 19, 2021 12:33 am

Holy moly that is awesome.

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Post by firestARTer » Tue Oct 19, 2021 2:09 am

stashole wrote:
Mon Oct 18, 2021 9:56 pm
Best update yet, thank you.
I noticed while doing some manual reading that the trigger and cv expanders don't work on sample tracks?
Somehow I was able to assign the expanders to tracks 7 and 8 and thats how Ive been using them so far, without issues. Am I just lucky, or completely missing something here?
Oh I got to check the manual then. I thought I updated it for this already. But generally 7+8 can be used for expanders.
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Post by vidret » Tue Oct 19, 2021 5:39 am

mntbighker wrote:
Mon Oct 18, 2021 4:09 pm
The man doesn't sleep ;)
He is a tracker built and programmed to build and program trackers.

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Post by DJ Tap Water » Sun Oct 24, 2021 7:11 am

Is anyone using the nerdseq with a euro sampler? Some sequencers send out CV slightly after gate information, which can be a big problem for samplers (like when CVing slice selection)...

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Post by firestARTer » Sun Oct 24, 2021 7:32 am

DJ Tap Water wrote:
Sun Oct 24, 2021 7:11 am
Is anyone using the nerdseq with a euro sampler? Some sequencers send out CV slightly after gate information, which can be a big problem for samplers (like when CVing slice selection)...
Yes and don’t worry about that. You can adjust exactly the CV vs Gate time in the NerdSEQ to be sure your CV is valid when the gate comes.
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Post by DJ Tap Water » Sun Oct 24, 2021 7:54 am

firestARTer wrote:
Sun Oct 24, 2021 7:32 am
DJ Tap Water wrote:
Sun Oct 24, 2021 7:11 am
Is anyone using the nerdseq with a euro sampler? Some sequencers send out CV slightly after gate information, which can be a big problem for samplers (like when CVing slice selection)...
Yes and don’t worry about that. You can adjust exactly the CV vs Gate time in the NerdSEQ to be sure your CV is valid when the gate comes.
Amazing!

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Post by mntbighker » Sun Oct 24, 2021 3:53 pm

If there is a firmware update to the expanders (1.1 now I think), will that be on the website or somehow embedded in the main firmware download. The manual does't seem to indicate.

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Post by firestARTer » Tue Oct 26, 2021 3:20 am

mntbighker wrote:
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If there is a firmware update to the expanders (1.1 now I think), will that be on the website or somehow embedded in the main firmware download. The manual does't seem to indicate.
There is no real Firmware update so far. There was one for the CV16 expander for only a very few people of one batch but it only fixed a problem which only happened to them.

If there is an official firmware update for the expander which affects everyone then I will add it both on the website and a note in the manual. It can't be embedded into the NerdSEQ firmware though.
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Post by DJ Tap Water » Thu Oct 28, 2021 1:40 am

Does it have conditional trigs?

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Post by vidret » Fri Oct 29, 2021 6:33 am

DJ Tap Water wrote:
Thu Oct 28, 2021 1:40 am
Does it have conditional trigs?
As of writing this, I think no.

Might exist now though.

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Post by Dusty Patches » Fri Oct 29, 2021 10:11 am

You can set up random note trigs, and set the range for multiple channels of random note trigging, but Elektron style conditional trigs aren’t in it thus far.

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Post by geremyf » Fri Oct 29, 2021 12:42 pm

Yeah, it is different. You can set:

The probability of any trigger event on a pattern step (row)
A range of randomness on the trigger/gate length and the number of ratchets on a pattern step.
A range of randomness on any note/cv value, and the probability of the note being 'played' on a pattern step.

So it doesn't give you the specific conditions provided by Elektron.

However, it does get a whole lot more complex, because you assign probabilities to your probabilities, as you have mutliple step-FX columns to play with. Additionally, you can add/sub/mul/div to any probability value on other steps (for instance you set a probability to 5%, and keep adding 5% everytime the pattern is played). With this flexibility you can likely imitate most of Elektron's conditions.

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Post by firestARTer » Fri Oct 29, 2021 1:00 pm

You could also use a table to create triggers that for example only play every 2nd time or so.
I don’t know exactly how conditional triggers work with the elektron boxes, but I guess it is something like this.
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Post by mntbighker » Fri Oct 29, 2021 1:28 pm

You guys are giving me a headache ;)

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Post by DJ Tap Water » Sat Oct 30, 2021 11:56 am

firestARTer wrote:
Fri Oct 29, 2021 1:00 pm
You could also use a table to create triggers that for example only play every 2nd time or so.
I don’t know exactly how conditional triggers work with the elektron boxes, but I guess it is something like this.
Your assumption is correct. Conditional trigs such as "play every other pass" or "play every 4 passes" etc are very powerful sequencing options which are made convenient to implement in the Elektron workflow. They are one of my favourite things about those boxes. It might be worth considering making these types of conditions for triggering available as FX.

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Post by Ushijima » Sat Oct 30, 2021 11:58 am

That feature would be awesome indeed, it would creates so many variations on basics sequences coupled with all others available features such as modulations and tables.

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Post by firestARTer » Sat Oct 30, 2021 1:07 pm

DJ Tap Water wrote:
Sat Oct 30, 2021 11:56 am
firestARTer wrote:
Fri Oct 29, 2021 1:00 pm
You could also use a table to create triggers that for example only play every 2nd time or so.
I don’t know exactly how conditional triggers work with the elektron boxes, but I guess it is something like this.
Your assumption is correct. Conditional trigs such as "play every other pass" or "play every 4 passes" etc are very powerful sequencing options which are made convenient to implement in the Elektron workflow. They are one of my favourite things about those boxes. It might be worth considering making these types of conditions for triggering available as FX.
It is simply impossible as there is not enough memory available for it. It would need for every step in every pattern (and probably every FX) some kind of a counter and a condition type (I assume they are different conditions needed).
However they are multiple possibilities to arrive similar functions.

Also beside that, I usually don't copy functions from other seqeuncers. It would be boring if all of them would do exactly the same things :mrgreen:
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Post by liquid_bard » Sat Oct 30, 2021 2:07 pm

Wait, I'm confused.. geremyf seems to say these things are in nerdseq.. or is he talking about elektron? I just today stared at my rack trying to figure out if I could somehow patch up a ~10% trigger that, if it fired, would increase the likelyhood of itself triggering on the next step (and then drop to 10% again after next firing). My best go so far includes multing to a sequential switch and some offsets that control pam's probability, but my main issue is that the use I was aiming for was precisely to control the switch, so I'd need another switch just to... anway, if this is built into nerdseq (and someone mentioned the possibility of a programming language?), that'll just move it.. well, honestly, it moves it from a sure buy already to still a sure buy, but.. well :)

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