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wolfganggold wrote: ↑Thu Jan 12, 2023 2:57 pm
...that I can take the CV out from my Behringer System 100 182 Sequencer and patch it into the CV in of my Erica Synths Black LP VCF and sequence the opening/closing of the filter! Maybe a "duh" moment for some but it was like an epiphany for me because I'm still wrapping my head around all this CV mumbo jumbo
Yes, sequence *everything* — including sequencers. If your VCF has a Resonance CV in, you can sequence that while pinging the filter to get it to ring (or dampen/mute) at variable levels.
wolfganggold wrote: ↑Thu Jan 12, 2023 2:57 pm
...that I can take the CV out from my Behringer System 100 182 Sequencer and patch it into the CV in of my Erica Synths Black LP VCF and sequence the opening/closing of the filter! Maybe a "duh" moment for some but it was like an epiphany for me because I'm still wrapping my head around all this CV mumbo jumbo
Yes, sequence *everything* — including sequencers. If your VCF has a Resonance CV in, you can sequence that while pinging the filter to get it to ring (or dampen/mute) at variable levels.
Welcome!
It does indeed have Resonance CV in and I was messing with that last night So cool!
wolfganggold wrote: ↑Thu Jan 12, 2023 2:57 pm
...that I can take the CV out from my Behringer System 100 182 Sequencer and patch it into the CV in of my Erica Synths Black LP VCF and sequence the opening/closing of the filter! Maybe a "duh" moment for some but it was like an epiphany for me because I'm still wrapping my head around all this CV mumbo jumbo
this is great fun, beyond that try plugging anything that sends a cv (or even audio) into anything that receives it, oscillators into cutoff, lfo into mode selection, etc... this flexibility is where modular excels and i need to remind myself sometimes to get out of my usual habits and make some random connections
if it doesn't involve sonics, my interest in any module is in the 0% ballpark
wolfganggold wrote: ↑Thu Jan 12, 2023 2:57 pm
...that I can take the CV out from my Behringer System 100 182 Sequencer and patch it into the CV in of my Erica Synths Black LP VCF and sequence the opening/closing of the filter! Maybe a "duh" moment for some but it was like an epiphany for me because I'm still wrapping my head around all this CV mumbo jumbo
this is great fun, beyond that try plugging anything that sends a cv (or even audio) into anything that receives it, oscillators into cutoff, lfo into mode selection, etc... this flexibility is where modular excels and i need to remind myself sometimes to get out of my usual habits and make some random connections
My Rackbrute has about 65HP left to fill and I plan on getting a quad VCA, a MIDI to CV converter (to better utilize my Keystep 37) and probably something like Maths and another oscillator to supplement my Behringer Brains. My GAS knows no bounds!!
I've got an AJH minimod system that I built over time and tl;dr I got the V-Scale before Glide & Noise, so I have both racked up even though the G&N feeds the AJH oscillators v/oct over the busboard which obviates the V-Scale. I've been making good use of the the V-Scale as a buffered mult for the pitch CV coming out of the G&N but it never occurred to me that I can offset the individual outs with the trimmers to dial in sweet spots after I've got things patched up. In my head it seemed silly to get them "off center" but then I realized that I'm not using any of these copies to actually carry pitch so why be so protective.
ATW wrote: ↑Thu Jan 12, 2023 11:19 pm
Yes, sequence *everything* — including sequencers.
Quis sequenciet ipsos sequencers?
PNW in Euclidean mode with random gate dropping! Or Flux! Anything with triggers or gates out, basically. viewtopic.php?t=268689
Yes! I love relatively simple sequencers that don't try to work out tempo, but instead wait for an incoming pulse to move onto the next step. You can create utter havoc with them and it's a joy.
ATW wrote: ↑Thu Jan 12, 2023 11:19 pm
Yes, sequence *everything* — including sequencers.
Quis sequenciet ipsos sequencers?
PNW in Euclidean mode with random gate dropping! Or Flux! Anything with triggers or gates out, basically. viewtopic.php?t=268689
Yes! I love relatively simple sequencers that don't try to work out tempo, but instead wait for an incoming pulse to move onto the next step. You can create utter havoc with them and it's a joy.
Agreed, fun to get two sequencers locking horns and making a ruckus. Sq-1 and 0-Ctrl have in a sequencer clock feedback loop can get interesting. Any analog sequencer really!
ATW wrote: ↑Sun Jan 15, 2023 11:02 pm
Agreed, fun to get two sequencers locking horns and making a ruckus. Sq-1 and 0-Ctrl have in a sequencer clock feedback loop can get interesting. Any analog sequencer really!
Euclidean drum channel from my FH-2 into Marbles etc.
Yes, that's absolutely when I remember why modular is fun- when you can do weird things with derived clocks generally. Suddenly everything is... moving, literally to its own beat. The first time I took the main clock into Pam's and made a set of /2 /4 /8 /16 speed LFOs that I could send to other destinations, it was like opening a whole new toybox. Maybe I'm easily amused.
Today I learned if you use passive mults for clock and want to patch live, if you always patch destination to source you wont short the clock and drop a beat.
Kattefjaes wrote: ↑Sun Jan 15, 2023 5:34 pm
Yes! I love relatively simple sequencers that don't try to work out tempo, but instead wait for an incoming pulse to move onto the next step. You can create utter havoc with them and it's a joy.
Agreed, fun to get two sequencers locking horns and making a ruckus. Sq-1 and 0-Ctrl have in a sequencer clock feedback loop can get interesting. Any analog sequencer really!
Yeah! I was thinking of buying a Transient 8s for simple, analog, wreak-havoc sequencing duties. But then a Klee became available. Never heard of it. I guess you could call it my little thing I learned yesterday. Looked it up. Read the starter's guide (51 pages!) cover to cover in half a day. Bought it. That, with everything described above, is going to be havoc next leven
Can't believe I didn't try this one before: use a square wave LFO for clock, and invert it (aka NOT) to get syncopated upbeats. With a bit of pulse width adjustment it can swing.
You can also invert a clock square via a XOR when the 2nd input is high. If that 2nd input is driven by S&H that is also clocked by the main clock, you can generate up / down patterns.
Or, to switch between down and upbeat, send the LFO square clock through a XOR (ring mod) instead, with the other XOR input (clock synced via S&H) selecting between up & down.
grrrwaaa wrote: ↑Wed Jan 25, 2023 10:15 pm
Can't believe I didn't try this one before: use a square wave LFO for clock, and invert it (aka NOT) to get syncopated upbeats. With a bit of pulse width adjustment it can swing.
If you have a CV Quantizer that has a trigger output that fires each time the output of the Quantizer Puts out a new voltage you can plug your clock LFO into the CV input of the Quantizer. Now you have a times two clock multiplication from the Quantizer's trigger out with adjustable swing via the pulsewidth of the incoming LFO.
Also filters can also be pinged with the falling edge of a gate signal. So an LFO with wariable pulsewidth can give you swinging pings.
FX Aid has clocked modes where you have to send clock into the right input. If the balance isn't 100% wet, the module will also pass through this clock to the output, which results in clicks. I managed to minimize this clicking noise by setting the clock in PNW to a triangle wave. Clocking with a triangle wave also works perfectly well with other modules, e.g. Electus Versio. It's a matter of rising edge detection and I guess it works fine with an edge that rises a bit slower!
fosferus wrote: ↑Tue Jan 03, 2023 3:29 pm
riffing further on dry/wet filter settings, crossposting this from elsewhere. its so obvious now, but i've never tried it - add voltage controlled resonance to a filter with no CV over resonance:
KSS wrote: ↑Thu Dec 29, 2022 12:20 pm
The answer then is to patch a VCA between the filter output and its input. Some filter types need an inversion in this feedback and some don't. That's one reason to be sure you always have at least one VCA with differential inputs like the B902 or the TTSH-2600's 4019. You can also use an attenuator or inverting channel of a mixer or utility.
VC Q is the control input of the added VCA.
Good shout! And well worth a try with filters that don’t self-oscillate like the Doepfer Wasp.
The Wasp self-oscillates if you connect the bandpass out to ground. If you still want the bandpass output available for use, a virtual ground will work as well, although it will invert the output signal.
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Tryin' to figure which is worse:
How much do I need this gold?
And how much do I need this curse?”—Shel Silverstein
The Wasp self-oscillates if you connect the bandpass out to ground. If you still want the bandpass output available for use, a virtual ground will work as well, although it will invert the output signal.
What do you mean by "virtual ground" in this case?
fosferus wrote: ↑Tue Jan 03, 2023 3:29 pm
riffing further on dry/wet filter settings, crossposting this from elsewhere. its so obvious now, but i've never tried it - add voltage controlled resonance to a filter with no CV over resonance:
KSS wrote: ↑Thu Dec 29, 2022 12:20 pm
The answer then is to patch a VCA between the filter output and its input. Some filter types need an inversion in this feedback and some don't. That's one reason to be sure you always have at least one VCA with differential inputs like the B902 or the TTSH-2600's 4019. You can also use an attenuator or inverting channel of a mixer or utility.
VC Q is the control input of the added VCA.
Good shout! And well worth a try with filters that don’t self-oscillate like the Doepfer Wasp.
The Wasp self-oscillates if you connect the bandpass out to ground. If you still want the bandpass output available for use, a virtual ground will work as well, although it will invert the output signal.
Ah I see this describes a couple ways to mod the Wasp for self-oscillation, is this what you're referring to?
So for ages I had been mucking around with my Intellijel Quadrax and Quad VCA trying to get it to behave the way I thought it should be behave. Scratching my head as to why it was so labour some to get an envelope to module a sound in the fairly simple way I wanted it to.
Turns out I had the Quadrax outputting +10V with the Quad VCA expecting +5V to attenuate the VCA. Explains why I could never get the envelope to action on the sound in the way I wanted it to.
Entering startup on the Quadrax I changed the output to +5V and it now all works in the way I expect.
ATW wrote: ↑Thu Jan 12, 2023 11:19 pm
Yes, sequence *everything* — including sequencers. If your VCF has a Resonance CV in, you can sequence that while pinging the filter to get it to ring (or dampen/mute) at variable levels.
Sometimes... resist sequencing/syncing things too! Modules like Ochd which meander along adding life to their own schedule can be incredibly refreshing too. It's nice to have options.
A Huge Growing Brain wrote: ↑Fri Jan 27, 2023 8:31 am
So for ages I had been mucking around with my Intellijel Quadrax and Quad VCA trying to get it to behave the way I thought it should be behave. Scratching my head as to why it was so labour some to get an envelope to module a sound in the fairly simple way I wanted it to.
Turns out I had the Quadrax outputting +10V with the Quad VCA expecting +5V to attenuate the VCA. Explains why I could never get the envelope to action on the sound in the way I wanted it to.
Entering startup on the Quadrax I changed the output to +5V and it now all works in the way I expect.
Pretty fundamental!
Thus is useful as I own both. I've been compiling a list of voltage ranges for all my modules for this reason although it's been a slow process cause I haven't just sat down and gone through every manual. But this reminded me to add these modules to my list.
A Huge Growing Brain wrote: ↑Fri Jan 27, 2023 8:31 am
So for ages I had been mucking around with my Intellijel Quadrax and Quad VCA trying to get it to behave the way I thought it should be behave. Scratching my head as to why it was so labour some to get an envelope to module a sound in the fairly simple way I wanted it to.
Turns out I had the Quadrax outputting +10V with the Quad VCA expecting +5V to attenuate the VCA. Explains why I could never get the envelope to action on the sound in the way I wanted it to.
Entering startup on the Quadrax I changed the output to +5V and it now all works in the way I expect.
Pretty fundamental!
Thus is useful as I own both. I've been compiling a list of voltage ranges for all my modules for this reason although it's been a slow process cause I haven't just sat down and gone through every manual. But this reminded me to add these modules to my list.
It’s made a massive difference: either amp envelopes were far too snappy or it was creating distortion. Wish I had known this a year ago!
