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Post by Sanys » Sat Aug 31, 2019 6:12 pm

anyone thought of Verbos Multi-Delay Processor as a substitute

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Post by jmax313 » Sat Aug 31, 2019 10:15 pm

I thought someone mentioned that the last preset loads on start, but my rainmaker (has 1.09/142) does not do this, always starts at preset 1. :help:

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Post by depaffect » Sun Sep 01, 2019 4:06 am

you need the beta firmware for that

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Post by jmax313 » Sun Sep 01, 2019 12:03 pm

I thought 1.09/142 is? Mine has it loaded

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Post by damase » Sun Sep 01, 2019 12:39 pm

Sanys wrote:anyone thought of Verbos Multi-Delay Processor as a substitute
ive owned both at the same time
they are so far different... in sound, usage, interface, range, and results

fwiw i still own rainmaker, not the multidelay. i loved everything about the multidelay except it maxes out at 10ms fastest delay time which just wasnt fast enough for what i wanted to do with it. rainmaker never had a chance of leaving, although that ill say its much less “modular” than the multidelay, and is more of a self contained instrument imo

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Post by Sanys » Sun Sep 01, 2019 4:50 pm

thx, this is what i wanted to hear

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Post by depaffect » Sun Sep 01, 2019 6:26 pm

jmax313 wrote:I thought 1.09/142 is? Mine has it loaded
oh yes sorry, that is the beta firmware, it is meant to load up last preset used!

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Post by peachesandbacon » Sun Sep 01, 2019 11:05 pm

This looks glorious!

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Post by jmax313 » Mon Sep 02, 2019 8:53 am

depaffect wrote:
jmax313 wrote:I thought 1.09/142 is? Mine has it loaded
oh yes sorry, that is the beta firmware, it is meant to load up last preset used!
Mine doesn't!

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Post by depaffect » Sat Sep 21, 2019 12:56 am

jmax313 wrote:
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jmax313 wrote:I thought 1.09/142 is? Mine has it loaded
oh yes sorry, that is the beta firmware, it is meant to load up last preset used!
Mine doesn't!
Updated mine to the beta firmware (on mac so it was a fairly hideous process)

However it does load up the last preset used on power up!

Strange that yours does not... you updated the FPGA too?

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Post by slowwild » Fri Nov 15, 2019 1:45 pm

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Post by evileye0702 » Fri Nov 15, 2019 4:48 pm

slowwild wrote:Official release 1.09/143

Details: https://forum.intellijel.com/t/rainmaker-1-09-143/2044
"CHANGE: The preset load/save so now the last preset to be saved or loaded is loaded on power up"

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Post by Misk » Fri Nov 15, 2019 5:03 pm

woohoo! :party:

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Post by a773 » Fri Nov 29, 2019 7:10 am

Just got a rainmaker brand new bought at schneiders. It doesn't have the latest firmware which sucks since 1) I specifically asked schneiders if it would come with latest firmware and they (although vaguely) confirmed, 2) I run linux, I'm worse than your grandmother when confronted with a windows computer and 3) I really, really need all my modules to boot up in the same state as when powered down (only available in latest firmware). Sigh.

I'm overwhelmed by the update procedure, so a couple of questions:

1) will I be able to update on my works windows 10 laptop?
2) exactly which files should I download and run?
3) is there a step-by-step instruction that is up-to-date and easy to follow?

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Post by lohacker » Fri Nov 29, 2019 7:27 am

atte wrote:Just got a rainmaker brand new bought at schneiders. It doesn't have the latest firmware which sucks since 1) I specifically asked schneiders if it would come with latest firmware and they (although vaguely) confirmed, 2) I run linux, I'm worse than your grandmother when confronted with a windows computer and 3) I really, really need all my modules to boot up in the same state as when powered down (only available in latest firmware). Sigh.

I'm overwhelmed by the update procedure, so a couple of questions:

1) will I be able to update on my works windows 10 laptop?
2) exactly which files should I download and run?
3) is there a step-by-step instruction that is up-to-date and easy to follow?
I've recently updated mine with W10 smoothly. It's not that hard, just follow the steps in this video:



You'll need:
1) Quartus programmer 32 or 64 bit: https://intellijel.com/support/fpga/
2) Latest firmware: https://intellijel.com/downloads/firmwa ... 43.jic.zip
3) Display updater: https://intellijel.com/downloads/firmwa ... -11-18.zip

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Post by slowwild » Fri Nov 29, 2019 12:06 pm

atte wrote:Just got a rainmaker brand new bought at schneiders. It doesn't have the latest firmware which sucks since 1) I specifically asked schneiders if it would come with latest firmware and they (although vaguely) confirmed, 2) I run linux, I'm worse than your grandmother when confronted with a windows computer and 3) I really, really need all my modules to boot up in the same state as when powered down (only available in latest firmware). Sigh.

I'm overwhelmed by the update procedure, so a couple of questions:

1) will I be able to update on my works windows 10 laptop?
2) exactly which files should I download and run?
3) is there a step-by-step instruction that is up-to-date and easy to follow?
1) Yes
2) https://intellijel.com/support/ — Download the FPGA "JIC" file (143) and the Intellijel Firmware Updater (1.09 for the display)
3) Here's a walk through for the FPGA, and a download link for the FPGA Programmer: https://intellijel.com/support/fpga/

It's a bit cumbersome, but was the only way to integrate FPGA when the module was designed.
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Post by a773 » Fri Nov 29, 2019 4:59 pm

Thanks. It turns out I don't have permissions to install anything on my work pc, all my computer knowledgeable friends run Linux as me. I just posted this on the Intellijel forum, but relay it here in desperation:
https://forum.intellijel.com/t/updating ... ow-to/2092
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I don’t have access to a windows (or mac) computer, I’m running linux (64bit). I stumpled across this old post on muffs which discusses updating the rainmaker from a linux computer:
viewtopic.php?p=2662530&highlight=#2662530

Seems simple, involves running two commands (obviously with newer firmware files):
dfu-util -v -a 0 --dfuse-address 0x08000000 -D rainmaker_1.07.bin
quartus_pgmw Rainmaker\ v1.09.jic

dfu-utils I’ve used before, can’t seem to find the new .bin file however. Also while I’ve downloaded rainmaker_v143.jic, I have a hard time finding a download containing the quartus_pgmw, looked around on Intels web site, even made an account, but I’m quite lost frankly.

So:
1) Is updating the rainmaker possible under linux?
2) Where do I find the .bin firmware for the display?
3) Could you point me in the direction of the Intel software for the FPGA?

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Post by SavageMessiah » Fri Nov 29, 2019 7:51 pm

Just install windows in a vm, the same as everyone on mac does :despair:

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Post by Risc_Terilia » Sat Nov 30, 2019 1:32 am

SavageMessiah wrote:Just install windows in a vm, the same as everyone on mac does :despair:
Yeah or perhaps it's possible to use Wine to do this?

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Post by a773 » Sat Nov 30, 2019 2:09 am

Update: I found the “Quartus Prime Pro Edition Programmer and Tools” here: http://fpgasoftware.intel.com/?product= ... mer#tabs-4

Downloaded and installed it, now I have quartus_pgmw (in exchange of 3.1GB of disc space :open_mouth:), should I be good to go with the FPGA?

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Post by jjclark » Sat Nov 30, 2019 1:02 pm

Hi, I haven't tried it myself, but you should definitely be able to update the FPGA using the Linux tools. The Linux version of the Quartus tools are just as capable as the Windows versions.

Terasic (the maker of the FPGA boards) has some info on this:
http://www.terasic.com.tw/wiki/Chapter_ ... Programmer

That page mentions version 16 of Quartus.
You might as well go for the most recent version (currently 19.1) of the "Lite" version of Quartus Prime. Go to the download page and choose version 19.1 and Lite. Then click on the "Additional Software" tab. There are only two items, download the one named "Quartus Prime Programmer and Tools". Like I said, I haven't tried this myself, but knowing unix installs you might have to play around to get the usbblaster driver to work.

atte wrote:Thanks. It turns out I don't have permissions to install anything on my work pc, all my computer knowledgeable friends run Linux as me. I just posted this on the Intellijel forum, but relay it here in desperation:
https://forum.intellijel.com/t/updating ... ow-to/2092
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I don’t have access to a windows (or mac) computer, I’m running linux (64bit). I stumpled across this old post on muffs which discusses updating the rainmaker from a linux computer:
viewtopic.php?p=2662530&highlight=#2662530

Seems simple, involves running two commands (obviously with newer firmware files):
dfu-util -v -a 0 --dfuse-address 0x08000000 -D rainmaker_1.07.bin
quartus_pgmw Rainmaker\ v1.09.jic

dfu-utils I’ve used before, can’t seem to find the new .bin file however. Also while I’ve downloaded rainmaker_v143.jic, I have a hard time finding a download containing the quartus_pgmw, looked around on Intels web site, even made an account, but I’m quite lost frankly.

So:
1) Is updating the rainmaker possible under linux?
2) Where do I find the .bin firmware for the display?
3) Could you point me in the direction of the Intel software for the FPGA?

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Post by jjclark » Sat Nov 30, 2019 1:04 pm

atte wrote:Update: I found the “Quartus Prime Pro Edition Programmer and Tools” here: http://fpgasoftware.intel.com/?product= ... mer#tabs-4

Downloaded and installed it, now I have quartus_pgmw (in exchange of 3.1GB of disc space :open_mouth:), should I be good to go with the FPGA?
You should use the "Lite" version, not the "Pro" version. It is a smaller package, and you won't have to pay to use it.

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Post by a773 » Sun Dec 01, 2019 3:55 am

Thanks! I got it working,

For future reference here’s what I did:

Before you start, setup udev, by adding the following to a new file /etc/udev/rules.d/51-rainmaker.rules

# Maybe these first two lines are enough...
SUBSYSTEM=="usb", ATTR{idVendor}=="09fb", ATTR{idProduct}=="6001", MODE="0666"
SUBSYSTEM=="usb", ATTR{idVendor}=="0483", ATTR{idProduct}=="df11", MODE="0666"
# Intel FPGA Download Cable
SUBSYSTEM=="usb", ATTR{idVendor}=="09fb", ATTR{idProduct}=="6001", MODE="0666"
SUBSYSTEM=="usb", ATTR{idVendor}=="09fb", ATTR{idProduct}=="6002", MODE="0666"
SUBSYSTEM=="usb", ATTR{idVendor}=="09fb", ATTR{idProduct}=="6003", MODE="0666"
# Intel FPGA Download Cable II
SUBSYSTEM=="usb", ATTR{idVendor}=="09fb", ATTR{idProduct}=="6010", MODE="0666"
SUBSYSTEM=="usb", ATTR{idVendor}=="09fb", ATTR{idProduct}=="6810", MODE="0666"

FPGA:
NB; Don’t power the rainmaker from eurorack for this, it will be powered from the computer via USB!

1) Download and install quartus programmer (about 450 MB download):
http://fpgasoftware.intel.com/19.1/?edi ... nux#tabs-4

2) Connect the rainmaker to computer with mini usb, Check the connection with
quartus_pgm --auto
This threw me off a bit, since all text were green and it seemed to recognize the USB Blaster, but gave an error:
Unable to read device chain - JTAG chain broken
Seems the programmer is out of sync with current distributions, so you need to do:
sudo ln -s /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libudev.so.1 /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libudev.so.0

3) Send the firmware:
quartus_pgm -m jtag -o "pi;rainmaker_v143.jic"

Display:
NB: The rainmaker will be powered from the eurorack for this…

1) Push tiny button along the edge under the display, while powering on (needs power from the eurorack case, unlike the FPGA), screen will stay black, other LEDS should light up.

2) You need to pull the .bin firmware file from the mac updater from intellijel

3) Send the firmware:
dfu-util -v -a 0 --dfuse-address 0x08000000 -D rainmaker_1.09.bin

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Post by SavageMessiah » Sun Dec 01, 2019 10:33 pm

Huh, if the linux tools work it would probably be pretty straightforward to make an image for virtualbox or qemu that has a simple script to do the update. That would save a lot of grief for less technically inclined users. Not sure if there's still enough pending updates for ss/rainmaker to make it worth intellijel's time though.

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Post by a773 » Mon Dec 02, 2019 3:36 am

Although a nice idea, I can think of two problems:

1) The proprietary nature of the FPGA. I don't think bundling the tools (quartus_pgm + eventually needed software) in a virtualbox image is legal, but I could be wrong. Ok, a workaround could be to not include the software in the image, but download it as part of the update script, but only intel decides if the download location is fixed, if it changes it would break the update script.

2) Managing the access to the FPGA and screen on the host os level (windows or mac) is still a (potential non-trivial) responsibility of the user. From that point on, all the access-granting/correct-sharing of those devices between the guest and host might be possible to "write into" the virtualbox image, not sure.

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